ESPN: Bulls "determined" to NOT trade Deng

[transplant]

If that's the cornerstone of your plan, you either re-sign Deng or trade him for another player that has as much utility as Deng has for a Rose-led team. I'm certainly open to such a trade, but I haven't seen many proposals that meet the criteria.

If you've made the decision to try to resign Deng, then it only benefits you to do so right now and work out an extension. The Bulls have much to lose by waiting till the offseason (i.e. losing Deng for nothing) while little to gain by playing poker ($2-3 mill).

As I understand it, Deng's contract can only be extended by 3 seasons right now. I can completely understand why Deng's side would not want to deal with that limitation. After this season, the Bulls could re-sign him for up to 5 seasons. Net, if Deng's staying a Bull, it'll be a re-signing, not an extension.

[P.C.]

According to a guy I know, the Bulls are talking to Phoenix and Cleveland about Deng for a 1st round 2014 pick. It's semi-reliable source.

This was also reported by Schanowski. He said the PHX deal was sitting out there as a possibility because it can't happen until mid-Jan.

What possible reason could there be for a trade not to be completed until January? I call bull **** (on Schanowski's rumor not on you.)

[HomoSapien]

If that's the cornerstone of your plan, you either re-sign Deng or trade him for another player that has as much utility as Deng has for a Rose-led team. I'm certainly open to such a trade, but I haven't seen many proposals that meet the criteria.

If you've made the decision to try to resign Deng, then it only benefits you to do so right now and work out an extension. The Bulls have much to lose by waiting till the offseason (i.e. losing Deng for nothing) while little to gain by playing poker ($2-3 mill).

As I understand it, Deng's contract can only be extended by 3 seasons right now. I can completely understand why Deng's side would not want to deal with that limitation. After this season, the Bulls could re-sign him for up to 5 seasons. Net, if Deng's staying a Bull, it'll be a re-signing, not an extension.

I might be completely wrong on this, but the hold up doesn't seem to be about number of years, but instead seems to be dollars I think I read somewhere that the two sides were $5mill off. At the end of the day, I just don't see the why the Bulls think they have the upper hand in negotiations with Deng.

There will be plenty of suitors and we're no longer a contender.

[abide]

Let me know when deng can score and do this
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUSll8nD-58[/youtube]

[dmk08]

Let me know when deng can score and do this

What assets do we have to get Aaron Afflalo?

[transplant]

As I understand it, Deng's contract can only be extended by 3 seasons right now. I can completely understand why Deng's side would not want to deal with that limitation. After this season, the Bulls could re-sign him for up to 5 seasons. Net, if Deng's staying a Bull, it'll be a re-signing, not an extension.

I might be completely wrong on this, but the hold up doesn't seem to be about number of years, but instead seems to be dollars I think I read somewhere that the two sides were $5mill off. At the end of the day, I just don't see the why the Bulls think they have the upper hand in negotiations with Deng.

There will be plenty of suitors and we're no longer a contender.

Nothing I've read contradicts this takeaway:

- The two sides met this summer regarding an extension and the talks didn't result in an extension. Cowley claims that the two sides were $5mil apart. Cowley's report hasn't been confirmed by the team or Deng's agent.

- Since the Bulls are the only team that can offer Deng a 5-year contract after this season, they have a decided advantage over other teams should they choose to use it.

[HomoSapien]

As I understand it, Deng's contract can only be extended by 3 seasons right now. I can completely understand why Deng's side would not want to deal with that limitation. After this season, the Bulls could re-sign him for up to 5 seasons. Net, if Deng's staying a Bull, it'll be a re-signing, not an extension.

I might be completely wrong on this, but the hold up doesn't seem to be about number of years, but instead seems to be dollars I think I read somewhere that the two sides were $5mill off. At the end of the day, I just don't see the why the Bulls think they have the upper hand in negotiations with Deng.

There will be plenty of suitors and we're no longer a contender.

Nothing I've read contradicts this takeaway:

- The two sides met this summer regarding an extension and the talks didn't result in an extension. Cowley claims that the two sides were $5mil apart. Cowley's report hasn't been confirmed by the team or Deng's agent.

- Since the Bulls are the only team that can offer Deng a 5-year contract after this season, they have a decided advantage over other teams should they choose to use it.

Wasn't there a quote directly from Deng's agent saying that the Bulls never even spoke to him about an extension?

[drosestruts]

Let me know when deng can score and do this
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUSll8nD-58[/youtube]

As you wiiiiiish

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giYEz0miRtg[/youtube]


*Edit: Also worth noting that Afflalo lost that game so good job good effort

[ItalianBull]

Sad. Sad.

