OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins

[Jcool0]

Why'd Shanny choose Jimmy G over Watson/Mahomes?

And what are you doing in this thread talking about the Niners so much for? The entire Chicago Bears fanbase is more or less ecstatic about this trade/pick and nobody here cares about the Niners. Good luck keeping Jimmy healthy and good luck developing Lance. Maybe Kyle Shanahan can get close to .500 cause right now he's 6 games below.

He didnt. He thought he was going to sign Kirk Cousins. Then Jimmy G became available and then changed course and traded for him.

Waiting a year for Kirk Cousins just to pay him a massive contract? Is that any better?

Kyle drafted him in Washington. So he really believed you can win with him. IDK how much better that is. It just was the reason Shanahan didnt really scout Mahomes or Watson.

[CaPiTanAK]

The NFL scouts are still primarily flawed with racists. That’s how they miss so badly in D Watson and L Jackson. This time, the Bears have purged themselves of morons and finally drafted a player with L Jackson insane physical tools, and D Watson similar pedigree instead of the QB skin. The sky is the limit for this kid. Prioritize the line, and protect our future QB. I have a good feeling about this kid.

[WindyCityBorn]

Living in SF, I follow the Niners quite closely, and they are a well run organization. But you have to admit, they also just a few years ago were convinced Jimmy G. was a franchise QB and paid him accordingly. A contract they would now be glad to get rid of.I think they really went out on a limb with this pick, with how much they gave up to get him. And apparently it was a decision only made in the last week or even few days. Its like having your mind made up to get the mid-size sedan, arriving at the showroom and seeing a glitzy sports car on the lot, and deciding, "hey, that looks awfully nice too". Who knows how this will turn for both teams, but I feel a lot more confident in what the Bears did than the Niners. Esp. because just a few years ago, it was the Niners that looked like they had fleeced the Bears in trading with them to move up to get Mitch, which we know now was a colossal blunder.

The 49ers have no intention of trading Jimmy so you are wrong from the start. Saying they would love to get rid of his contract is ludicrous. Barring injury he will start every single game next season and we will be position to win the NFC. We have the luxury of essentially redshirting Lance.

And you are very wrong about when the decision was made. They said it was Lance from the start and they just let media run with the Mac Jones narrative. They have been in love with Lance from the start. I never believed they were dumb enough to trade up to #3 for freaking Mac Jones. Maybe you should watch the interview with Lynch and Shanahan after day one of the to see what they had to say about the pick.

Why'd Shanny choose Jimmy G over Watson/Mahomes?

And what are you doing in this thread talking about the Niners so much for? The entire Chicago Bears fanbase is more or less ecstatic about this trade/pick and nobody here cares about the Niners. Good luck keeping Jimmy healthy and good luck developing Lance. Maybe Kyle Shanahan can get close to .500 cause right now he's 6 games below.

Your Bears suck now and traditionally . Bears are joke compared to the 49ers now and historically. It’s cute you think that is about to change because you drafted Fields. Let’s bet our accounts the 49ers make the playoffs and Bears don’t since you are so cocky!

Btw Jimmy had us one quarter away from a Super Bowl win. No regrets on his choice. He just drafted the most physically gifted QB in the draft and possibly the smartest as well.

[Hold That]

The 49ers have no intention of trading Jimmy so you are wrong from the start. Saying they would love to get rid of his contract is ludicrous. Barring injury he will start every single game next season and we will be position to win the NFC. We have the luxury of essentially redshirting Lance.

And you are very wrong about when the decision was made. They said it was Lance from the start and they just let media run with the Mac Jones narrative. They have been in love with Lance from the start. I never believed they were dumb enough to trade up to #3 for freaking Mac Jones. Maybe you should watch the interview with Lynch and Shanahan after day one of the to see what they had to say about the pick.

Why'd Shanny choose Jimmy G over Watson/Mahomes?

