Are the Bulls back?

[RSP83]

I would categorize this 2 wins as Bulls back for extended pre-season vacation.

[NZB2323]

It's great to be optimistic. The Bulls have a nice young core that's won their first 2 games. Awesome, that's fantastic, it really is.

But.

It's been 2 games, maybe just pump the brakes a little?

Also, what exactly does that mean? Back to what exactly?

I'm excited to have Bulls basketball back and it's great they've won their first 2 games of an 82 game regular season, but I think it's way too early in the season to be making any sort of claims in any sort of direction.

Small sample size but another way of looking at it is we’re 19-10 in our last 29 games.

[Muzbar]

It's great to be optimistic. The Bulls have a nice young core that's won their first 2 games. Awesome, that's fantastic, it really is.

But.

It's been 2 games, maybe just pump the brakes a little?

Also, what exactly does that mean? Back to what exactly?

I'm excited to have Bulls basketball back and it's great they've won their first 2 games of an 82 game regular season, but I think it's way too early in the season to be making any sort of claims in any sort of direction.

Small sample size but another way of looking at it is we’re 19-10 in our last 29 games.

And 1-1 in play-in games.

Why 29 games? I don't think last year should matter for this season.

It's great that they're winning, don't get me wrong. I just feel this is a but premature. What happens if the Bulls go on a 5 game (or worse) losing streak?

[Red Larrivee]

It's great to be optimistic. The Bulls have a nice young core that's won their first 2 games. Awesome, that's fantastic, it really is.

But.

It's been 2 games, maybe just pump the brakes a little?

Also, what exactly does that mean? Back to what exactly?

I'm excited to have Bulls basketball back and it's great they've won their first 2 games of an 82 game regular season, but I think it's way too early in the season to be making any sort of claims in any sort of direction.

Small sample size but another way of looking at it is we’re 19-10 in our last 29 games.

And 1-1 in play-in games.

Why 29 games? I don't think last year should matter for this season.

It's great that they're winning, don't get me wrong. I just feel this is a but premature. What happens if the Bulls go on a 5 game (or worse) losing streak?

There are instances of teams figuring it out in the second half of the season and carrying it over to the next season. Especially when you keep that group intact the year after.

[GoBlue72391]

Too much overreaction to a miniscule two game sample size. It's a good start to the season and I'm excited and optimistic, but it's way too early to say we're back thanks to "the losers being gone."

Those losers helped us to the 1st seed for a significant portion of their first season together, let's see if this group of winners can do the same.

Two games is literally nothing in an NBA season. Let's revisit this when we're 15, 20 games in before we determine if they're back or not.

All fair but the Bulls have now won 17 of their last 22 regular season games. Late last season was much of same where people were saying it was too small of a sample size.

At some point, its going to be a good sample size.

I consider that two separate things. It's two separate seasons after all. There's reasons to be optimistic for sure, which I am.

At some point it will be a good sample size, but 2 games into the season isn't that point yet.

[The Box Office]

Wow! Singing "Hallelujah" already! Wow.

[Muzbar]

Small sample size but another way of looking at it is we’re 19-10 in our last 29 games.

And 1-1 in play-in games.

Why 29 games? I don't think last year should matter for this season.

It's great that they're winning, don't get me wrong. I just feel this is a but premature. What happens if the Bulls go on a 5 game (or worse) losing streak?

There are instances of teams figuring it out in the second half of the season and carrying it over to the next season. Especially when you keep that group intact the year after.

There are also instances that show it was just a flash in the pan and it didn't really mean much.

I'm sure I'll be called a negative Nancy or pessimistic Pete, but I just don't think 2 games into the season anyone should be jumping the shark one way or another.

The Rockets have lost their first 2 games and their last 3 games of last season. Are they destined for the lottery?

All I'm saying is wait maybe 20 games before making such 'claims'.

[NZB2323]

It's great to be optimistic. The Bulls have a nice young core that's won their first 2 games. Awesome, that's fantastic, it really is.

