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Re: Post deadline roster outlook 

Post#21 » by cocktailswith_2short » Fri Feb 7, 2025 2:23 am

We won't win more than 10 games the rest of the season .
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Post#22 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Fri Feb 7, 2025 2:25 am

I was listening to the CHGO podcast and they had Crowley as a guest. Now we all know how cynical Crowley can be, but he actually said that he was going to be patient to see what they do over the summer. The idea was that AKME had some kind of inside info that the summer would be much better to move these guys. And by "much better", I mean they would be able to trade them for better assets.

They still plan on blowing it up, but this wasn't the opportune time. In the summer teams will better understand the cap situation and their rosters, and be more reticent to make deals. This info came from some inside sources that Crowley thought were solid.

In my mind, I was obviously reluctant to believe this. It sounded more like KC. Crowley's main point was that this is AKME's last chance to put his words to action. If he doesn't make major changes this Summer, then he can't be trusted (as if that hasn't been proven already). I was just shocked that it came out of Crowley's mouth.
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Post#23 » by mikejames23 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 2:57 am

Lonzo - good defender, PG skills
Coby White - More like a hustle guard type, but not a star like Chi makes him out to be.
Matas - an intriguing prospect, should do well.
Vooch - 35 year old Center, we need to trade him next offseason.
Pat Williams - won't pan out, borderline starter.
Giddey - good starter and leadership. Australia's guy. Ok, I think I like him so far.
Ayo - good young guy, solid player, could turn into something.

Then there's the rest... Heurt, Zach, Jalen...

Eh, I don't like it. We desperately need a young star. Or I believe we're gunning for Giannis mega contract.
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Re: Post deadline roster outlook 

Post#24 » by Muzbar » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:06 am

ThisGuyFawkes wrote:I was listening to the CHGO podcast and they had Crowley as a guest. Now we all know how cynical Crowley can be, but he actually said that he was going to be patient to see what they do over the summer. The idea was that AKME had some kind of inside info that the summer would be much better to move these guys. And by "much better", I mean they would be able to trade them for better assets.

They still plan on blowing it up, but this wasn't the opportune time. In the summer teams will better understand the cap situation and their rosters, and be more reticent to make deals. This info came from some inside sources that Crowley thought were solid.

In my mind, I was obviously reluctant to believe this. It sounded more like KC. Crowley's main point was that this is AKME's last chance to put his words to action. If he doesn't make major changes this Summer, then he can't be trusted (as if that hasn't been proven already). I was just shocked that it came out of Crowley's mouth.

People like to **** on Crowley because he's not an optimistic Bulls mouth piece, and shares negative news. He has sources and has been right in the past.

It's great that he's willing to wait until the offseason to evaluate AKME, but I'm done, I was patient with him in the beginning and I gave him a bunch of leash.

I can't anymore, I have serious doubts that they will blow it up, SERIOUS DOUBTS. AK even said they'll try and make the playoffs this season, if they were serious about rebuilding, you wouldn't be aiming for the playoffs.

Side note: What does Marc Eversley even do? Whenever there's a transactional period you never hear from him, it's always AK.
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Re: Post deadline roster outlook 

Post#25 » by nitetrain8603 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:09 am

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Re: Post deadline roster outlook 

Post#26 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:13 am

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Re: Post deadline roster outlook 

Post#27 » by MisterRoy » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:14 am

If Billy is smart, Matas and Collins are PFs. Pat needs to come off the bench as a 3. No reason to do.anything else.
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Post#28 » by sco » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:19 am

MisterRoy wrote:If Billy is smart, Matas and Collins are PFs. Pat needs to come off the bench as a 3. No reason to do.anything else.

As far as I'm concerned, Pat can just not come off the bench. Same for Terry, THT, Carter and Vuc for the rest of the season. We know what we have there and it's nothing special. Let's use the rest of the season wisely and look for go-forward useful line-ups.
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Post#29 » by Muzbar » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:36 am

From here on out, starting line-up should be:

Vuc/Buzelis/Giddey/Coby/Ayo

Vuc only because he'll never get benched, otherwise I'd like to see Smith get the nod but it'll never happen.

Keep Lonzo on the bench, let him lead the second unit.
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Re: Post deadline roster outlook 

Post#30 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:14 am

MisterRoy wrote:If Billy is smart, Matas and Collins are PFs. Pat needs to come off the bench as a 3. No reason to do.anything else.


According to the Cowley interview I heard, Billy has been given the mandate to play the young guys. We'll see if that's factual.
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Re: Post deadline roster outlook 

Post#31 » by Bulliever2020 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:09 am

ThisGuyFawkes wrote:
MisterRoy wrote:If Billy is smart, Matas and Collins are PFs. Pat needs to come off the bench as a 3. No reason to do.anything else.


According to the Cowley interview I heard, Billy has been given the mandate to play the young guys. We'll see if that's factual.


Billy is a puppet for the AKME regime. Only reason he has lasted this long. This organization is such a joke.
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Re: Post deadline roster outlook 

Post#32 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:14 am

Bulliever2020 wrote:
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MisterRoy wrote:If Billy is smart, Matas and Collins are PFs. Pat needs to come off the bench as a 3. No reason to do.anything else.


