Taj will recruit. He'll be at Melo meeting (with Noah)

[dice]

Rose is really looking like a diva ...

so long as he plays well enough to justify it

[Proven_Winner]

No doubt about it like I said yesterday if we don't land Melo I put it more on Rose then Gar/Pax.....which I got killed for saying

Im a BULLS fan first not a Rose fan first and what Rose is doing is not helping the bulls at ALL....So I will be one of those people who would want him out of here

So if we do get Melo will you be going to give Rose a hug?

Nope I will continue to praise Gar/Pax for the great work they have done with so little they have these past seasons with Rose going down and I will also give credit to Noah Thibs and Taj

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You must really hate Rose.

[MalikJoakim24]

wow some of you guys will certainly go out of your way to bash Rose, he has nothing to do with this FA period, Melo is closer to Taj and Jo since they're all from New York. Plain and simple explanation.

He's the superstar player and the face of the organization... He has everything to do with this FA period...

[Googjob]

Will it be January or February when Reggie Rose cries that his brother doesn't have enough help?

[Rerisen]

I share that worry to some extent, although on the other hand, if there are multiple other teams with capspace that could sign Melo outright, we wouldn't have to have capspace ourselves to get him. We would just need to beat those other teams' S&T offers. Sounds as if the best we could do, without offering Taj, would be something like Mirotic, future draft pick, Dunleavy, and perhaps Butler if we're willing to give him up. Maybe McDermott, if Phil likes him.

If Melo values another team beside Chicago over NY as well, then yes.

Or is at least willing to bluff that he does, and is willing to live with the consequences of that bluff becoming a reality worse case.

The sticky issue is that to this point, he's never given the impression that he's out and out leaving NY no matter what, like Kevin Love is doing say with Minny.

So yeah, Melo can say, "Please work out a S&T with Chicago - or I'm going to Dallas, or Houston." But its a less confident position for us for sure, noting the Dwight example.

[MGB8]

Going back over the details, I actually don't think Taj ruins the Bulls leverage. I think 18 is a serious offer - enough to make NY blink - but it does require the Bulls gutting the team and trading away small salaries for 2nd rounders (no biggie) and Jimmy Butler for whatever you could get for him (top 7 protected first?).

The conversation would be about - ok, assuming that NY is unwilling to do a sign and trade, are you willing to come in at 16 so that we can keep Jimmy and reduce the perimiter defensive load? I wouldn't be shocked if Melo was.

Look at what Lebron, and in particular, Wade and Bosh are doing.

[killacalijatt]

If Boozer is amnestied and Butler/Snell/Dunleavy/Randolph are sent for pure capspace. Chicago could still offer Melo a contract starting at $20M/Year.

Rose
who cares
Melo
Taj
Noah
plus $8MTPE to work with.

Nope, Boozer amnesty does not all become cap space, much of it is sitting over the cap line.

To get up to 20 and beyond Taj has to go.

Arent Bulls at 63M? Minus Boozers 16M minus the rest puts Bulls somewere around 43M with the projected cap to beat $63?

[GMgoran]

I wish people stop bitching and moaning about Rose recruiting or not recruiting other players ... Chicago Bulls represent a respectable organization with significant success in the past and probably the best fan base in the league, so if a free agent needs some balls licking by our star player in order to convince him to join us, then he can f*ck off ...

[Droseisthe1]

I wish people stop bitching and moaning about Rose recruiting or not recruiting other players ... Chicago Bulls represent a respectable organization with significant success in the past and probably the best fan base in the league, so if a free agent needs some balls licking by our star player in order to convince him to join us, then he can f"ck off ...

[Magilla_Gorilla]

If Boozer is amnestied and Butler/Snell/Dunleavy/Randolph are sent for pure capspace. Chicago could still offer Melo a contract starting at $20M/Year.

Rose
who cares
Melo
Taj
Noah
plus $8MTPE to work with.

Nope, Boozer amnesty does not all become cap space, much of it is sitting over the cap line.

To get up to 20 and beyond Taj has to go.

Arent Bulls at 63M? Minus Boozers 16M minus the rest puts Bulls somewere around 43M with the projected cap to beat $63?

Bulls are at about 71 million salary after renouncing all exceptions.

[pb-ceo]

Rose basically ceding the leadership role for this team to Noah, weird. You'd think he'd want to step up and be a rep for his team but nope

or perhaps derrick is not the best spokesman for this team. communication is key.