But.

It's been 2 games, maybe just pump the brakes a little?

Also, what exactly does that mean? Back to what exactly?

I'm excited to have Bulls basketball back and it's great they've won their first 2 games of an 82 game regular season, but I think it's way too early in the season to be making any sort of claims in any sort of direction.

Small sample size but another way of looking at it is we’re 19-10 in our last 29 games.

And 1-1 in play-in games.

Why 29 games? I don't think last year should matter for this season.

It's great that they're winning, don't get me wrong. I just feel this is a but premature. What happens if the Bulls go on a 5 game (or worse) losing streak?

If the Bulls lose 5 in a row then we’ll overreact to that and say we’re winning the draft lottery!

[Chi town]

Too much overreaction to a miniscule two game sample size. It's a good start to the season and I'm excited and optimistic, but it's way too early to say we're back thanks to "the losers being gone."

Those losers helped us to the 1st seed for a significant portion of their first season together, let's see if this group of winners can do the same.

Two games is literally nothing in an NBA season. Let's revisit this when we're 15, 20 games in before we determine if they're back or not.

All fair but the Bulls have now won 17 of their last 22 regular season games. Late last season was much of same where people were saying it was too small of a sample size.

At some point, its going to be a good sample size.

I consider that two separate things. It's two separate seasons after all. There's reasons to be optimistic for sure, which I am.

At some point it will be a good sample size, but 2 games into the season isn't that point yet.

We looked pretty much the same in preseason against the Cavs Nuggs and Wolves. I know it’s not the same as regular season but it’s still a data point.

[Chi town]

And 1-1 in play-in games.

Why 29 games? I don't think last year should matter for this season.

It's great that they're winning, don't get me wrong. I just feel this is a but premature. What happens if the Bulls go on a 5 game (or worse) losing streak?

There are instances of teams figuring it out in the second half of the season and carrying it over to the next season. Especially when you keep that group intact the year after.

There are also instances that show it was just a flash in the pan and it didn't really mean much.

I'm sure I'll be called a negative Nancy or pessimistic Pete, but I just don't think 2 games into the season anyone should be jumping the shark one way or another.

The Rockets have lost their first 2 games and their last 3 games of last season. Are they destined for the lottery?

All I'm saying is wait maybe 20 games before making such 'claims'.

If you watch the full games it gives a lot of context and nuance.

Rockets lost their PG and they will now struggle. They can’t shoot. At all.

Folks that are speaking high about where we are seem to be looking at the nuance.

Red is one of the best posters on this site for many years. He knows what’s up.

[DuckIII]

They are certainly back to being entertaining and coherent.

Add to that the roster age and a pretty flexible contract situation and there is reason to be optimistic about the longer term future. On the other hand, I felt this way before the games started. But they look much better early than I would have thought.

[Muzbar]

There are instances of teams figuring it out in the second half of the season and carrying it over to the next season. Especially when you keep that group intact the year after.

There are also instances that show it was just a flash in the pan and it didn't really mean much.

I'm sure I'll be called a negative Nancy or pessimistic Pete, but I just don't think 2 games into the season anyone should be jumping the shark one way or another.

The Rockets have lost their first 2 games and their last 3 games of last season. Are they destined for the lottery?

All I'm saying is wait maybe 20 games before making such 'claims'.

If you watch the full games it gives a lot of context and nuance.

Rockets lost their PG and they will now struggle. They can’t shoot. At all.

Folks that are speaking high about where we are seem to be looking at the nuance.

Red is one of the best posters on this site for many years. He knows what’s up.

So you're saying I should just drink the kool-aid?

I don't know what I'm talking about, clearly.

To be clear, I'm not saying they're going to start losing heaps of games and are lottery bound, all I'm saying is that crowning these guys contenders or title favourites or what ever 'back' means may be a bit premature at this stage.

[Chi town]

There are also instances that show it was just a flash in the pan and it didn't really mean much.

