Coby's Next Contract

[WesPeace]

I don't have enough confidence that Coby can keep up this level of play next season. Would rather max him after a year of good play than pay him $30/yr after this season.

We can extend him for 17.9M per after this season..not more I think, 40% increase. Could be bridge 1yr deal, then we pay him close to 30M for next 4yrs.

[Repeat 3-peat]

Max money is for superstars only. The new CBA is not a joke. You throw that money towards a player, they better be making an All-NBA team period.

Thankfully Coby has another year to potentially prove his worth, and another year to listen for calls from other teams...

[PlayerUp]

I don't have enough confidence that Coby can keep up this level of play next season. Would rather max him after a year of good play than pay him $30/yr after this season.

This has always been the case which is why a max isn't realistic. If he demands that and a team is willing to give that, then we will lose Coby in 2026. However the odds of that happening are slim to none. The new cap makes it difficult for teams to actually approach free agency and bid for max contracts. It's easier than ever before to retain your current players.

[PlayerUp]

We can extend him for 17.9M per after this season..not more I think, 40% increase. Could be bridge 1yr deal, then we pay him close to 30M for next 4yrs.

This is reasonable but I doubt it plays out like this.

[Jcool0]

He’s getting a max contract if he plays like this all next next season. He playing like top 15 player right now.

Top 15? Let's not go crazy. More closer to top 50.

That’s ridiculous. He just won Eastern Conference player of the month. And he deserved it. I can’t take anything you say seriously about any of our players after this take.

So to you winning one player of the month award in a 4 year career makes him a top 15 player? In the 10-15 range: Anthony Edwards, Anthony Davis, Jalen Brunson, Wemby, Tyrese Haliburton. You think he is in that class of player? 2 years ago Zach Lavine had a 27/3.8/4.6 on 51/39/88 run to end the season (Coby is on a 27.7/4.6/4 streak, Bulls are 12-6). Bulls went 13-11 and lost to Miami 102-97 in the Play In for the 8th seed. Did that make him a top 20 player? FWIW they started the next season losing 5 of there first 8 games.

[Chi town]

We can extend him for 17.9M per after this season..not more I think, 40% increase. Could be bridge 1yr deal, then we pay him close to 30M for next 4yrs.

This is reasonable but I doubt it plays out like this.

Don’t think we can extend him next season for next season as he’s already under contract at 12M. That’d be giving him a 6M raise which I don’t believe we can do.

No way he takes 18M after next season.

[WesPeace]

We can extend him for 17.9M per after this season..not more I think, 40% increase. Could be bridge 1yr deal, then we pay him close to 30M for next 4yrs.

This is reasonable but I doubt it plays out like this.

Don’t think we can extend him next season for next season as he’s already under contract at 12M. That’d be giving him a 6M raise which I don’t believe we can do.

No way he takes 18M after next season.

Yeah, sorry, I meant 18M contract after current contract is over.. I heard he cant receive more than 40% raise on 12M deal. Thats why I said,maybe he signs 1yrs 18M like a bridge deal, then if possible he sign for more, contract from 2027-28 onward..

[League Circles]

I know we can't extend him now due to the 40% limitation, but is there any date between now and free agency in summer 2026 where that changes? Sometime during next season or next summer before FA starts?

[Stratmaster]

Are we back in the "Coby had a great month, he's an all-star" discussion again? I like Coby, I sincerely hope that he carries this over and proves me wrong about being the perfect 6th man but a weak starter. But I have seen this movie trailer at least twice before and I will believe it when the full movie is just as good as the trailers.

[coldfish]

People should keep in mind that the cap is about to explode. That said, I worry that this is just "hot" Coby. Tough call.

If you end up paying Coby plus Giddey around $60m per year, that's not the end of the world. Some players make nearly that by themselves.

The guy to look at is Patrick Williams who is making $18m per year for vet min type contribution.

[League Circles]

Are we back in the "Coby had a great month, he's an all-star" discussion again? I like Coby, I sincerely hope that he carries this over and proves me wrong about being the perfect 6th man but a weak starter. But I have seen this movie trailer at least twice before and I will believe it when the full movie is just as good as the trailers.

He's having a great season.

[Jcool0]

Are we back in the "Coby had a great month, he's an all-star" discussion again? I like Coby, I sincerely hope that he carries this over and proves me wrong about being the perfect 6th man but a weak starter. But I have seen this movie trailer at least twice before and I will believe it when the full movie is just as good as the trailers.

He's having a great season.

No, hes having a great month/month and a half. He was having a below average season.

[League Circles]

Are we back in the "Coby had a great month, he's an all-star" discussion again? I like Coby, I sincerely hope that he carries this over and proves me wrong about being the perfect 6th man but a weak starter. But I have seen this movie trailer at least twice before and I will believe it when the full movie is just as good as the trailers.

He's having a great season.

No, hes having a great month. He was having a below average season.

He's having a great season. He's a high volume scorer who's significantly above league average efficiency on the season overall. He offers a lot of leadership, toughness, can score in a pretty wide variety of ways and provides solid supplementary playmaking.

[rosenthall]

People should keep in mind that the cap is about to explode. That said, I worry that this is just "hot" Coby. Tough call.

If you end up paying Coby plus Giddey around $60m per year, that's not the end of the world. Some players make nearly that by themselves.

The guy to look at is Patrick Williams who is making $18m per year for vet min type contribution.

I get the feeling that 60 million is probably what we'll end up paying both those guys combined. Not ideal from a team building perspective since neither is a true all-star, but it's doable.

