Billy Donovan hired as next Bulls coach - Full coaching staff p43

[WindyCityBorn]

Personally, I am glad we finally got a head coach with head coaching experience after so long without one. I wouldn't have mind if we instead went for a established assistant coach with experience in the vein of Udoka or Unseld.

The last play of Game 7 against the Rockets left a bad taste in my for Billy Donovan but on paper he seems to be better than Hoiberg and Boylen. But it's interesting to see him coming here after having better teams on the table like Philly or Houston. Could mean that we paid the most or we are actually gonna be competing hard next season.

SEEMS to be better than Hoiberg or Boylen. Get some perspective.

[Repeat 3-peat]

Other than being in a awful Knicks uniform, this is our coach.

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[Chewie]

White privilege??

Here we go!

[weneeda2guard]

I also understand where everyone coming from with the assistants we were interviewing. But these guys were relative unknowns and no telling what they would have looked like as head coaches. Remember boylen looked better as a assistant too smh

We needed a guy with some pedigree and cache. Someone with a track record. And donovan has had more success than Atkinson. Not to mention its not a good look to get ran out of town when you have the makings of a superteam coming in Brooklyn. Says alot of the coach that the superstars ran him out. That wouldn't bold well in free.agency.

I agree except about boylen. He was an assistant with the rockets in the 90s and was an assistant under popovich for 2 years, other than that his assistant coach resume isn’t very good. Also when talking of his college head coaching experience at utah, i have heard of very few people who followed the team that have positive things to say of boylen. People liking his hiring as an associate head coach under hoiberg was based solely on his 2 years with the spurs. His coaching history is pretty awful overall.

Every coach who was a assistant under pop immediately had a stock raise as a student of one of the greatest. This reputation still stands til this day and this was def mentioned when talking about hiring of boylen. Add in the rep that boylen was the defensive genius behind hoiberg and the point still stands boylens rep was good as a assistant just as many of the guys we interviewed. But once he took the wheel he was clearly in over his head and this could have been the same with the assistants we were considering.

As far as guys with previous head coaching experience donovan has had much more success than Kenny although donovan has also coached much better players. Donovan has had humongous success in college as well. Donovan resume was much better which is why as he left great teams had him on their wish list. Wasn't like we were only squad considering him. Many in Philly fullu expected him to go there.

[kingkirk]

Some expanded thoughts:

- The right hire for the right time

- We're coming into year four of the rebuild. It's make or break for this 'core'. I prefer going the low risk, conservative route with an experienced guy rather than an untested assistant

- Last two Bulls hire have been bad coaches who had no HC experience in the NBA. I didn't want that risk again at such a critical point

- Guys like Unseld Jr., Ham, Craig, Udoka etc will probably be good HCs at some point. To me, I always wanted experience, which is why I had Atkinson as my preferred option. Donovan jumped to the top once he became available

- I don't think Donovan is an elite coach. He's probably closer to average than elite. But he's also the best coach this team has had in years. Give me competence

- Had this been year one of the rebuild, I would have been more into Unseld Jr., Ham etc. Coincidentally, those guys would be really good hires to take Donovan's post in OKC

- With AK and Eversley in place, we fans have a direct plug into the org via Woj. That didn't exist to this extent during GarPax. I like that

[MrSparkle]

I think the difference between the rebuilds is that Presti wants high picks and is willing to bottom out to do that. Even after drafting Durant he kept SEA/OKC at 20 wins for 2 seasons.

Denver never really bottomed out. AK has had success without getting multiple top 3 picks, the highest they drafted was #7.

The two execs may want to go different directions. Presti may want OKC to go down in wins, AK probably wants Chicago to go up in wins.

Well, OKC really positioned itself more like BOS after the Garnett/Pierce trade. They've got all these picks, and they lucked out with a better reg. season run than anticipated, but with CP3 and Gallo being past their primes, it makes no sense resigning Gallo and running that team back. I see why they're resetting hard. Plus GSW is coming back next year, and I think PHX is finally going to stop making me eat my opening-week words. Suns should finally be in the late-seed mix. POR will get some healthy bodies back. NOP and MEM are young, talented and hungry. Kings and Wolves were supposed to be good but I guess they continue their 15 year rebuilds - still talented. I guess SAS and OKC are the token tank teams to throw in the towel, and even they will have some talent. Coupled with their small-market, a full-scale tank makes sense in OKC.