I'm sure I'll be called a negative Nancy or pessimistic Pete, but I just don't think 2 games into the season anyone should be jumping the shark one way or another.

The Rockets have lost their first 2 games and their last 3 games of last season. Are they destined for the lottery?

All I'm saying is wait maybe 20 games before making such 'claims'.

If you watch the full games it gives a lot of context and nuance.

Rockets lost their PG and they will now struggle. They can’t shoot. At all.

Folks that are speaking high about where we are seem to be looking at the nuance.

Red is one of the best posters on this site for many years. He knows what’s up.

So you're saying I should just drink the kool-aid?

I don't know what I'm talking about, clearly.

To be clear, I'm not saying they're going to start losing heaps of games and are lottery bound, all I'm saying is that crowning these guys contenders or title favourites or what ever 'back' means may be a bit premature at this stage.

We aren’t crowning anyone.

They did this last season in the final 20 games.
They looked this way in preseason.
They did this on the road with Coby Collins and even Buz basically being a DNP.

Everyone was saying a 2-8 start. Gauntlet. Tough start. Even Billy looked shook when Collins went down.

The game has changed big time and the Bulls have played their cards perfectly to lead the change. Pace, 3s, Depth, and physicality on D.

[DuckIII]

all I'm saying is that crowning these guys contenders or title favourites or what ever 'back' means may be a bit premature at this stage.

I don’t think that’s what people mean.

[nomorezorro]

yeah i think "title favorites" is selling this team short. "an inevitable dynasty" maybe?

[GoBlue72391]

2 games out of 82 is absolutely wild to be making any kind of judgements whatsoever other than "We looked good these first 2 games, of which we won both, and there's plenty to be optimistic about."

Anything more than that is just downright nutty. We have 98% of the season remaining.

And somebody's going to need to define what "back" even means, but I suspect everyone will have a different answer to that and that's where a big part of the disconnect stems from.

Are we fun to watch and at the very least a competent team? Absolutely, and we have been since last season. If that's what is meant by "back", then we're absolutely back and have been for some time.

If it means we're back to national relevancy or back to being a playoff team and bypassing the play-in altogether or something else, then no, we're not back. Not yet.

[GoBlue72391]

There are instances of teams figuring it out in the second half of the season and carrying it over to the next season. Especially when you keep that group intact the year after.

There are also instances that show it was just a flash in the pan and it didn't really mean much.

I'm sure I'll be called a negative Nancy or pessimistic Pete, but I just don't think 2 games into the season anyone should be jumping the shark one way or another.

The Rockets have lost their first 2 games and their last 3 games of last season. Are they destined for the lottery?

All I'm saying is wait maybe 20 games before making such 'claims'.

If you watch the full games it gives a lot of context and nuance.

Rockets lost their PG and they will now struggle. They can’t shoot. At all.

Folks that are speaking high about where we are seem to be looking at the nuance.

Red is one of the best posters on this site for many years. He knows what’s up.

One guy is right because he's been here a long time and anyone who has a different opinion is wrong? Lol

No one is even being negative, just saying hey maybe we should go the speed limit for a little while longer before slamming our foot on the pedal.

[Muzbar]

all I'm saying is that crowning these guys contenders or title favourites or what ever 'back' means may be a bit premature at this stage.

I don’t think that’s what people mean.

What exactly does 'back' mean Duck? I'm genuinely asking.

I'm happy the Bulls are winning, but this seems a little overreactive after 2 games, IMO.

Maybe I just need to take a break from the forum for a bit.

[PaKii94]

Back to playing competent ball.
Back to having a chance at winning games.
Back to having some sort of future.

We have been playing dead end ball since 2018. This includes the little spurt at the beginning of 2021. The team was just hot shot making then (with a sprinkle of special defense).

These last two games haven't been because Coby/Lavine/ddr got hot. It's been solid competent team wins

[HomoSapien]

I guess the question is how much weight you put into the end of last season. I think we won 11 of our last 15, or something like that? I agree two games mean very little, but we look good and seem to be carryig over last season's momentum.