NBA Trade Thread

[MGB8]

Here's a "blow it up" combination of trades.

(1) Otto Porter and Satoransky and a lottery protected future first (2021) to the Sixers for Tobias Harris.

Why for the Sixers? Harris is a 4 being forced to play the 3 on an oversized team, and on an awful contract (particularly if he isn't going to be the offensive focal point). Porter (who will eventually get healthy again this season) is a better fit for what they Tobias to be and gets them out of the Harris contract, while Sato gives them needed depth 1-3 and shooting, without needing to be a primary offensive player. And they get a protected future first to make up for the two picks they sent out to get Tobias (one which was their own, lottery protected, so not much, and the 2021 Miami pick which also looks like a pick in the 20s...).

Why for the Bulls? Harris is young and while his contract is still bad, he'll look much better at the 4.

(2) Lauri Markkanen for Cameron Johnson.

Why for the Suns? Saric may or may not stay, and might be falling out of favor. Cam Johnson is somewhat duplicative with Mikal Bridges, and Kelly Oubre has a hold on the starting job, regardless. Markannen should have higher upside, played college ball in Arizona, and could be a long term piece for the Suns.

Why for the Bulls? The Lauri experiment looks to have failed in Chicago - a fresh start for him may be best for both teams. Meanwhile, Coby White has played with, and loves, Cam Johnson, and he fits the 3&D need.

(3) Thad Young to Miami for Meyers Leonard and Okpala.

Why for Miami? They are in win-now mode, and Thad is better than Leonard, plus Olynyk gives them the depth they need at the 5.

Why for Chicago? They get out of Thad's contract, and Leonard gives them more 4/5 versatility, Okpala is a young guy with talent on a cheap deal who isn't playing for Miami.

New Bulls Roster:

PG: White, Dunn, Archi
SG: LaVine, Harrison, (White/Dunn/Valentine), Strus/Makoka
SF: C.JOHNSON, Hutchinson, Valentine
PF: T.HARRIS, KZ OKPALA, (Hutchinson), (M.LEONARD)
CC: Carter Jr., M.LEONARD, Gafford, Kornett

[sco]

Here's a "blow it up" combination of trades.

(1) Otto Porter and Satoransky and a lottery protected future first (2021) to the Sixers for Tobias Harris.

Why for the Sixers? Harris is a 4 being forced to play the 3 on an oversized team, and on an awful contract (particularly if he isn't going to be the offensive focal point). Porter (who will eventually get healthy again this season) is a better fit for what they Tobias to be and gets them out of the Harris contract, while Sato gives them needed depth 1-3 and shooting, without needing to be a primary offensive player. And they get a protected future first to make up for the two picks they sent out to get Tobias (one which was their own, lottery protected, so not much, and the 2021 Miami pick which also looks like a pick in the 20s...).

Why for the Bulls? Harris is young and while his contract is still bad, he'll look much better at the 4.

(2) Lauri Markkanen for Cameron Johnson.

Why for the Suns? Saric may or may not stay, and might be falling out of favor. Cam Johnson is somewhat duplicative with Mikal Bridges, and Kelly Oubre has a hold on the starting job, regardless. Markannen should have higher upside, played college ball in Arizona, and could be a long term piece for the Suns.

Why for the Bulls? The Lauri experiment looks to have failed in Chicago - a fresh start for him may be best for both teams. Meanwhile, Coby White has played with, and loves, Cam Johnson, and he fits the 3&D need.

(3) Thad Young to Miami for Meyers Leonard and Okpala.

Why for Miami? They are in win-now mode, and Thad is better than Leonard, plus Olynyk gives them the depth they need at the 5.

Why for Chicago? They get out of Thad's contract, and Leonard gives them more 4/5 versatility, Okpala is a young guy with talent on a cheap deal who isn't playing for Miami.

New Bulls Roster:

PG: White, Dunn, Archi
SG: LaVine, Harrison, (White/Dunn/Valentine), Strus/Makoka
SF: C.JOHNSON, Hutchinson, Valentine
PF: T.HARRIS, KZ OKPALA, (Hutchinson), (M.LEONARD)
CC: Carter Jr., M.LEONARD, Gafford, Kornett

I'd do the Harris trade in a second...he'd be perfect.

I wouldn't give up on Lauri this season. I think his upside outweighs what we can get in trade now.

I don't think Miami would think Thad is better (for them) than Leonard, and I'd rather give Gafford some development this season.