According to the Cowley interview I heard, Billy has been given the mandate to play the young guys. We'll see if that's factual.


Billy is a puppet for the AKME regime. Only reason he has lasted this long. This organization is such a joke.


Sooo... are you for or against playing the young guys?
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Re: Post deadline roster outlook 

Post#33 » by Bulliever2020 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:18 am

ThisGuyFawkes wrote:
Bulliever2020 wrote:
ThisGuyFawkes wrote:
According to the Cowley interview I heard, Billy has been given the mandate to play the young guys. We'll see if that's factual.


Billy is a puppet for the AKME regime. Only reason he has lasted this long. This organization is such a joke.


Sooo... are you for or against playing the young guys?


totally for it, except I really think Pat should continue coming off the bench. I just think it's funny that AKME basically dictates all of his playing time decisions. Only reason Pat has been starting this long. And I really think he was just playing sooooo bad that AKME finally was ok with him coming off the bench reluctantly because the favoritism was becoming painfully obvious.
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Re: Post deadline roster outlook 

Post#34 » by burlydee » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:20 am

Muzbar wrote:From here on out, starting line-up should be:

Vuc/Buzelis/Giddey/Coby/Ayo

Vuc only because he'll never get benched, otherwise I'd like to see Smith get the nod but it'll never happen.

Keep Lonzo on the bench, let him lead the second unit.


I don't like Giddey/Ayo/Coby together. Too much dribbling, no defense. I'd rather Coby or Ayo go to the bench (probably Ayo) and start PWill or Huerter. Ultimately I think Coby is a bench player but the Bulls don't have enough shot creation so he'll probably start regardless.
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Re: Post deadline roster outlook 

Post#35 » by pipfan » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:49 am

Here's the lineup I want to see-if we win games and sneak into the Playin, so be it. Hopefully it'll be entertaining.

Ayo/Ball
White/Hueter
Matas/Pwill
Giddy/PWill
Vuc/Smith
Carter, Terry, Phillips, Collins, THT deep bench
Just buy out Jones and save a few bucks (favor to him and his agent)
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Re: Post deadline roster outlook 

Post#36 » by Muzbar » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:56 am

burlydee wrote:
Muzbar wrote:From here on out, starting line-up should be:

Vuc/Buzelis/Giddey/Coby/Ayo

Vuc only because he'll never get benched, otherwise I'd like to see Smith get the nod but it'll never happen.

Keep Lonzo on the bench, let him lead the second unit.


I don't like Giddey/Ayo/Coby together. Too much dribbling, no defense. I'd rather Coby or Ayo go to the bench (probably Ayo) and start PWill or Huerter. Ultimately I think Coby is a bench player but the Bulls don't have enough shot creation so he'll probably start regardless.

Wait, you don't like Giddey/Coby/Ayo because of no defence, so then decide to bench Ayo (the best defender of the 3).

<insert confused Nick Young meme here>
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Re: Post deadline roster outlook 

Post#37 » by WesPeace » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:02 am

Just put Terry, Phillips, THT on the side as 3rd stringers

PG : Giddey, Ball
SG : Ayo, White
SF : Williams, Huerter
PF : Buzelis, Collins
C : Vucevic, Smith

Wtf we still have both Carter and Jones, only AKME knows..maybe sign John Lucas III and Ardiciano back as well lol
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Re: Post deadline roster outlook 

Post#38 » by burlydee » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:19 am

Muzbar wrote:
burlydee wrote:
Muzbar wrote:From here on out, starting line-up should be:

Vuc/Buzelis/Giddey/Coby/Ayo

Vuc only because he'll never get benched, otherwise I'd like to see Smith get the nod but it'll never happen.

Keep Lonzo on the bench, let him lead the second unit.


I don't like Giddey/Ayo/Coby together. Too much dribbling, no defense. I'd rather Coby or Ayo go to the bench (probably Ayo) and start PWill or Huerter. Ultimately I think Coby is a bench player but the Bulls don't have enough shot creation so he'll probably start regardless.

Wait, you don't like Giddey/Coby/Ayo because of no defence, so then decide to bench Ayo (the best defender of the 3).

<insert confused Nick Young meme here>


I also said over dribbling...

Coby is best scorer. Giddey best passer. No team has ever brought their best defensive guard off the bench before and replaced him with a bigger defender. It's a mind blowing idea
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Re: Post deadline roster outlook 

Post#39 » by Rose2Boozer » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:30 am

This would be my rotation. There's no reason for Donovan to go out of his way to make everyone happy.
Giddey
White
Buzelis
Smith
Vucevic

Ball
Ayo
Phillips
Williams
Collins
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Post#40 » by Dan Z » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:34 am

All I can do is hope for lottery luck, but if that happens does it mean AK's here for even longer?

This off season Giddey will get a contract and his value will change.

Then Ayo, Coby and Vucevic will be on the last year of their contracts.

Vucevic is 34 so he shouldn't be a part of the future. Coby and Ayo...maybe. i'd trade Coby.

Not an exciting future outllook.

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