Warriors @ Bulls Postgame Thread: So whats new?

Sonny_D1 · Post #21 » by **Sonny_D1** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:36 am

Scott Boylan

Red Larrivee · Post #22 » by **Red Larrivee** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:37 am

Deng was like a library tonight. You never would have guessed that he had 12 rebounds tonight, unless you saw the box score. 0 impact on the game.

Susan · Post #23 » by **Susan** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:38 am

I hope people realize how stupid it was to go zone. Instead of drive and kick it was stand, pass twice and an open 3. When they missed it was long and our bigs were rotating out on the shooters. Freaking incredible.

chicagobull · Post #24 » by **chicagobull** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:39 am

Emotions are tense when it should have been a W. Third quarters are just bad for us. It wasn't really even our fault, the guy is hit five three pointers while we would get fouled and go to the line.

Now there's going to be major Ben Wallace hate, but I don't think he even played the entire fourth quarter, and not much of the third either. He played great the first half. Then Noah came in and played amazing, I don't know why they took him out for the fourth quarter. Some mistakes like always that cost us the game, but I think the refs were the sixth man for the warriors tonight. Holy crap how do you call that perfect block by smith a foul? That was total bogus I hope that guy loses his job. Not often do I feel that way about a ref, I usually let it pass and blame our guys, but man that could have been a different outcome to this game.

whodey · Post #25 » by **whodey** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:40 am

I guess what really irrates me is that how such a large group of fans like us can easily see what's hurting the team, yet our coaches or GM do nothing to stop the bleeding. I mean come on, how blatent was it that Duhon was doing absolutely nothing for the game. Play Thabo instead of duhon, this is just getting absolutely ridiculous. Boylan makes 2 straight offense - defense substitutions to bring in duhon for Gordon but when Gordon goes to the line he sticks with the status quo and keeps duhon in instead of bringin Thabo in for duhomo. I can't stand his child molester eyes. He looks like a freak.

Hinrich / Gordon
Thabo / Gordon
Deng / Nocioni
Smith / Nocioni
Wallace / Noah

And the closing 4 minutes of each game should be a combination of hinrich and sefolosha or gordon and sefolosha each and every game. Hinrich when the backcourt is explosive as it was tonight and gordon and sefolosha when playing teams that have a weak guard. In fact, continue doing offense - defense between the three, just please don't let me see duhon on the court. His defense is EXTREMELY overrated.

Post #26 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:42 am

This loss was on Boylan. When Baron Davis went off, it was all when Duhon was on him. Now Davis was hot, I am not denying that, but Thabo made him his some ridulous shots. When Duhon was on him, it was a 3ptr or a layup.

In that 3rd quarter, it was stupid to play Duhon on him that whole time. Just stupid.

Then down the stretch you take out Gordon?

I hope this isnt right

Duhon 34mins
Gordon 33mins
Noce 30mins
Thabo 27 mins.

Thats just dumb. Especially when you figure how this game went.

LIbullsfan · Post #27 » by **LIbullsfan** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:42 am

whodey wrote: I can't stand his child molester eyes. He looks like a freak.

thank you for cheering me up.

girlygirl · Post #28 » by **girlygirl** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:43 am

There was absolutely NO reason why Duhon should have been on the court in the 4th quarter. He isn't a good enough playmaker to earn minutes, especially when he was getting burned time and again on defense.

Joe Smith and Deng didn't step up to give BG and Noc enough help on offense tonight.

Bulls missed WAY too many FTs, allowing the Warriors to hang around and hang around until Davis heated up (Ellis as good throughout the game)

Poor work on the boards. Is there a reason why nobody bothered to block out Ellis? The guy is 6'2! Granted, he's an athletic 6'2", but there's no way he should get nearly 10 rebounds in a game.

This team lacks a killer instinct and they struggle every time they are in a tight game late. They simply don't seem able to understand how to properly execute on either end of the floor in these situations -- and it doesn't really seem to matter who s or isn't on the floor at the time

Better hope Kirk comes back tomorrow so the Bulls can go to a 3-man rotation of him, BG and Thabo and glue Duhon's butt to the bench...because Chris really stinks out loud right now

cool007 · Post #29 » by **cool007** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:44 am

We miss 14 free throws in a close game - WTF with Deng/Noah/Wallace? Go shoot yourself.

Deng had a poor game IMO. His TOs were awful and was not finishing close to the basket either. Missing free throws were even more pathetic.

Refs were simply awful - big tim awful.

ARodr21 · Post #30 » by **ARodr21** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:45 am

After Deng's 44 minutes for the night Duhon was 2nd with 35.