And what are you doing in this thread talking about the Niners so much for? The entire Chicago Bears fanbase is more or less ecstatic about this trade/pick and nobody here cares about the Niners. Good luck keeping Jimmy healthy and good luck developing Lance. Maybe Kyle Shanahan can get close to .500 cause right now he's 6 games below.

Your Bears suck now and traditionally . Bears are joke compared to the 49ers now and historically. It’s cute you think that is about to change because you drafted Fields. Let’s bet our accounts the 49ers make the playoffs and Bears don’t since you are so cocky!

Bears can be a joke but when the bears are just average we’ll get more national coverage than the 49ers will ever get. That’s just a fact, I know that burns your soul. The only teams that get more love globally you could argue is the packers and cowboys. Nobody cares about the 49ers Seahawks rivalry hell most don’t even know they are rivals.

You guys just traded the farm for a college player in one of the weakest conferences in college football, and had ONE good season.

[WindyCityBorn]

Why'd Shanny choose Jimmy G over Watson/Mahomes?

And what are you doing in this thread talking about the Niners so much for? The entire Chicago Bears fanbase is more or less ecstatic about this trade/pick and nobody here cares about the Niners. Good luck keeping Jimmy healthy and good luck developing Lance. Maybe Kyle Shanahan can get close to .500 cause right now he's 6 games below.

Your Bears suck now and traditionally . Bears are joke compared to the 49ers now and historically. It’s cute you think that is about to change because you drafted Fields. Let’s bet our accounts the 49ers make the playoffs and Bears don’t since you are so cocky!

Bears can be a joke but when the bears are just average we’ll get more national coverage than the 49ers will ever get. That’s just a fact, I know that burns your soul. The only teams that get more love globally you could argue is the packers and cowboys. Nobody cares about the 49ers Seahawks rivalry hell most don’t even know they are rivals.

49ers are football royalty along with Dallas, Pittsburgh, Green Bay and New England. Bears will never be more popular unless you become the next dynasty or something. Every time we go down bounce back strong. Never prolonged irrelevance.

I actually like the Bears, but you all might change opinion if you keep talking unnecessary trash about my team. Comparing Lance to Trubisky. Worry about your own players.

[Hold That]

Your Bears suck now and traditionally . Bears are joke compared to the 49ers now and historically. It’s cute you think that is about to change because you drafted Fields. Let’s bet our accounts the 49ers make the playoffs and Bears don’t since you are so cocky!

Bears can be a joke but when the bears are just average we’ll get more national coverage than the 49ers will ever get. That’s just a fact, I know that burns your soul. The only teams that get more love globally you could argue is the packers and cowboys. Nobody cares about the 49ers Seahawks rivalry hell most don’t even know they are rivals.

49ers are football royalty along with Dallas, Pittsburgh, Green Bay and New England. Bears will never be more popular unless you become the next dynasty or something. Every time we go down bounce back strong. Never prolonged irrelevance.

I actually like the Bears, but you all might change opinion if you keep talking unnecessary trash about my team. Comparing Lance to Trubisky. Worry about your own players.

The 49ers are not apart of the original 8, you won’t see them on anyone’s list as one of the most popular teams. We all have Google. And nobody cares about Trubisky, he’s a Bill now.

[Dresden]

49ers are run WAY better than the Bears(and have always been better for the most part, have a way better roster, a pretty good QB that has taken us to the Super Bowl recently. If Lynch and Shanahan didn’t want Fields I trust their judgement. They know QBs. We have the prefect situation to let a QB sit a grow. Fields will probably get thrown to the wolves because Dalton is a joke.

An outrageous amount of injuries are literally the only reason we were not contenders last season. We are very equipped to take a project with the highest ceiling in the draft and have the coaching to get it out of him. Cannot say the same for the Bears coaching.

