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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#21 » by WesPeace » Sun Apr 6, 2025 3:16 pm

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Chi town wrote:I’d take Joan Beringer over Malauch all day. Kid is an electric athlete with length. Souped up Jarret Allen.


You can get him in the 2nd round.


I think he will go before #25 in first round.
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Post#22 » by WesPeace » Sun Apr 6, 2025 3:19 pm

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6'9, 220 lbs. He doesn't appear to have freakishly long arms, and he doesn't possess outlier athleticism. It's not all about height. Matas is 6'9/6'10 and you don't see people calling him a center.

Shorter than most 5s at 6'9. Physically smaller than most 5s at 220lbs. A reported 7'0 wingspan would put him at the bottom compared to other 5s.


As always,different sites, different data.. I saw 6'10 and even 6'11 for Asa.


Georgia athletics is the only team that has him listed at 6'11, and college teams lie about heights all the time. He's likely 6'9/6'10 but this inch difference in height doesn't change much. Newell is still physically smaller than most 5s and has shorter arms than most of them, as well.


Not really, ESPN has him listed at 6'11, Sports Reference site as well.. but I agree he needs to bulk up for NBA, time is on his side anyway.

Draft measurements will tell us what we want to know. Heights, wingspans etc etc
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#23 » by Jcool0 » Sun Apr 6, 2025 3:26 pm

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As always,different sites, different data.. I saw 6'10 and even 6'11 for Asa.


Georgia athletics is the only team that has him listed at 6'11, and college teams lie about heights all the time. He's likely 6'9/6'10 but this inch difference in height doesn't change much. Newell is still physically smaller than most 5s and has shorter arms than most of them, as well.


Not really, ESPN has him listed at 6'11, Sports Reference site as well.. but I agree he needs to bulk up for NBA, time is on his side anyway.

Draft measurements will tell us what we want to know. Heights, wingspans etc etc


Listed at 6-foot-11 by Georgia; previously listed at 6-9 by USAB and 6-10 by Montverde … (I’d guess he’s closer to 6-10 than 6-11)
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#24 » by Rose2Boozer » Sun Apr 6, 2025 3:32 pm

Noah was 6'10.5 w/o shoes, 232lbs, with a 7'1 wingspan. If Newell measures out similar he'll be just fine at the five. That being said, Newell will all but certainly be gone by the 12th pick. The Bulls could be looking at Danny Wolf or Thomas Sorber.
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Post#25 » by LateNight » Sun Apr 6, 2025 6:14 pm

Rose2Boozer wrote:Noah was 6'10.5 w/o shoes, 232lbs, with a 7'1 wingspan. If Newell measures out similar he'll be just fine at the five. That being said, Newell will all but certainly be gone by the 12th pick. The Bulls could be looking at Danny Wolf or Thomas Sorber.


We don’t need to reach to draft a center for need. This team should 100% draft BPA / especially with smith and Collins already under contract
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#26 » by Indomitable » Sun Apr 6, 2025 6:21 pm

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Rose2Boozer wrote:Noah was 6'10.5 w/o shoes, 232lbs, with a 7'1 wingspan. If Newell measures out similar he'll be just fine at the five. That being said, Newell will all but certainly be gone by the 12th pick. The Bulls could be looking at Danny Wolf or Thomas Sorber.


We don’t need to reach to draft a center for need. This team should 100% draft BPA / especially with smith and Collins already under contract

I want two more long and aggressive defenders.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#27 » by HomoSapien » Sun Apr 6, 2025 7:22 pm

Egor Demin is high on my list in our range. I really like how skilled and fluid he looks at such a young age and having a lineup of Giddey, Demin, and Matas would give us a lot of length and versatility.
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Post#28 » by DuckIII » Sun Apr 6, 2025 7:27 pm

CROBulls wrote:Please do NOT draft Duke prospects.


Cooper Flagg attends Duke.

And both Maluach and Kon are on my (somewhat lengthy) list of guys I would take between 10-15.
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Post#29 » by CROBulls » Sun Apr 6, 2025 7:46 pm

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CROBulls wrote:Please do NOT draft Duke prospects.


Cooper Flagg attends Duke.

And both Maluach and Kon are on my (somewhat lengthy) list of guys I would take between 10-15.

Cooper Flagg is out of any math variation that he ends up in Bulls uniform. So do NOT draft Duke prospects. I wouldnt draft Maluach with 3rd round pick and they dont even exist.