That is bad coaching strategy. Griffen on Davis could of been tolerable at one point over Duhon

Red Larrivee · Post #31 » by **Red Larrivee** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:45 am

Yea the Free-throws were bad as well. And there was a point in the 4th, where Golden State was getting a **** of And-1 plays. And when we got to the line we usually only got 1 of 2.

So while the coaching sucked, the players did there fair share of damage too.

But I still don't see how hard it was to just put Gordon/Sefolosha in for the whole 4th. What was Duhon doing of any importance?

richard · Post #32 » by **richard** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:47 am

didn't see the game. why did wallace play only 21 minutes, and none in the 4th?

whodey · Post #33 » by **whodey** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:51 am

[quote="richard"]didn't see the game. why did wallace play only 21 minutes, and none in the 4th?[/quote

nellie probably would have pulled a hack a shaq. Both the third and fourth quarters the warriors were in the penalty within 5 minutes. That's what makes the loss even sadder. We should have killed them at the line, but smith and deng really let us down at the line. And Noah, makes a great hustle and then lets out an immature scream, and then misses both free throws. I bet everyone on both the bulls and warriors bench were just ripping on him because he looked like a fool.

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #34 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:51 am

richard wrote:didn't see the game. why did wallace play only 21 minutes, and none in the 4th?

Because he is irrelevant and easily replaced.

There is absolutely no justifiable reason to start Wallace over Noah.

NLK · Post #35 » by **NLK** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:51 am

richard wrote:didn't see the game. why did wallace play only 21 minutes, and none in the 4th?

He took a 3pter in the 2nd Quarter, when there were other Bulls teammates he could've passed to get a bucket. Plus, GS went really small in the 3rd Quarter and they got to the boards. Ben started sucking after the midway point in the 1st Quarter.

HINrichPolice · Post #36 » by **HINrichPolice** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:53 am

Warriors had a typical Warrior game. You never felt any lead would be safe.

They shoot 3's with no thought as to how many they've missed before.

I was happy with our transition defense. I thought we did an okay job of not letting Nelson impose the style of play. We looked comfortable with the tempo. Plus, it gave Boylan an excuse to sit Wallace.

I thought there were a lot of calls that should've went our way, especially for being the home team.

Very entertaining game. Thought the win was ours for the taking.

Monta is a stud. After watching Monta score and rebound with the big boys and after watching Gordon blow an open left handed lay up in crunch time, it really makes you realize how much better Gordon should be regardless of height. At least Gordon has the automatic 25 foot 3 pointer in garbage time down like no other.

Sonny_D1 · Post #37 » by **Sonny_D1** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:54 am

I hate to say it, but this team really does need a change just for the sake of change.

I mean, even if we get semi-raped, I think it's for the better.

BigUps · Post #38 » by **BigUps** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:55 am

Red Larrivee wrote:But I still don't see how hard it was to just put Gordon/Sefolosha in for the whole 4th. What was Duhon doing of any importance?

I see what you and many others are saying, but who handles the ball if we have a Thabo and Gordon backcourt? Gordon was having dribbling issues all night. He was either overdribbling like crazy or just losing the handle on the ball. And I'm not sure I want Thabo being the primary ball handler late in the game.

I don't think Boylan's move was nearly as bad as many are making it out to be. I think our our 3 guards deficiencies were exploited tonight, making the decision harder than you'd think. However, I would have probably gambled with the Thabo and Gordon backcourt.

Post #39 » by **kulaz3000** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:56 am

BigUps wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I see what you and many others are saying, but who handles the ball if we have a Thabo and Gordon backcourt? Gordon was having dribbling issues all night. He was either overdribbling like crazy or just losing the handle on the ball. And I'm not sure I want Thabo being the primary ball handler late in the game.

I don't think Boylan's move was nearly as bad as many are making it out to be. I think our our 3 guards deficiencies were exploited tonight, making the decision harder than you'd think. However, I would have probably gambled with the Thabo and Gordon backcourt.

GS's guards were just flat out better than ours. Its as simple as that.

cool007 · Post #40 » by **cool007** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:58 am

BigUps wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I see what you and many others are saying, but who handles the ball if we have a Thabo and Gordon backcourt? Gordon was having dribbling issues all night. He was either overdribbling like crazy or just losing the handle on the ball. And I'm not sure I want Thabo being the primary ball handler late in the game.

I don't think Boylan's move was nearly as bad as many are making it out to be. I think our our 3 guards deficiencies were exploited tonight, making the decision harder than you'd think. However, I would have probably gambled with the Thabo and Gordon backcourt.

Well you didn't notice but Thabo did a good job whenever he was playing Point and it's not like Duhon is a super stud PG or anything.

Besides Du was getting burnt all night long against Davis and Thabo did as good a job you could have done on Davis.

I think our coaches trust Duhon way way too much and it's backfiring and the sad thing is that - they don't even know it. :banghead:

Sad but true