Living in SF, I follow the Niners quite closely, and they are a well run organization. But you have to admit, they also just a few years ago were convinced Jimmy G. was a franchise QB and paid him accordingly. A contract they would now be glad to get rid of.I think they really went out on a limb with this pick, with how much they gave up to get him. And apparently it was a decision only made in the last week or even few days. Its like having your mind made up to get the mid-size sedan, arriving at the showroom and seeing a glitzy sports car on the lot, and deciding, "hey, that looks awfully nice too". Who knows how this will turn for both teams, but I feel a lot more confident in what the Bears did than the Niners. Esp. because just a few years ago, it was the Niners that looked like they had fleeced the Bears in trading with them to move up to get Mitch, which we know now was a colossal blunder.

The 49ers have no intention of trading Jimmy so you are wrong from the start. Saying they would love to get rid of his contract is ludicrous. Barring injury he will start every single game next season and we will be position to win the NFC. We have the luxury of essentially redshirting Lance.

And you are very wrong about when the decision was made. They said it was Lance from the start and they just let media run with the Mac Jones narrative. They have been in love with Lance from the start. I never believed they were dumb enough to trade up to #3 for freaking Mac Jones. Maybe you should watch the interview with Lynch and Shanahan after day one of the to see what they had to say about the pick.

I don't think you or anyone outside of the Niner's brass knows whether they wanted to trade Jimmy G or not, but just about every football writer in the business was speculating that he would be moved once they traded up in the draft. So it's pretty hard to say definitively that "they had no intention" of trading him.

And secondly, if they were so high on Jimmy G., why did they trade all of that away to draft his replacement? It's obvious they realize he's not what they wanted. He'll do for another year or two until Lance is ready, but as an organization, you don't invest that many resources in a position where you feel you are already set. There has been talk for awhile now in SF that Shanahan is unhappy with Jimmy G's limitations, and has been lobbying for a replacement.

[chicagoballer]

any thoughts about round 6 picks?

all unknowns to me...

Khalil Herbert - was not expecting a RB pick
Dazz Newsome and Thomas Graham Jr seem to fill team's positional needs

[Dresden]

https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Trey-Lance-49ers-Kyle-Shanahan-John-Lynch-draft-16144185.php

"The 49ers' reported process for drafting Trey Lance seems slightly odd"

[Dresden]

any thoughts about round 6 picks?

all unknowns to me...

Khalil Herbert - was not expecting a RB pick
Dazz Newsome and Thomas Graham Jr seem to fill team's positional needs

The only thing I can think about when they pick a RB at that position is that they are usually very good athletes with speed, so are useful on special teams, as well as in the backfield.

[WindyCityBorn]

Bears can be a joke but when the bears are just average we’ll get more national coverage than the 49ers will ever get. That’s just a fact, I know that burns your soul. The only teams that get more love globally you could argue is the packers and cowboys. Nobody cares about the 49ers Seahawks rivalry hell most don’t even know they are rivals.

49ers are football royalty along with Dallas, Pittsburgh, Green Bay and New England. Bears will never be more popular unless you become the next dynasty or something. Every time we go down bounce back strong. Never prolonged irrelevance.

I actually like the Bears, but you all might change opinion if you keep talking unnecessary trash about my team. Comparing Lance to Trubisky. Worry about your own players.

The 49ers are not apart of the original 8, you won’t see them on anyone’s list as one of the most popular teams. We all have Google. And nobody cares about Trubisky, he’s a Bill now.

You are delusional. 49ers have way more fans than the Bears. Only Bears fans are people from Chicago.

[Dresden]

The 49ers have no intention of trading Jimmy so you are wrong from the start. Saying they would love to get rid of his contract is ludicrous. Barring injury he will start every single game next season and we will be position to win the NFC. We have the luxury of essentially redshirting Lance.

And you are very wrong about when the decision was made. They said it was Lance from the start and they just let media run with the Mac Jones narrative. They have been in love with Lance from the start. I never believed they were dumb enough to trade up to #3 for freaking Mac Jones. Maybe you should watch the interview with Lynch and Shanahan after day one of the to see what they had to say about the pick.