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I want Egor Demin if we picking outside top 10. Have a decent feeling about him not sucking. Long term project but Matas Buzelis minutes under Donovan next year are possible.
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Post#30 » by Jcool0 » Sun Apr 6, 2025 9:03 pm

I know this is a 1% chance of happening. But probably the make most sense move would be trade Huerter and probably the pick (12-15?) for the right to Kon Knueppel. Kon fits better on the current Bulls timeline and if there was any 95% comp its Huerter and Knueppel. Maybe the Spurs at #8, who might want to take that next jump would want the more sure thing vet option. 15/3/3 +/- of +9 in his last 19 games Bulls are 14-5. Today 13 points (3-5 from 3), +/- +8 in 28 minutes.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#31 » by Rose2Boozer » Sun Apr 6, 2025 9:49 pm

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Rose2Boozer wrote:Noah was 6'10.5 w/o shoes, 232lbs, with a 7'1 wingspan. If Newell measures out similar he'll be just fine at the five. That being said, Newell will all but certainly be gone by the 12th pick. The Bulls could be looking at Danny Wolf or Thomas Sorber.


We don’t need to reach to draft a center for need. This team should 100% draft BPA / especially with smith and Collins already under contract


They will be amongst the best prospects available. If the Bulls ends up with Danny Wolf, Thomas Sorber, Liam McNeeley, or Noa Essengue it's not a reach.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#32 » by Jcool0 » Sun Apr 6, 2025 9:56 pm

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Rose2Boozer wrote:Noah was 6'10.5 w/o shoes, 232lbs, with a 7'1 wingspan. If Newell measures out similar he'll be just fine at the five. That being said, Newell will all but certainly be gone by the 12th pick. The Bulls could be looking at Danny Wolf or Thomas Sorber.


We don’t need to reach to draft a center for need. This team should 100% draft BPA / especially with smith and Collins already under contract


They will be amongst the best prospects available. If the Bulls ends up with Danny Wolf, Thomas Sorber, Liam McNeeley, or Noa Essengue it's not a reach.


At 15 Wolf and McNeeley would be huge reaches. I was big on McNeeley early but he looks like a bad athlete. Makes Doug McDermott look like Michael Jordan. Add in he shot 31% from 3 and that was supposed to be his most NBA ready skill. Doesn't play defense. Hard pass.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#33 » by DuckIII » Sun Apr 6, 2025 9:58 pm

HomoSapien wrote:Egor Demin is high on my list in our range. I really like how skilled and fluid he looks at such a young age and having a lineup of Giddey, Demin, and Matas would give us a lot of length and versatility.


Same. Don’t forget Lonzo. It could make for some wildly entertaining basketball. I also think Demin’s shot will end up being very good in the NBA.

That said, conventionally speaking, he’s a terribly illogical pick. We need athletic defenders that can shoot. He’s currently neither and won’t ever be one of those two things.

But my draft theory when you are down the board a bit is if there is a legitimately unique prospect with a high ceiling, you take him (partly why I also like Maluach for us). Because if he hits at all you’ve got a guy you can’t just go get with the MLE due to his extremely unique skill set. Most of these other guys will, best case scenario, become the types of nice solid role players you can get every year in free agency.

Demin is very, very high on my list for where we will likely be picking. And I totally understand why many intelligent Bulls fans who know a lot about basketball would think I’m an idiot for that.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#34 » by WindyCityBorn » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:00 pm

Jcool0 wrote:I know this is a 1% chance of happening. But probably the make most sense move would be trade Huerter and probably the pick (12-15?) for the right to Kon Knueppel. Kon fits better on the current Bulls timeline and if there was any 95% comp its Huerter and Knueppel. Maybe the Spurs at #8, who might want to take that next jump would want the more sure thing vet option. 15/3/3 +/- of +9 in his last 19 games Bulls are 14-5. Today 13 points (3-5 from 3), +/- +8 in 28 minutes.


We shouldn’t be drafting anyone that doesn’t project as a plus defender.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#35 » by WindyCityBorn » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:00 pm

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Rose2Boozer wrote:Noah was 6'10.5 w/o shoes, 232lbs, with a 7'1 wingspan. If Newell measures out similar he'll be just fine at the five. That being said, Newell will all but certainly be gone by the 12th pick. The Bulls could be looking at Danny Wolf or Thomas Sorber.