I don't want to call Chicago a FA destination, but with a complete set of high-profile suits for the first time in forever, and just entirely too many young players on this team, I don't think it's crazy to look at a short-term goal of getting this team to improve internally, maybe doing a 2 steps forward, 3 steps back, and a great leap kind of a concept like Miami and Toronto.

[VolumePoster]

Does anyone know if this "training camp with scrimmages" will have anything televised? Or all the scrimmages intrasquad? In any case this hire got me too excited for the Bulls...now I'm fiending!

[WindyCityBorn]

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I'm laughing so hard...just keeps on gaming!

I'm not much of a gamer but I have played Call of Duty a few times back in the day.

Is it really necessary to pick up that many weapons?

He is is playing Warzone which is COD's battle royal mode so yes you will be constantly looking to upgrade or swap weapons.


Also why the Hell is he streaming on Facebook gaming? I would watch him on Twitch or YouTube. Not like he needs views to pay the bills though

[chicago paxsons]

I also understand where everyone coming from with the assistants we were interviewing. But these guys were relative unknowns and no telling what they would have looked like as head coaches. Remember boylen looked better as a assistant too smh

We needed a guy with some pedigree and cache. Someone with a track record. And donovan has had more success than Atkinson. Not to mention its not a good look to get ran out of town when you have the makings of a superteam coming in Brooklyn. Says alot of the coach that the superstars ran him out. That wouldn't bold well in free.agency.

I agree except about boylen. He was an assistant with the rockets in the 90s and was an assistant under popovich for 2 years, other than that his assistant coach resume isn’t very good. Also when talking of his college head coaching experience at utah, i have heard of very few people who followed the team that have positive things to say of boylen. People liking his hiring as an associate head coach under hoiberg was based solely on his 2 years with the spurs. His coaching history is pretty awful overall.

Every coach who was a assistant under pop immediately had a stock raise as a student of one of the greatest. This reputation still stands til this day and this was def mentioned when talking about hiring of boylen. Add in the rep that boylen was the defensive genius behind hoiberg and the point still stands boylens rep was good as a assistant just as many of the guys we interviewed. But once he took the wheel he was clearly in over his head and this could have been the same with the assistants we were considering.

As far as guys with previous head coaching experience donovan has had much more success than Kenny although donovan has also coached much better players. Donovan has had humongous success in college as well. Donovan resume was much better which is why as he left great teams had him on their wish list. Wasn't like we were only squad considering him. Many in Philly fullu expected him to go there.

Fair enough, i was just saying that if you ignore his 2 years with the spurs, the rest of his coaching tenure in the nba and college is poor even by veteran assistant coach standards at least from my point of view. I know college head coach experience isn’t a good barometer for nba success, but his utah stint was considered a failure with few, if any, positives.

Most coaches that don’t succeed from a competetive standpoint still often show an ability to benefit the team in some way, development of young talent, getting a team to play hard, getting the best out of role players, but boylen in his tenure before being the bulls head coach only showed defensive acumen, which is necessary, but isn’t enough to be a successful head coach.

[drosereturn]

Hmm the Bulls can offer Lavine plus 4 for Beal since he wants to play with Don. They add oladipo, AD, giannis, and they are a playoff team. Could add 1 more max after getting rid of giant expirings young, sato, felicio, dunn i think.

[Susan]

I am so damn excited.

Same.

Missed caring about the Bulls.

[HearshotKDS]

Sounds good to me!

[chicago paxsons]

Hmm the Bulls can offer Lavine plus 4 for Beal since he wants to play with Don. They add oladipo, AD, giannis, and they are a playoff team. Could add 1 more max after getting rid of giant expirings young, sato, felicio, dunn i think.

I’d rather have lavine and the 4 to be honest, beals very good, but being good on a bad team makes him look better than he is (i’m aware what i described fits lavine as well). As much as hiring donovan signals the bulls will try to win sooner than i thought they would, i still want the bulls to continue to aquire young assets.