[weneeda2guard]

i think we should give up on lauri this year. next season is the final season on his deal. we dont need a situation where he balls out next year, some team tosses him a ton of cash, and we are almost forced to match the deal or lose him for nothing, with the justification being we can use him as a asset, which never works and it becomes more difficult to trade him with all that money attached. trying to trade him next season also gets more difficult as other teams will know he as an impending deal coming up and other front offices dont want to have to deal with that same circumstance.

right now with a year left on lauri deal we can get max return for lauri while he still has some kind of trade value. we can possibly still get a 1st rd pick and possibly a young prospect in return for lauri. if we give lauri a deal, and then find out he trash, it will be a immovable contract that we are stuck with that we would have to settle for a low pick, and take another contract back to move him. so moving lauri now, while we can get the best return is smart. we cant keep holding onto players long and ending up with mediocre return. this happened with deng, niko, mcdermott, portis, we keep these guys too long and dont maximize the return. would be good to finally sell high on a prospect and cash out well.

[Jiipee84]

i think we should give up on lauri this year. next season is the final season on his deal. we dont need a situation where he balls out next year, some team tosses him a ton of cash, and we are almost forced to match the deal or lose him for nothing, with the justification being we can use him as a asset, which never works and it becomes more difficult to trade him with all that money attached. trying to trade him next season also gets more difficult as other teams will know he as an impending deal coming up and other front offices dont want to have to deal with that same circumstance.

right now with a year left on lauri deal we can get max return for lauri while he still has some kind of trade value. we can possibly still get a 1st rd pick and possibly a young prospect in return for lauri. if we give lauri a deal, and then find out he trash, it will be a immovable contract that we are stuck with that we would have to settle for a low pick, and take another contract back to move him. so moving lauri now, while we can get the best return is smart. we cant keep holding onto players long and ending up with mediocre return. this happened with deng, niko, mcdermott, portis, we keep these guys too long and dont maximize the return. would be good to finally sell high on a prospect and cash out well.

What is that max return for Lauri right now.
I hate to say this but get real please.
Lauri's trade value is low as cows-tail.

And only reasonable return will be 2nd round pick and roleplayer like Ryan Anderson or Channing Frye.
Not a single-minded NBA GM certainly will not give for Bulls 1st round picks and potential superstar prospect like Doncic
or Zion or Ja Morant one under-performing and phlegmatic PF what Markkanen is right now.

[weneeda2guard]

i think we should give up on lauri this year. next season is the final season on his deal. we dont need a situation where he balls out next year, some team tosses him a ton of cash, and we are almost forced to match the deal or lose him for nothing, with the justification being we can use him as a asset, which never works and it becomes more difficult to trade him with all that money attached. trying to trade him next season also gets more difficult as other teams will know he as an impending deal coming up and other front offices dont want to have to deal with that same circumstance.

right now with a year left on lauri deal we can get max return for lauri while he still has some kind of trade value. we can possibly still get a 1st rd pick and possibly a young prospect in return for lauri. if we give lauri a deal, and then find out he trash, it will be a immovable contract that we are stuck with that we would have to settle for a low pick, and take another contract back to move him. so moving lauri now, while we can get the best return is smart. we cant keep holding onto players long and ending up with mediocre return. this happened with deng, niko, mcdermott, portis, we keep these guys too long and dont maximize the return. would be good to finally sell high on a prospect and cash out well.

What is that max return for Lauri right now.
I hate to say this but get real please.
Lauri's trade value is low as cows-tail.

And only reasonable return will be 2nd round pick and roleplayer like Ryan Anderson or Channing Frye.
Not a single-minded NBA GM certainly will not give for Bulls 1st round picks and potential superstar prospect like Doncic
or Zion or Ja Morant one under-performing and phlegmatic PF what Markkanen is right now.

Yea but your idea of what I expect in return you went to the moon with the expectation. Lol

You literally posted players that are untouchable by those franchises. They not trading them for anyone.

But you could maybe get a Kevin Knox, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, level of players and they might attach a pick with them. A promising young prospect and a pick is still possible imo. Wait too long though and we wont be able to get anything back for lauri but late 1st rd picks and poor prospects on the Cameron Payne level.

[RakimAbdulJabar]

Here's a "blow it up" combination of trades.

(1) Otto Porter and Satoransky and a lottery protected future first (2021) to the Sixers for Tobias Harris.

Why for the Sixers? Harris is a 4 being forced to play the 3 on an oversized team, and on an awful contract (particularly if he isn't going to be the offensive focal point). Porter (who will eventually get healthy again this season) is a better fit for what they Tobias to be and gets them out of the Harris contract, while Sato gives them needed depth 1-3 and shooting, without needing to be a primary offensive player. And they get a protected future first to make up for the two picks they sent out to get Tobias (one which was their own, lottery protected, so not much, and the 2021 Miami pick which also looks like a pick in the 20s...).