[GoBlue72391]

Let me know when deng can score and do this
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUSll8nD-58[/youtube]

Are you serious? Deng is capable of scoring in the exact same way Afflalo does in that video. It's not like he's going iso or creating his own offense in a manner that Deng is incapable of. Everything Afflalo did in that video Deng can and has done before in the past.

If it's the 43 points you're hung up on, Deng has a career high of 40 and scored 37 just a few weeks ago.

There's literally nothing in that video that Deng is incapable of doing or has not done in the past, with the possible exception of the 3-pointer at 2:30.

Tell me, what do you think Deng is incapable of doing that Afflalo did in that video?

[Rose2Boozer]

Well, this is where they see they can't get a kings ransom in a trade, and decides to overpay. Not surprised.

[transplant]

I might be completely wrong on this, but the hold up doesn't seem to be about number of years, but instead seems to be dollars I think I read somewhere that the two sides were $5mill off. At the end of the day, I just don't see the why the Bulls think they have the upper hand in negotiations with Deng.

There will be plenty of suitors and we're no longer a contender.

Nothing I've read contradicts this takeaway:

- The two sides met this summer regarding an extension and the talks didn't result in an extension. Cowley claims that the two sides were $5mil apart. Cowley's report hasn't been confirmed by the team or Deng's agent.

- Since the Bulls are the only team that can offer Deng a 5-year contract after this season, they have a decided advantage over other teams should they choose to use it.

Wasn't there a quote directly from Deng's agent saying that the Bulls never even spoke to him about an extension?

Not that I recall, but if there was and you believe it, the $5mil difference is blown out of the water, right?

[Benedict Miller]

Any news on the availability of Monroe? He'd be a nice player to have for Deng.

[LobosJordan]

Cool if Deng is here for another 5 years we still have the same problem. No scoring from the perimeter, and Butler and Deng cannot coexist. Also we will make the playoffs with Deng, whether people want to like that or not. And if we do make the playoffs and Deng is not resigned, I will be banned from this board with this ammount of hate and vitrol I will spew at the FO.

[TheBigSqueeze]

Let me know when deng can score and do this
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUSll8nD-58[/youtube]

Are you serious? Deng is capable of scoring in the exact same way Afflalo does in that video. It's not like he's going iso or creating his own offense in a manner that Deng is incapable of. Everything Afflalo did in that video Deng can and has done before in the past.

If it's the 43 points you're hung up on, Deng has a career high of 40 and scored 37 just a few weeks ago.

There's literally nothing in that video that Deng is incapable of doing or has not done in the past, with the possible exception of the 3-pointer at 2:30.

Tell me, what do you think Deng is incapable of doing that Afflalo did in that video?

Honestly Afflalo doesn't do that much more than Deng, which is why I don't get why people keep pining for him. The only thing he does better is score on a more consistent basis but I think people are comparing apples to oranges here neither Deng or Afflalo are putting a team over the top, they're both good players in their own right though.

[TheBigSqueeze]

Cool if Deng is here for another 5 years. We still have the same problem. No scoring from the perimeter. And Butler and Deng cannot coexist.

I fully expect the FO to trade Jimmy if we go the route of resigning Deng. It would be foolish to keep both as they're redundant together.

Resigning Deng pretty much tells me they've picked him over Butler which considering age and asking price is the wrong choice IMHO. Butler doesn't give you 100 percent of what Luol gives you but he also wouldn't command the same price as Deng. Not to mention with the funds saved from not resigning Deng we could add a more dynamic player.

It would be best to move on from a core that hasn't worked and try a different route, but that's obviously something the FO deems to be too much of a risk.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

According to a guy I know, the Bulls are talking to Phoenix and Cleveland about Deng for a 1st round 2014 pick. It's semi-reliable source.

This was also reported by Schanowski. He said the PHX deal was sitting out there as a possibility because it can't happen until mid-Jan.

What possible reason could there be for a trade not to be completed until January? I call bull **** (on Schanowski's rumor not on you.)

I would assume that because at least one of the players involved in the trade (currently unmentioned/unknown) was newly signed using Bird or Early Bird rights.

[abide]

Cool if Deng is here for another 5 years we still have the same problem. No scoring from the perimeter, and Butler and Deng cannot coexist. Also we will make the playoffs with Deng, whether people want to like that or not. And if we do make the playoffs and Deng is not resigned, I will be banned from this board with this ammount of hate and vitrol I will spew at the FO.

This whole team is redundant, same old story. crap offense waiting for derrick rose to save them

[Salo23]

This is a leak, IMO. GarPax will try to leverage the best trade possible and rightfully so.

[Mech Engineer]

If the Bulls are trying to get a 2014 first round pick, I think they plan to have three picks and combine two of them to move up or combine one pick + another guy like Butler, Snell to move up. That is something which falls into the strengths of GarPax.