Why'd Shanny choose Jimmy G over Watson/Mahomes?

And what are you doing in this thread talking about the Niners so much for? The entire Chicago Bears fanbase is more or less ecstatic about this trade/pick and nobody here cares about the Niners. Good luck keeping Jimmy healthy and good luck developing Lance. Maybe Kyle Shanahan can get close to .500 cause right now he's 6 games below.

Your Bears suck now and traditionally . Bears are joke compared to the 49ers now and historically. It’s cute you think that is about to change because you drafted Fields. Let’s bet our accounts the 49ers make the playoffs and Bears don’t since you are so cocky!

Btw Jimmy had us one quarter away from a Super Bowl win. No regrets on his choice. He just drafted the most physically gifted QB in the draft and possibly the smartest as well.

And the Bears were 12-4 one year with Mitch. Doesn't mean much. An elite defense and a great running game can take you a long ways.

[Bulliever2020]

49ers are football royalty along with Dallas, Pittsburgh, Green Bay and New England. Bears will never be more popular unless you become the next dynasty or something. Every time we go down bounce back strong. Never prolonged irrelevance.

I actually like the Bears, but you all might change opinion if you keep talking unnecessary trash about my team. Comparing Lance to Trubisky. Worry about your own players.

The 49ers are not apart of the original 8, you won’t see them on anyone’s list as one of the most popular teams. We all have Google. And nobody cares about Trubisky, he’s a Bill now.

You are delusional. 49ers have way more fans than the Bears. Only Bears fans are people from Chicago.

Guess which drafted QB was 2nd in jersey sales after Lawrence? Yep Fields, not Lance.

You're really trolling it up in here, huh?

[WindyCityBorn]

Living in SF, I follow the Niners quite closely, and they are a well run organization. But you have to admit, they also just a few years ago were convinced Jimmy G. was a franchise QB and paid him accordingly. A contract they would now be glad to get rid of.I think they really went out on a limb with this pick, with how much they gave up to get him. And apparently it was a decision only made in the last week or even few days. Its like having your mind made up to get the mid-size sedan, arriving at the showroom and seeing a glitzy sports car on the lot, and deciding, "hey, that looks awfully nice too". Who knows how this will turn for both teams, but I feel a lot more confident in what the Bears did than the Niners. Esp. because just a few years ago, it was the Niners that looked like they had fleeced the Bears in trading with them to move up to get Mitch, which we know now was a colossal blunder.

The 49ers have no intention of trading Jimmy so you are wrong from the start. Saying they would love to get rid of his contract is ludicrous. Barring injury he will start every single game next season and we will be position to win the NFC. We have the luxury of essentially redshirting Lance.

And you are very wrong about when the decision was made. They said it was Lance from the start and they just let media run with the Mac Jones narrative. They have been in love with Lance from the start. I never believed they were dumb enough to trade up to #3 for freaking Mac Jones. Maybe you should watch the interview with Lynch and Shanahan after day one of the to see what they had to say about the pick.

I don't think you or anyone outside of the Niner's brass knows whether they wanted to trade Jimmy G or not, but just about every football writer in the business was speculating that he would be moved once they traded up in the draft. So it's pretty hard to say definitively that "they had no intention" of trading him.

And secondly, if they were so high on Jimmy G., why did they trade all of that away to draft his replacement? It's obvious they realize he's not what they wanted. He'll do for another year or two until Lance is ready, but as an organization, you don't invest that many resources in a position where you feel you are already set. There has been talk for awhile now in SF that Shanahan is unhappy with Jimmy G's limitations, and has been lobbying for a replacement.

We obviously they are not thrilled with him. Not staying healthy is huge part of that. But make no mistake Jimmy is our guy for next season. We have the talent to contend again if we avoid the injuries. He has shown he is good enough to get us there. But he is game manager. We want a game changer at QB.

