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Melo 16- If it's meant to be, it's meant to be

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Re: Melo 16- If it's meant to be, it's meant to be 

Post#201 » by kurtatx » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:04 pm

DerrickRose025 wrote:@ESPNNBA: Sources: Derrick Rose not involved in Bulls' pitch to Carmelo Anthony (via @Chris_Broussard).

http://t.co/raJ7HiDqKE http://t.co/dsLsCiofZG


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Broussard is such an idiot. This is all stuff we already knew. I'm sure Carmelo didn't watch Rose play or anything.
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Post#202 » by exospheer » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:04 pm

Anyone post this yet? Rose DID NOT recruit.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/ ... lo-anthony
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Post#203 » by Chitownbulls » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:04 pm

DerrickRose025 wrote:@ESPNNBA: Sources: Derrick Rose not involved in Bulls' pitch to Carmelo Anthony (via @Chris_Broussard).

http://t.co/raJ7HiDqKE http://t.co/dsLsCiofZG


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Aka he didnt go to the meetings? Melo saw him working out an they probably talked for a little bit? Who knows
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Post#204 » by RememberLu » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:05 pm

MoneyMitch wrote:I think Phil would prefer picks in a sign and trade and no long term salary that way he can package our expirings and picks for Kevin Love


Bulls fans would prefer that too tbh, rather give up picks than see Mirotic or Mcdermott go in a trade
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Re: Melo 16- If it's meant to be, it's meant to be 

Post#205 » by HoosierChiFan » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:05 pm

DerrickRose025 wrote:@ESPNNBA: Sources: Derrick Rose not involved in Bulls' pitch to Carmelo Anthony (via @Chris_Broussard).

http://t.co/raJ7HiDqKE http://t.co/dsLsCiofZG


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This is why everyone shouldn't believe everything that's reported.
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Re: Melo 16- If it's meant to be, it's meant to be 

Post#206 » by MoneyMitch » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:05 pm

ChiefILL53 wrote:
MoneyMitch wrote:Ugh do not want Mirotic in New York

He's good but I don't wanna guarantee salary for an unproven player in 2015


Well everybody has to be given a chance to prove themselves. We all gotta start somewhere right? lol


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Post#207 » by ah7007645 » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:06 pm

Lmfao so rose just walked by melo when he saw him in the UC. Totally believable.
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Post#208 » by Chitownbulls » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:06 pm

All i know is Rose was in the building at the same time Melo was.......they talked imo.
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Post#209 » by Sonny_D1 » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:06 pm

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organix85 wrote:And you feel free to rely on advanced metrics of a guy who visually got beaten badly by Aldridge which forced Howard to spend more time on him. Also, Jones won't have the advantage of always having Howard or Asik at his side all the time anymore. Believe what you will. Rockets have money to spend and they need a better PF way more than they need a better SF. Rockets score enough to not need a guy who can only score more than a guy who fills a position where they were abused at in the most recent playoff series.


Man, LMA abuses most PF's in this league in the low post. If you think Bosh on that Houston team would stop that you're fooling yourself. And who said Melo was a good fit for them anyway? No way Bosh brings anywhere near the upgrade you make it out to be when you consider age and price. His passive attitude and nonchalant ways of standing around at the 3 point line is exactly what that team doesn't need.

But yeah, give up on a 23 year old who put up a PER if 20 because he got "abused" by an all star PF.

Aldridge is good... but they rode him destroying Jones to go up 2-0 and steal both home games from Houston while he scored 89 points in 2 games. Aldgidge does not score 44.5 points a game on the road against "most PF's in this league in the low post". They basically almost lost the series right there. If Aldridge was scoring like 28 those games, it may not be a huge deal, but that's not the case. They gave up way more than they should have against Aldridge. The assignment didn't work and they had to switch it up to throw more Howard that way. And I don't believe for one second that Bosh would not have done a much better job than Jones. Bosh's advanced metrics would be great if he had Howard and Asik to fall back on.

As for the "for the price" stuff... It is a fact that they are looking to offer up a max. If you have it available, it's sort of a waste to not try to use it. You could probably also argue that "for the price", we shouldn't go after Melo cause we have McDermott. There are a number of guys available right now and their most glaring needs in my opinion are PF and PG. They have money to spend, so spend it. Championship windows are not long for most teams.

The context of the conversation that you butted into was this:

organix85 wrote:but Houston would be soooooooo much better off with Bosh instead of Melo

I think landing an all-star PF is most important given their strengths and needs so I think Bosh is a way better way to spend that money than Melo. So no one said Melo is a great fit... but you're arguing that Bosh isn't a good way to spend which means you must think there are much better options (of which they are only actively recruiting Melo). If Houston didn't have money to spend, I can see why you wouldn't bother forcing an upgrade at PF. But this is a superstar league and you're just missing how big a deal it really is to upgrade Jones to Bosh.

