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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#21 » by lostonbase » Tue Dec 9, 2025 12:47 pm

They screw up Matas' development, trade him and he becomes the next
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#22 » by sco » Tue Dec 9, 2025 1:49 pm

I think our trajectory will improve if/when we get Smith/Jones/Okoro back and Coby finds his rhythm after being out for 3 months.

Based on rumors, I see us making a move for AD, Zion or that ilk. I'm not saying it will be the right move, but the key will be that we don't leave ourselves too few assets to further improve with another star after that.
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#23 » by ghostinthepost1 » Tue Dec 9, 2025 2:22 pm

AKME makes a desperate win now trade that, like everything else they've done, is an unmitigated disaster but they end up keeping their jobs anyway since they recently signed extensions and the Drofs are cheap as ****.
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#24 » by Almost Retired » Tue Dec 9, 2025 2:57 pm

We really could have used that 2nd FRP from Portland. But the Blazers are 9-15 and going nowhere. We'll probably not get to take their pick this year. Too bad. If we would just accept reality and tank and had the Blazers pick we could draft a legit Center and a PF. For a C we could get Chris Cenac, Patrick Ngongba or Henri Veesaar. And at PF we could have nabbed Hannes Steinbach or Yaxel Lendeborg. Keep trying to build through the draft. Forget about adding often injured vets with high salaries on the downward trajectory in their careers. This team is set up for a tank if we just let it play out. Don't fire Donavan. He's unintentionally doing exactly what we need to do....lose. Play Terry. Play Phillips. Sit Patrick. Try to move Coby at the deadline. Being a play-in patsy has lost its appeal. I'd rather the Bulls lose every one of their remaining games than to see them get the last play-in slot.
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#25 » by eierluke » Tue Dec 9, 2025 2:57 pm

sco wrote:I think our trajectory will improve if/when we get Smith/Jones/Okoro back and Coby finds his rhythm after being out for 3 months.

Based on rumors, I see us making a move for AD, Zion or that ilk. I'm not saying it will be the right move, but the key will be that we don't leave ourselves too few assets to further improve with another star after that.


Best case we're 2 years (worst case another 30 years) away from becoming a contender
Trading for AD would be horrible.
We'd pay for the rest of his productive years without any relevant success and would by the way waste the rest of his productive years.

No countable result except maybe job security for AKME due to another play-in game
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#26 » by Bulls_MIT » Tue Dec 9, 2025 3:26 pm

So the Bulls are back in Charlotte on Friday. It's their chance to break the losing streak. They have to be smart and prepared. The losing and negativity has led to bad decision making. Last time Bulls were in Charlotte, Giddy made a bad decision by not ignoring the heckler. I imagine he regrets that decision, especially since it went viral and Charlotte fans will probably chant the same Giddy stuff again on Friday night. Bulls players have to ignore. Let the fuel their fire and play harder and tougher. Keep focused and we might win a game. Breaking losing streaks is huge, it can change things. I'm not ready to give up on Giddy, Buz, White, and Billy. However if this gets out of hand, and the continue making worse decisions during games and preparing for games, the losing streak could extend and the season could be an embarrassment. I'm keeping the hope alive for now. There is nobody in the upcoming draft that would turn this franchise around, so might as well try to match last season's record and work on player development from within.
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#27 » by drosestruts » Tue Dec 9, 2025 4:13 pm

From here I see us slowly getting healthy and eventually playing better once again.

I think we make some largely inconsequential trade, one I like is a trade with the Clippers - 3 players for 3 players, all expirings.

Bulls in: Brook Lopez, John Collins, and Bogdan Bogdanovic

Clippers in: Vuc, Kevin Huerter, and Jevon Carter

Gives us much needed size (I'd start Collins at the 4), and paves the way for us to move on from Vuc.


Mostly I see us arguing about what this team is and isn't then having a lot of debates in the offseason and who we should re-sign vs use in a sign and trade.

We are not a top-heavy team with a star dragging a team to wins, we start one of the worst defensive lineups in the entire NBA. But when at full strength we are deep, which will win you regular season games.

It's really not that confusing to me.
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#28 » by ChettheJet » Tue Dec 9, 2025 4:53 pm

Yeah they should fire AK, ME, BD and even Benny The Bulls and hire the geniuses that none of the other 29 teams have hired who will turn things around and satisfy a bunch of 12 years olds married to their phones who have no clue about the NBA.