[WinCity]

Maybe this is too awkward a scenario to realistically happen - having a player in the room who has to listen to trade scenarios involving him (albeit worst case scenarios) during the pitch. Taj is a team player, but is he that much of a team player? Would any of us be? Tough to say. But it's maybe not utterly fanciful. And, if handled just right, could be very persuasive.

Dude, that is quite possibly the most delusional thing I have ever read posted here. I mean there have been, and continue to be some whoppers...but wow. To even suggest Taj would come to the meeting to listen to a scenario where he gets traded to god knows where, in order to bring in Melo, and be ok with it? Seriously dude?! Thats crosses the line from being team player and sacrificing, to being totally suicidal.

It is complete and total fantasy my friend. Stop it. If Taj is at the meeting the only logical conclusion is the FO gave him a promise he was not getting traded. Period. Imagine the fallout if Taj was asked to come to the meeting and then found out as a result of said meeting he was getting traded, and went to the media with his complaints. That would ruin the FO's rep.

The only logical conclusion here is the FO has done the math on what they can offer Melo, while keeping Taj, and are ok going forward with that number.

[Polynice4Pippen]

Well Im going by his OWN words as of right now

But it was reported less than an hour ago. I guess continue on with your Rose Rampage Rant. I gave you something to show you that you might be channeling your anger wrong

Again reported

And again going by the words that came out of Rose mouth himself

But keep defending the man that has done so much for us the past 2 years...maybe Reggie will be in the office since you know he thinks Rose needs more help

Time to turn that frown upside down.

[pb-ceo]

Rose is really looking like a diva ...

so long as he plays well enough to justify it

play? what is this weird concept you speak of?

[Rerisen]

Arent Bulls at 63M?

68, not even counting cap holds.

[northbrookrich]

I wish people stop bitching and moaning about Rose recruiting or not recruiting other players ... Chicago Bulls represent a respectable organization with significant success in the past and probably the best fan base in the league, so if a free agent needs some balls licking by our star player in order to convince him to join us, then he can f*ck off ...

People are really missing the point here. Recruiting will have zero impact on a player's decision. However, being friends with other players might have an impact (at least as a tie-breaker with other things being equal). So, we really need to be honest with ourselves and what we are asking of Rose. It is not to be at the recruiting pitch or to lob a text over to some prospects. We need Rose to be on Team USA and building lasting friendships that could really impact players' decisions. Unfortunately, this isn't really part of his DNA. I thought Rose worked out in the offseason and was friendly with Love. If that is the case, then he is who Rose should be working on since there already is a relationship there.

This is not about sending a text or making a phone call. It is much bigger.

[coldfish]

He's got an agent he makes millions for..

Trust me, he knows the cap..

He doesn't know Chicago's intentions though. So unless we have fed him info prior, he may not know how limited of an offer we seem to be prepared to make.

The Bulls have been going hard with these lines of "We want (Melo - they cant say his name) on our terms" for weeks now. To come to find out they were never serious about clearing the decks if it came to that, would not be a shock.

They want the entire workload of the deal happening to be on Melo's graciousness, and bearing all the risk. It just looks like a big reach.

The same thing could be accomplished - even better - by the Bulls being the one to threaten the leap. That is actually more likely to produce the desired outcome, a S&T where everyone is happy.

Conspiracy theories:
- The Bulls only want Melo if he takes the paycut
- The Bulls have already discussed parameters of a sign and trade to the point where they know it isn't going to be a stumbling block.

[BeatDaCavs420]

So if we do get Melo will you be going to give Rose a hug?

Nope I will continue to praise Gar/Pax for the great work they have done with so little they have these past seasons with Rose going down and I will also give credit to Noah Thibs and Taj

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You must really hate Rose.

You act like this hate is out of no where give me a break

And please tell me if we get Melo why you would thank your precious rose or even give him any credit

[Land Rover]

wow some of you guys will certainly go out of your way to bash Rose, he has nothing to do with this FA period, Melo is closer to Taj and Jo since they're all from New York. Plain and simple explanation.

He's the superstar player and the face of the organization... He has everything to do with this FA period...

He hasn't played in 2 years, and if his recent comments are any indication, he's probably better off NOT talking

[Rerisen]

- The Bulls have already discussed parameters of a sign and trade to the point where they know it isn't going to be a stumbling block.

Entrance for my Mirotic to NY Euro-Spurs-Spanish triangle Phil rebuild.

Pau this year, Marc in 2015.