The 3 point stuff is just nonsense. It's pretty obvious he plays that way because the system in Miami. Bosh was not at all a 3 point shooter in Toronto... very different player all together. His offensive skill have been bastardized to fit the role that Miami wants with Wade and LeBron.

And no one is giving up on Jones. Did I say to dump the guy? He'd be the primary guy coming in off the bench with Asik gone. Do you not understand that? He'd be their Taj Gibson. Once Bosh's effectiveness is no longer greater, you start Jones. You just don't want to be forced to start Jones cause you lack options. He's obviously not 100% ready to be a championship PF. Thankfully, you aren't a GM. Cause I would think all this explanation of that is not even a necessity.


Are you done? And thankfully you aren't a GM either. Clearly, Jones isn't going to get any better. And you want to have a 20 PER player come off the bench until he's 27. And somehow giving a 31 year old PF that's merely a slight upgrade defensively and does nothing but stand behind the 3 point line a near max contract is a smart move. Oh and LMA's performance was all on Jones. Right. Never mind the other guys that are too lazy to play defense. The breakdown of their defense on on penetration had absolutely nothing to do with LMA's performance. It was all on Jones.

Anyway, I don't care about Houston and I no longer care about this conversation either. Good day and happy 4th to you sir.
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Post#210 » by BahamaBull » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:07 pm

Do not believe in alex kennedy...thats all i have to say...ohh one more thing...thanks Derrick :)


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Post#211 » by MoneyMitch » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:08 pm

exospheer wrote:Anyone post this yet? Rose DID NOT recruit.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/ ... lo-anthony


I don't buy this at all
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Post#212 » by Benedict Miller » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:08 pm

Rose was working out when Melo stopped by, makes sense.
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Post#213 » by The Kane » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:09 pm

exospheer wrote:Anyone post this yet? Rose DID NOT recruit.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/ ... lo-anthony


According to that, the FO didn't even ask Rose to recruit, and Rose had no idea Melo was meeting with the Bulls that day. I'm not buying it.
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Post#214 » by -Illmatic- » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:09 pm

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Chitownbulls wrote:Mirotic is going to get traded! I can feel it! Bulls playing dumb like we didnt know Mirotic was coming

I like this move regardless of whether or not it brings Anthony to Chicago.


Isn't this a significant look into the Bulls mindset that they are preparing to move to Plan B? It may be reading too much into things, perhaps, but this could also indicate their confidence level in landing Anthony.

What's puzzling to me is that, if I were Chicago, I'd be on the phone right now with Minnesota. I don't like the idea of simply resigning a few of our own - Augustin/Hinrich, and maybe adding a couple other veteran role players. Yes, if Rose is healthy, this is a 50 win team and maybe the 2nd best team in the East, but we already know how the story ends. I think another superstar is needed here, and Love would be the guy I zero in on.


I don't think Mirotic has much value to the T-Wolves because of the uncertainty of him signing there. If we can bring him over here, he might be the best prospect available for Love come the deadline.
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Post#215 » by DerrickRose025 » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:11 pm

@Chris_Broussard: Sources: DRose was not part of Bulls' official recruitment of Melo. He just happened to b working out at UC. Was shocked to see Melo


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Re: Melo 16- If it's meant to be, it's meant to be 

Post#216 » by PMONSTER » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:12 pm

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exospheer wrote:Anyone post this yet? Rose DID NOT recruit.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/ ... lo-anthony


According to that, the FO didn't even ask Rose to recruit, and Rose had no idea Melo was meeting with the Bulls that day. I'm not buying it.


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Post#217 » by RyGuy24 » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:12 pm

TrippyTip wrote:
exospheer wrote:Anyone post this yet? Rose DID NOT recruit.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/ ... lo-anthony


According to that, the FO didn't even ask Rose to recruit, and Rose had no idea Melo was meeting with the Bulls that day. I'm not buying it.

My mom (literally) knew Melo was meeting with the Bulls Monday. No chance Rose, or someone in his posse, didn't.
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Re: Melo 16- If it's meant to be, it's meant to be 

Post#218 » by BullsFTW » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:12 pm

Broussard is such an idiot and will write up everything he hears. SMH
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Post#219 » by bullsnewdynasty » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:12 pm

"Derrick wasn't bothered that he wasn't a part of it," a source said. "He was just kind of shocked, like 'Man, I didn't get the memo.'"


LOL this guy is unbelievable. Says he's not going to recruit, Bulls don't plan to involve him, and then has the audacity to complain that he's out of the loop.
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Post#220 » by RememberLu » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:12 pm

DerrickRose025 wrote:@Chris_Broussard: Sources: DRose was not part of Bulls' official recruitment of Melo. He just happened to b working out at UC. Was shocked to see Melo


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soo...every single Bulls fan knew Melo would be coming but D.Rose didn't?

wow he really should check RealGM in that case

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