Right now, you wait to see if there's a chance you can put a healthy full roster out there to really see what you've got. Next man up sounds like great basketballspeak but it's BS. If the next guy up was as good at the first, you'd get him on the floor more. Backups come off the bench because they're not as good as the starters. Live with it. From day 1 Billy has said, we don't have much margin for error with this team, we have to show up every night to win games. Well when anywhere from 1-3 starters are out they aren't close to having enough to win most games even against the bottom tanking teams.

The joke in the NE until Tom Brady was always the two most popular athletes in Boston were the backup QB for the Patriots and the backup goalie for the Bruins. Every fan base thinks the guy they see the least of is the better player


I'm willing to get much closer to the deadline to see if the playoffs are in sight, if anybody in the top 8 goes down for the season then you might as well look at trading now but only if you think you can get more for players than you can over the summer, Going onto the summer with a lot of cap space for FAs or trades, Noa back healthy with a year of weights and watching film, their own pick is like having a pair of 1sts, the outside chance at the PORT pick, that's a good spot to be in.
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#29 » by cocktailswith_2short » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:08 pm

ChettheJet wrote:Yeah they should fire AK, ME, BD and even Benny The Bulls and hire the geniuses that none of the other 29 teams have hired who will turn things around and satisfy a bunch of 12 years olds married to their phones who have no clue about the NBA.

Right now, you wait to see if there's a chance you can put a healthy full roster out there to really see what you've got. Next man up sounds like great basketballspeak but it's BS. If the next guy up was as good at the first, you'd get him on the floor more. Backups come off the bench because they're not as good as the starters. Live with it. From day 1 Billy has said, we don't have much margin for error with this team, we have to show up every night to win games. Well when anywhere from 1-3 starters are out they aren't close to having enough to win most games even against the bottom tanking teams.

The joke in the NE until Tom Brady was always the two most popular athletes in Boston were the backup QB for the Patriots and the backup goalie for the Bruins. Every fan base thinks the guy they see the least of is the better player


I'm willing to get much closer to the deadline to see if the playoffs are in sight, if anybody in the top 8 goes down for the season then you might as well look at trading now but only if you think you can get more for players than you can over the summer, Going onto the summer with a lot of cap space for FAs or trades, Noa back healthy with a year of weights and watching film, their own pick is like having a pair of 1sts, the outside chance at the PORT pick, that's a good spot to be in.
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#30 » by wolffy » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:50 pm

They need to start amassing picks and assets. Trade Coby for ANYTHING you can. Same with Giddey and anyone else they could.

And for the love of God dont try to make the play in
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#31 » by ghostinthepost1 » Tue Dec 9, 2025 6:09 pm

ChettheJet wrote:Yeah they should fire AK, ME, BD and even Benny The Bulls and hire the geniuses that none of the other 29 teams have hired who will turn things around and satisfy a bunch of 12 years olds married to their phones who have no clue about the NBA.

Right now, you wait to see if there's a chance you can put a healthy full roster out there to really see what you've got. Next man up sounds like great basketballspeak but it's BS. If the next guy up was as good at the first, you'd get him on the floor more. Backups come off the bench because they're not as good as the starters. Live with it. From day 1 Billy has said, we don't have much margin for error with this team, we have to show up every night to win games. Well when anywhere from 1-3 starters are out they aren't close to having enough to win most games even against the bottom tanking teams.

The joke in the NE until Tom Brady was always the two most popular athletes in Boston were the backup QB for the Patriots and the backup goalie for the Bruins. Every fan base thinks the guy they see the least of is the better player


I'm willing to get much closer to the deadline to see if the playoffs are in sight, if anybody in the top 8 goes down for the season then you might as well look at trading now but only if you think you can get more for players than you can over the summer, Going onto the summer with a lot of cap space for FAs or trades, Noa back healthy with a year of weights and watching film, their own pick is like having a pair of 1sts, the outside chance at the PORT pick, that's a good spot to be in.


At some point Brad Stevens was someone none of the other 29 teams had hired. Same thing with Greg Poppovich, Sam Presti, etc etc

So, what has AKME done that makes you think they're better than any of the "geniuses that none of the other 29 teams have hired."

The 1 winning season?

Is it the 1 play off win?

Please don't tell me you're still holding on to the start of the 21/22 season.

Their exemplary draft record in the 1st round of Pat Williams, Dalen Terry, Noa Essengue?