[TheGOATRises007]

I'm laughing so hard...just keeps on gaming!

I'm not much of a gamer but I have played Call of Duty a few times back in the day.

Is it really necessary to pick up that many weapons?

He is is playing Warzone which is COD's battle royal mode so yes you will be constantly looking to upgrade or swap weapons.


Also why the Hell is he streaming on Facebook gaming? I would watch him on Twitch or YouTube. Not like he needs views to pay the bills though

I would think he got an exclusive deal to stream there.

[TheHrvReport]

I don't see them drafting any of the young prospects now with Billy Donovan on board. I think it's likely they trade the pick for a rotational piece or trade back and get someone like Toppin/Bey.

[wolffy]

This is great. BD has a great winning percentage and good rep wth players.

Now finally we can evaluate players and not wonder if its subpar coaching holding them back.

[MrFortune3]

Trying to find videos of Donovan's schemes and I came across this video

Offensively, I expect the exact opposite of this year's Atkinson/Houston style offense, which was 3 or layup and nothing in between.

Donovan:

“Everybody would like to have three things - they'd like to get a lot of free throws, like to get a lot of threes and a lot of layups,” Donovan stated. “Inevitably, you have to take what the defense gives you.”

Opposing defenses are trying to take those exact things away, as Donovan hinted, so the area of the floor the Thunder has optimized perhaps more than any team this year is the mid-range jump shot. The Thunder ranks fifth in overall field goal percentage (47.3 percent) thanks in part to shooting 47.6 percent on two-point jump shots, the highest figure in the league. By leveraging opposing defenses that are trying to prevent layups and three-pointers, the Thunder has optimized one thing NBA players love the most: open, uncontested shots.

If the Bulls wanted the complete opposite of our scheme this year, Donovan is probably as opposite as you get.

The return of mid range Zach is a good thing.

[MrFortune3]

I don't see them drafting any of the young prospects now with Billy Donovan on board. I think it's likely they trade the pick for a rotational piece or trade back and get someone like Toppin/Bey.

Why would the Bulls trade the #4 pick for a rotational player when they still don't have a fully set franchise player and outside of Zach they have no one who scares a defense or makes them respect them?

[Jcool0]

I don't see them drafting any of the young prospects now with Billy Donovan on board. I think it's likely they trade the pick for a rotational piece or trade back and get someone like Toppin/Bey.

So Donovan wont want to draft someone at 4, i assume because of the precieved weakness of the class? But will be okay trading back for Toppin/Bey? Because why exactly?

[MrFortune3]

I think the difference between the rebuilds is that Presti wants high picks and is willing to bottom out to do that. Even after drafting Durant he kept SEA/OKC at 20 wins for 2 seasons.

Denver never really bottomed out. AK has had success without getting multiple top 3 picks, the highest they drafted was #7.

The two execs may want to go different directions. Presti may want OKC to go down in wins, AK probably wants Chicago to go up in wins.

Well, OKC really positioned itself more like BOS after the Garnett/Pierce trade. They've got all these picks, and they lucked out with a better reg. season run than anticipated, but with CP3 and Gallo being past their primes, it makes no sense resigning Gallo and running that team back. I see why they're resetting hard. Plus GSW is coming back next year, and I think PHX is finally going to stop making me eat my opening-week words. Suns should finally be in the late-seed mix. POR will get some healthy bodies back. NOP and MEM are young, talented and hungry. Kings and Wolves were supposed to be good but I guess they continue their 15 year rebuilds - still talented. I guess SAS and OKC are the token tank teams to throw in the towel, and even they will have some talent. Coupled with their small-market, a full-scale tank makes sense in OKC.

I don't want to call Chicago a FA destination, but with a complete set of high-profile suits for the first time in forever, and just entirely too many young players on this team, I don't think it's crazy to look at a short-term goal of getting this team to improve internally, maybe doing a 2 steps forward, 3 steps back, and a great leap kind of a concept like Miami and Toronto.

It makes sense for OKC given they can get younger and cheaper while adding more talent and still having lower 1sts to add more talent. The picks OKC got are not going to be like when the Nets forked over their future and soul to Boston.
Clippers nor Rockets nor Heat will be bad enough for that.