Why for the Bulls? Harris is young and while his contract is still bad, he'll look much better at the 4.

(2) Lauri Markkanen for Cameron Johnson.

Why for the Suns? Saric may or may not stay, and might be falling out of favor. Cam Johnson is somewhat duplicative with Mikal Bridges, and Kelly Oubre has a hold on the starting job, regardless. Markannen should have higher upside, played college ball in Arizona, and could be a long term piece for the Suns.

Why for the Bulls? The Lauri experiment looks to have failed in Chicago - a fresh start for him may be best for both teams. Meanwhile, Coby White has played with, and loves, Cam Johnson, and he fits the 3&D need.

(3) Thad Young to Miami for Meyers Leonard and Okpala.

Why for Miami? They are in win-now mode, and Thad is better than Leonard, plus Olynyk gives them the depth they need at the 5.

Why for Chicago? They get out of Thad's contract, and Leonard gives them more 4/5 versatility, Okpala is a young guy with talent on a cheap deal who isn't playing for Miami.

New Bulls Roster:

PG: White, Dunn, Archi
SG: LaVine, Harrison, (White/Dunn/Valentine), Strus/Makoka
SF: C.JOHNSON, Hutchinson, Valentine
PF: T.HARRIS, KZ OKPALA, (Hutchinson), (M.LEONARD)
CC: Carter Jr., M.LEONARD, Gafford, Kornett

I’d be fine with the above BUT no way the Bulls should be giving up picks to the Sixers to take that contract. They’d need to be the ones sending some picks back

The rest I’m ok with, get it done

[Michael Jackson]

Here's a "blow it up" combination of trades.

(1) Otto Porter and Satoransky and a lottery protected future first (2021) to the Sixers for Tobias Harris.

Why for the Sixers? Harris is a 4 being forced to play the 3 on an oversized team, and on an awful contract (particularly if he isn't going to be the offensive focal point). Porter (who will eventually get healthy again this season) is a better fit for what they Tobias to be and gets them out of the Harris contract, while Sato gives them needed depth 1-3 and shooting, without needing to be a primary offensive player. And they get a protected future first to make up for the two picks they sent out to get Tobias (one which was their own, lottery protected, so not much, and the 2021 Miami pick which also looks like a pick in the 20s...).

Why for the Bulls? Harris is young and while his contract is still bad, he'll look much better at the 4.

(2) Lauri Markkanen for Cameron Johnson.

Why for the Suns? Saric may or may not stay, and might be falling out of favor. Cam Johnson is somewhat duplicative with Mikal Bridges, and Kelly Oubre has a hold on the starting job, regardless. Markannen should have higher upside, played college ball in Arizona, and could be a long term piece for the Suns.

Why for the Bulls? The Lauri experiment looks to have failed in Chicago - a fresh start for him may be best for both teams. Meanwhile, Coby White has played with, and loves, Cam Johnson, and he fits the 3&D need.

(3) Thad Young to Miami for Meyers Leonard and Okpala.

Why for Miami? They are in win-now mode, and Thad is better than Leonard, plus Olynyk gives them the depth they need at the 5.

Why for Chicago? They get out of Thad's contract, and Leonard gives them more 4/5 versatility, Okpala is a young guy with talent on a cheap deal who isn't playing for Miami.

New Bulls Roster:

PG: White, Dunn, Archi
SG: LaVine, Harrison, (White/Dunn/Valentine), Strus/Makoka
SF: C.JOHNSON, Hutchinson, Valentine
PF: T.HARRIS, KZ OKPALA, (Hutchinson), (M.LEONARD)
CC: Carter Jr., M.LEONARD, Gafford, Kornett

I’d be fine with the above BUT no way the Bulls should be giving up picks to the Sixers to take that contract. They’d need to be the ones sending some picks back

The rest I’m ok with, get it done

I wonder if Simmons will become available? He is looking like really bad max money right now.

[Jcool0]

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[Muzbar]

So I joined up years ago and barely post, but I read this board every day.

Anyways here's a couple of trade ideas I came up with.

Chicago:
Lauri

Portland:
Skal
Little

When Skal has been given minutes he seems to produce, plus he's a pretty decent shot blocker and then you take a chance on Little plus providing a wing player.

Or

Chicago:
Lauri
Hutch

Denver:
Porter Jr.
Beasley
Morris

Lauri is injured all the time anyway so why not take a chance on Porter and throw him into the PF spot? Plus a good PG in Morris and another young prospect in Beasley. (I feel like Denver probably wouldn't accept this one).