I'm 100% serious, what has AKME EVER done that could be seen as an unarguably positive move. The only one I can think of is signing AC but everything else has been at best "okay" and, more than likely, absolute dog ****.
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#32 » by Dan Z » Tue Dec 9, 2025 6:10 pm

Almost Retired wrote:We really could have used that 2nd FRP from Portland. But the Blazers are 9-15 and going nowhere. We'll probably not get to take their pick this year. Too bad. If we would just accept reality and tank and had the Blazers pick we could draft a legit Center and a PF. For a C we could get Chris Cenac, Patrick Ngongba or Henri Veesaar. And at PF we could have nabbed Hannes Steinbach or Yaxel Lendeborg. Keep trying to build through the draft. Forget about adding often injured vets with high salaries on the downward trajectory in their careers. This team is set up for a tank if we just let it play out. Don't fire Donavan. He's unintentionally doing exactly what we need to do....lose. Play Terry. Play Phillips. Sit Patrick. Try to move Coby at the deadline. Being a play-in patsy has lost its appeal. I'd rather the Bulls lose every one of their remaining games than to see them get the last play-in slot.


I know Markkanen's value wasn't high at the time, but its crazy that the Bulls couldn't get a better pick for him (or less protections on it over time so it actually conveys).

One second round pick and DDJ for Markkanen. Ugh.
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#33 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Tue Dec 9, 2025 7:02 pm

My thought was a billboard.

But what's funny is the fanbase that cared that much about the Bulls to have a billboard is gone. No one cares enough anymore

Start telling corporations you work with to stop buying Bulls tickets. Until that happens, nothing will change.
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#34 » by _txchilibowl_ » Tue Dec 9, 2025 7:11 pm

Why even create this topic? You already know what the responses will be.
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#35 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Dec 9, 2025 7:19 pm

sco wrote:I think our trajectory will improve if/when we get Smith/Jones/Okoro back and Coby finds his rhythm after being out for 3 months.

Based on rumors, I see us making a move for AD, Zion or that ilk. I'm not saying it will be the right move, but the key will be that we don't leave ourselves too few assets to further improve with another star after that.


We don’t have the assets to acquire two stars even if we get one severely discounted.
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#36 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Dec 9, 2025 7:23 pm

wolffy wrote:They need to start amassing picks and assets. Trade Coby for ANYTHING you can. Same with Giddey and anyone else they could.

And for the love of God dont try to make the play in



Trading Giddey would be moronic. He is the one great young talent we have.
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#37 » by drosestruts » Tue Dec 9, 2025 7:30 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
wolffy wrote:They need to start amassing picks and assets. Trade Coby for ANYTHING you can. Same with Giddey and anyone else they could.

And for the love of God dont try to make the play in



Trading Giddey would be moronic. He is the one great young talent we have.


Yeah but one day that pick may (though likely not) be a player averaging 20/9/9 with a 58% TS%

Giddey is 23, he's old.

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This board would have been calling for Detroit to trade Cade. How many years of the Spurs missing the playoffs before Wemby is a bust? Oh wait, that's right, this board is very grass is greener on the other side. Those teams struggles are all part of a plan (spoiler alert, no one has a plan), ours are happening by accident.
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#38 » by prolific passer » Tue Dec 9, 2025 7:43 pm

Bulls are in limbo. Don't really want to trade for any of the stars because they have huge contracts and injury concerns. Don't trust Akme in a tank job because they haven't drafted well in their time here. Don't trust Billy because he just isn't a good coach at motivating his players and/or with the X and O's.

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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#39 » by Clocian » Tue Dec 9, 2025 8:47 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
wolffy wrote:They need to start amassing picks and assets. Trade Coby for ANYTHING you can. Same with Giddey and anyone else they could.

And for the love of God dont try to make the play in



Trading Giddey would be moronic. He is the one great young talent we have.


We should trade Matas too. A young talented player on a rookie contract. Imagine the picks he can get us!
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Re: What Happens From Here 

Post#40 » by wolffy » Tue Dec 9, 2025 10:45 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
wolffy wrote:They need to start amassing picks and assets. Trade Coby for ANYTHING you can. Same with Giddey and anyone else they could.

And for the love of God dont try to make the play in



Trading Giddey would be moronic. He is the one great young talent we have.


Wouldn't that depend on what you got back? Hopefully theres a lot of GMs thinking like you.

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