We don’t need to reach to draft a center for need. This team should 100% draft BPA / especially with smith and Collins already under contract


They will be amongst the best prospects available. If the Bulls ends up with Danny Wolf, Thomas Sorber, Liam McNeeley, or Noa Essengue it's not a reach.


It will be a wasted pick.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#36 » by DuckIII » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:05 pm

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Jcool0 wrote:I know this is a 1% chance of happening. But probably the make most sense move would be trade Huerter and probably the pick (12-15?) for the right to Kon Knueppel. Kon fits better on the current Bulls timeline and if there was any 95% comp its Huerter and Knueppel. Maybe the Spurs at #8, who might want to take that next jump would want the more sure thing vet option. 15/3/3 +/- of +9 in his last 19 games Bulls are 14-5. Today 13 points (3-5 from 3), +/- +8 in 28 minutes.


We should be drafting anyone that doesn’t project as a plus defender.


I understand that sentiment. But it’s not that hard to find defenders in free agency. If AK is smart and doesn’t rush it he will have the $ to sign multiple defenders to round out the squad over the next 2 years.

We don’t have a franchise player. We need to explore other ways of skinning the cat. We have some unique players and we should not become too obsessed with shoring up their weaknesses at the expense of potentially outstanding talents.

Kon won’t be a star but I think he’d be an absolutely terrific glue guy/role player offensively. He’d fit incredibly with Matas, Coby and Giddey. Only on offense. I know.
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Post#37 » by SHO'NUFF » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:08 pm

Crazy to think we might draft at #15 or higher. We’re so used to being in the lottery.
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Post#38 » by Rose2Boozer » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:11 pm

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We don’t need to reach to draft a center for need. This team should 100% draft BPA / especially with smith and Collins already under contract


They will be amongst the best prospects available. If the Bulls ends up with Danny Wolf, Thomas Sorber, Liam McNeeley, or Noa Essengue it's not a reach.


At 15 Wolf and McNeeley would be huge reaches. I was big on McNeeley early but he looks like a bad athlete. Makes Doug McDermott look like Michael Jordan. Add in he shot 31% from 3 and that was supposed to be his most NBA ready skill. Doesn't play defense. Hard pass.


A huge reach when compared to who?
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Post#39 » by Jcool0 » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:20 pm

DuckIII wrote:
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Jcool0 wrote:I know this is a 1% chance of happening. But probably the make most sense move would be trade Huerter and probably the pick (12-15?) for the right to Kon Knueppel. Kon fits better on the current Bulls timeline and if there was any 95% comp its Huerter and Knueppel. Maybe the Spurs at #8, who might want to take that next jump would want the more sure thing vet option. 15/3/3 +/- of +9 in his last 19 games Bulls are 14-5. Today 13 points (3-5 from 3), +/- +8 in 28 minutes.


We should be drafting anyone that doesn’t project as a plus defender.


I understand that sentiment. But it’s not that hard to find defenders in free agency. If AK is smart and doesn’t rush it he will have the $ to sign multiple defenders to round out the squad over the next 2 years.

We don’t have a franchise player. We need to explore other ways of skinning the cat. We have some unique players and we should not become too obsessed with shoeing up their weaknesses at the expense of potentially outstanding talents.

Kon won’t be a star but I think he’d be an absolutely terrific glue guy/role player offensively. He’d fit incredibly with Matas, Coby and Giddey. Only on offense. I know.


Kon isn't going to kill you on defense. I've said this before he wont be making an All Defensive team but he will be contributing to wins which is just as valuable. We wouldn't be on this hot streak if not for Huerter returning to form (yes i know Giddey and White are more valuable).
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#40 » by Jcool0 » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:23 pm

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They will be amongst the best prospects available. If the Bulls ends up with Danny Wolf, Thomas Sorber, Liam McNeeley, or Noa Essengue it's not a reach.


At 15 Wolf and McNeeley would be huge reaches. I was big on McNeeley early but he looks like a bad athlete. Makes Doug McDermott look like Michael Jordan. Add in he shot 31% from 3 and that was supposed to be his most NBA ready skill. Doesn't play defense. Hard pass.


A huge reach when compared to who?


McNeeley was seen as a lottery pick but looking more in the late teens(19-25). Wolf is seen a a late first guy. Great college player but going to be a struggle in the NBA.

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