[PrimzyBulls81]

Yep, Denver would hang up laughing for that one..

Cam Johnson - isnt he more a PF than SF anyway in todays NBA?

[scottyg]

I think we should somehow try and get Justice Winslow from Miami cuz I like the future starting lineup of

White
LaVine
Winslow
Markanan
Carter

I posted a 3 team trade on the trade board with the bulls getting Chris Paul, and Winslow and get rid of, Porter Jr, felicio, Dunn and Valentine

Paul/White /satoransky /arch
LaVine / white/ Satoransky
Winsolow / Hutchison
Markannan/ young
carter/ Gafford

Mix of young players and a couple veteran leaders and can compete and grow, and Chris Paul would help boyland a ton !

[MrSparkle]

I hate how the Bulls get themselves regularly in these “trade-less” scenarios and dead ends, but here we are again.

They overpay for menial bargain bin players. I guess Thad and Sato can help a contender, but no contender with a normal payroll wants these guys at $12m. They’re playing like waiver pickups (Ilyasova, Belinelli, etc.).

Then the rookies are total buy-low candidates. No one’s giving up guaranteed quality for Lauri or Wendell.

Zach and Coby are the best pieces and no smart team would overpay for either.

Otto might sit out most this season until April to earn himself a good 4y contract.

All starts with a terrible coach who can’t get 1 guy on this team to play comfortable laid back basketball.

Then it’s enhanced by non tradeable deadweight like Valentine and Felicio.

Ugh

[ArtMorte]

I think we should somehow try and get Justice Winslow from Miami...

I mean, I'm as down about this season as the next guy, but, man.... I don't know what to say.

[MrSparkle]

One trade concept that might be worth thinking, if resigning Lauri long-term doesn’t sound appealing (which it isn’t), is using him in a massive cap dump.

Lauri, Felicio, Thad, Valentine to MEM for Iguodala, Crowder, two 2nd rd picks

That’s $30m+ off the books.

Fire Boylen. Hire a good player coach like T. Lue. Build good vibes with Iguodala. Entice Anthony Davis in free agency. Bit of a risk but if the Lakers flame out (which they will with Lebron and Green being 35), AD is gonna have to weigh his winning options.

[StephenAA]

So I joined up years ago and barely post, but I read this board every day.

Anyways here's a couple of trade ideas I came up with.

Chicago:
Lauri

Portland:
Skal
Little

When Skal has been given minutes he seems to produce, plus he's a pretty decent shot blocker and then you take a chance on Little plus providing a wing player.

Or

Chicago:
Lauri
Hutch

Denver:
Porter Jr.
Beasley
Morris

Lauri is injured all the time anyway so why not take a chance on Porter and throw him into the PF spot? Plus a good PG in Morris and another young prospect in Beasley. (I feel like Denver probably wouldn't accept this one).

*
Understatement !

And it's now with this team you stick your head out?

AA

[Muzbar]

So I joined up years ago and barely post, but I read this board every day.

Anyways here's a couple of trade ideas I came up with.

Chicago:
Lauri

Portland:
Skal
Little

When Skal has been given minutes he seems to produce, plus he's a pretty decent shot blocker and then you take a chance on Little plus providing a wing player.

Or

Chicago:
Lauri
Hutch

Denver:
Porter Jr.
Beasley
Morris

Lauri is injured all the time anyway so why not take a chance on Porter and throw him into the PF spot? Plus a good PG in Morris and another young prospect in Beasley. (I feel like Denver probably wouldn't accept this one).

*
Understatement !

And it's now with this team you stick your head out?

AA

Haha, yeah I've never been much of a poster in regards to anything, particularly in my younger years when I created this account (I'm surprised I remembered the password), just had a couple of ideas I wanted to share plus they're still the Bulls so unfortunately I still root for them even when they're like this...

[LateNight]

plus they're still the Bulls so unfortunately I still root for them even when they're like this...

+1

[Herrdoktor33]

Underrated players I'd trade for:
-J. Brunson
-M.Kleber
-L.Nance Jr
-J. Clarkson
-R. Gay
-M.Morris
-A.Burcs

[Rose2Boozer]

Who says no?

Dunn and Felicio to the Kings for Dedmon

[Dan Z]

Who says no?

Dunn and Felicio to the Kings for Dedmon

Would the Kings be doing that to get out of Dedmon's contract?

Why do the Bulls want him? Are you thinking that the Bulls need a back up C?