[WindyCityBorn]

The 49ers are not apart of the original 8, you won’t see them on anyone’s list as one of the most popular teams. We all have Google. And nobody cares about Trubisky, he’s a Bill now.

You are delusional. 49ers have way more fans than the Bears. Only Bears fans are people from Chicago.

Guess which drafted QB was 2nd in jersey sales after Lawrence? Yep Fields, not Lance.

You're really trolling it up in here, huh?

Who cares? Just shows how desperate Bears fans are for a good QB, Fields is household name from Ohio State and actually played this season. Again I’m happy for you all. Just leave my team out of it. You are not on our level. Period.

[Susan]

You are delusional. 49ers have way more fans than the Bears. Only Bears fans are people from Chicago.

Guess which drafted QB was 2nd in jersey sales after Lawrence? Yep Fields, not Lance.

You're really trolling it up in here, huh?

Who cares? Just shows how desperate Bears fans are for a good QB, Fields is household name from Ohio State and actually played this season. Again I’m happy for you all. Just leave my team out of it. You are not on our level. Period.

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One fluky year it looks like. What brought you into this thread? We're happy about Fields, Lance has nothing to do with us and nobody in Chicago cares about him. We care about Jimmy a bit because he's from the area but besides that the Bears and Niners have nothing to do with one another. Go troll elsewhere.

[fleet]

Most people had Jenkins as first round, and a lot had the Bears drafting him at 20. So giving up the third doesn’t seem so bad for this move.

Eh, I’m glad to have him, but there were other good Tackles on the board to where the move seems unnecessary. A third is a lot under the circumstances.

[dice]

The NFL scouts are still primarily flawed with racists. That’s how they miss so badly in D Watson and L Jackson. This time, the Bears have purged themselves of morons and finally drafted a player with L Jackson insane physical tools, and D Watson similar pedigree instead of the QB skin. The sky is the limit for this kid. Prioritize the line, and protect our future QB. I have a good feeling about this kid.

this is completely unsubstantiated, cherry-picked pablum. arguably racist itself. "why was daniel jones taken over haskins? racism!"

there are also many instances of black QBs being drafted highly and busting while white QBs taken later are successful. but you're not much interested in those examples, are you?

are front offices racist AGAINST white QBs because guys like brady and rodgers (and even kirk cousins) were passed over? while jamarcus russell and jameis winston were taken #1 overall? or because the uber-talented michael vick was taken #1 overall in the same draft that "try-hard, unathletic white kid" drew brees fell to the first pick of the second round?

you just claimed that the bears "purged themselves of morons" when the same guy who took trubisky over mahomes/watson traded up to take fields. did ryan pace somehow purge himself? utterly ridiculous take, to put it kindly

i've said it before and i'll say it again: the real issue with racism in quarterbacking starts at a young age. with athletic black kids who might be interested in playing QB being guided to positions like WR and secondary (where athleticism is more advantageous). and even that might be in large part due to ideas about the traditional, statuesque, tall, cannon-armed QB who excels at reading defenses more than about racism

[Susan]

Watch on YouTube

The RB we drafted in the 6th.

[NZB2323]

So I was hoping people in this thread would be talking about the Bears draft picks from today, but instead it’s 2 guys arguing about the Bears vs. the 49ers?

I like trading up to get a QB, trading up to get an offensive lineman, drafting another offensive lineman, and then finishing the draft off with RB, WR, CB, and NT.

Having an above average QB on a rookie salary who was taken out of the top 10 is a huge advantage in football because you have so much cap space. It was a huge advantage for Russel Wilson and hopefully it will be a huge advantage for us.

Justin Fields is big, fast, has a strong arm, is accurate, and can make extend the play and can make multiple reads. One scout say his biggest weakness is he won’t throw the ball unless his receiver is wide open. Considering the weaknesses other Bears QBs have had in the past, I’m okay with that being a biggest weakness.

We beat the Bucs last year with Nick Foles and a weak offensive line. Let’s see what we can do with Justin Fields and a strong offensive line.