The cap is 140 million right now, will be 155 million next year, and 170 million the year after that, assuming 10% raises. So 60 million will be about 33% of the total combined cap for our two-best players who are good, but not quite true stars.

I think we are getting "hot" Coby, and he's definitely not this good over an entire season. However, if he could play like this over an entire season he'd get a max contract.

But if you look at his year-to-year play you get a more consistent picture. So if you take his yearly averages of 20.5 points on .600 TS%, it's easy to make an argument that he's worth 30 million/year. There aren't many guards who are scoring at his volume and efficiency this year. His immediate peer group in the NBA is Jordan Poole, Tyler Herro, Immanuel Quickley, and Malik Monk. With the exception of Monk, all of those guys got about 30 million / year against smaller caps. Although some of those deals are recognized as bad contracts right now.

[Stratmaster]

Are we back in the "Coby had a great month, he's an all-star" discussion again? I like Coby, I sincerely hope that he carries this over and proves me wrong about being the perfect 6th man but a weak starter. But I have seen this movie trailer at least twice before and I will believe it when the full movie is just as good as the trailers.

He's having a great season.

No, he isn't. I mean, compared to his other seasons. even AFTER an unbelievably hot month his 3 point shooting is down, his rebounding his down, his assists are middle of the pack compared to his other seasons. His turnovers are up. His BPM is worse than the last 2 seasons. His VORP is worse or the same as the last 2 seasons. He has been getting to the line a lot and that is a great step forward and has increased his TS% getting him close to .600 for the first time in his career, so there is that. But his usage is a 24.5% with a bullet (almost 30% in his 18 game hot streak).

We all had this same conversation last season. I hope he ends up meeting all of your expectations and proves me wrong. I will believe it when I see it for a season.

[Stratmaster]

He's having a great season.

No, hes having a great month. He was having a below average season.

He's having a great season. He's a high volume scorer who's significantly above league average efficiency on the season overall. He offers a lot of leadership, toughness, can score in a pretty wide variety of ways and provides solid supplementary playmaking.

If you take out the last 18 games he wasn't scoring at any more than league average efficiency. But fair enough. His TS% is .598 against a league average of .576 for this season so you have stated a fact. I think that is heavily due to him getting to the fT line more, and that's a good thing.

[League Circles]

Are we back in the "Coby had a great month, he's an all-star" discussion again? I like Coby, I sincerely hope that he carries this over and proves me wrong about being the perfect 6th man but a weak starter. But I have seen this movie trailer at least twice before and I will believe it when the full movie is just as good as the trailers.

He's having a great season.

No, he isn't. I mean, compared to his other seasons. even AFTER an unbelievably hot month his 3 point shooting is down, his rebounding his down, his assists are middle of the pack compared to his other seasons. His turnovers are up. His BPM is worse than the last 2 seasons. His VORP is worse or the same as the last 2 seasons. He has been getting to the line a lot and that is a great step forward and has increased his TS% getting him close to .600 for the first time in his career, so there is that. But his usage is a 24.5% with a bullet (almost 30% in his 18 game hot streak).

We all had this same conversation last season. I hope he ends up meeting all of your expectations and proves me wrong. I will believe it when I see it for a season.

His 3 pt shooting is barely down and at higher volume than ever before, which is basically flat to me. Yet his overall efficiency is way up, and significantly above league average, which is impressive for a high volume perimeter scorer. His assists may be down because we finally have a real point doing most of that work. Same with rebounding (stronger rebounders IMO with Giddey and Matas replacing Patrick etc). His turnovers/100 are barely above his career average and he's at his lowest fouls/100 of his career. IMO stats like VORP and BPM are straight up garbage.

If you don't think his season overall has been at least that of a solid starter I don't think we can go further in the discussion. I consider that an outrageous claim.

[Jcool0]

He's having a great season.

No, hes having a great month. He was having a below average season.

He's having a great season. He's a high volume scorer who's significantly above league average efficiency on the season overall. He offers a lot of leadership, toughness, can score in a pretty wide variety of ways and provides solid supplementary playmaking.

So when the Bulls went 13-23 before the resurgence and Coby averaged 17.2 points on 42/36/89 (3 FTA per game). That was him having a great season?

[Chuck Everett]

It's not in Coby's (or his reps) best interest to extend sadly, so Bulls gonna have to roll the dice on UFA. They may have to trade him because if a better team with money has a spot available, he's probably walking por nada.

[Stratmaster]

He's having a great season.

No, he isn't. I mean, compared to his other seasons. even AFTER an unbelievably hot month his 3 point shooting is down, his rebounding his down, his assists are middle of the pack compared to his other seasons. His turnovers are up. His BPM is worse than the last 2 seasons. His VORP is worse or the same as the last 2 seasons. He has been getting to the line a lot and that is a great step forward and has increased his TS% getting him close to .600 for the first time in his career, so there is that. But his usage is a 24.5% with a bullet (almost 30% in his 18 game hot streak).

We all had this same conversation last season. I hope he ends up meeting all of your expectations and proves me wrong. I will believe it when I see it for a season.

His 3 pt shooting is barely down and at higher volume than ever before, which is basically flat to me. Yet his overall efficiency is way up, and significantly above league average, which is impressive for a high volume perimeter scorer. His assists may be down because we finally have a real point doing most of that work. Same with rebounding (stronger rebounders IMO with Giddey and Matas replacing Patrick etc). His turnovers/100 are barely above his career average and he's at his lowest fouls/100 of his career. IMO stats like VORP and BPM are straight up garbage.

If you don't think his season overall has been at least that of a solid starter I don't think we can go further in the discussion. I consider that an outrageous claim.

Then we should go no further.