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I really like Tari Eason, but think he’s gone by 18-20. If he’s there, he brings defense, intensity, have great size and massive hands.
If he’s somehow on the board, man that would be a steal.
I like Mark Williams a lot too. I’m impressed by his ball skills for a guy his size. He snags balls from the air and puts it back in the hoop in one motion. 7 footers don’t do that. And he looks freakishly long.
Really don’t want Agbaji or Sochan or Liddle.
Kind of liked Wendell Moore, but his combine measurements will be critical I think. Does he have additional length to make up for his height?
If he’s somehow on the board, man that would be a steal.
I like Mark Williams a lot too. I’m impressed by his ball skills for a guy his size. He snags balls from the air and puts it back in the hoop in one motion. 7 footers don’t do that. And he looks freakishly long.
Really don’t want Agbaji or Sochan or Liddle.
Kind of liked Wendell Moore, but his combine measurements will be critical I think. Does he have additional length to make up for his height?
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I'll say it's likely we keep the pick as I think AK's strength is drafting and finding quality players late in the draft. I also expect that he's opportunistic, in that he avoids drafting for need. Like Ayo, I think AK will find a solid upperclassman.

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Final pitch for Eason: He’s basically a little smaller, much more aggressive version of Pat. A ton of athleticism and length, and the guy loves to attack and oozes confidence. I’d easily trade Coby if it means moving up a couple spots to nab him. Shoots 6 free throw a game at 80%, meaning his shooting will be fine in the NBA IMO.
Run him behind Demar next year and in two years you’ll be running him and Pat side by side.
Run him behind Demar next year and in two years you’ll be running him and Pat side by side.
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What do we think of Jaden Ivey? Great speed and athleticism. Pretty exciting prospect. Seems like a raw iso player though. The top of this draft doesn’t seem very strong.
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sco wrote:I'll say it's likely we keep the pick as I think AK's strength is drafting and finding quality players late in the draft. I also expect that he's opportunistic, in that he avoids drafting for need. Like Ayo, I think AK will find a solid upperclassman.
At this point the Bulls have the number 18 pick. I think if they lose the next 2 games and Cleveland wins the next 2 games they will finish with the same record and then are a coin flip away from getting the 17th pick. Playoff success doesn’t impact draft position so even if they advance in the playoffs they are locked into whatever draft spot they get at the end of the regular season.
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Trade our 1st to the Magic for their 2 Second rounders projected to be #32 and #37. Take Oscar Tshiebwe as a backup 4/5 and add a guy like Caleb Houstan of Michigan (if he declares) who might be able to hit "3s" at the next level.
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Am2626 wrote:sco wrote:I'll say it's likely we keep the pick as I think AK's strength is drafting and finding quality players late in the draft. I also expect that he's opportunistic, in that he avoids drafting for need. Like Ayo, I think AK will find a solid upperclassman.
At this point the Bulls have the number 18 pick. I think if they lose the next 2 games and Cleveland wins the next 2 games they will finish with the same record and then are a coin flip away from getting the 17th pick. Playoff success doesn’t impact draft position so even if they advance in the playoffs they are locked into whatever draft spot they get at the end of the regular season.
I thought that if you are a playin team and you don't make the playoffs (even if you're in 7th place), you're in the lottery.

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sco wrote:Am2626 wrote:sco wrote:I'll say it's likely we keep the pick as I think AK's strength is drafting and finding quality players late in the draft. I also expect that he's opportunistic, in that he avoids drafting for need. Like Ayo, I think AK will find a solid upperclassman.
At this point the Bulls have the number 18 pick. I think if they lose the next 2 games and Cleveland wins the next 2 games they will finish with the same record and then are a coin flip away from getting the 17th pick. Playoff success doesn’t impact draft position so even if they advance in the playoffs they are locked into whatever draft spot they get at the end of the regular season.
I thought that if you are a playin team and you don't make the playoffs (even if you're in 7th place), you're in the lottery.
My scenario was that the Cavs win the playin game and make the playoffs. Yes you are right if a team with a worst record knocks them out then they would make the playoffs and make the Bulls draft position worst. It’s a moot point now because Cleveland lost to the Nets yesterday so they will finish with a worst record than the Bulls. The absolute best pick the Bulls can get now is 18 provided they lose to Minnesota tomorrow and Minnesota wins the playin game and gets in the playoffs.
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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Final pitch for Eason: He’s basically a little smaller, much more aggressive version of Pat. A ton of athleticism and length, and the guy loves to attack and oozes confidence. I’d easily trade Coby if it means moving up a couple spots to nab him. Shoots 6 free throw a game at 80%, meaning his shooting will be fine in the NBA IMO.
Run him behind Demar next year and in two years you’ll be running him and Pat side by side.
Seems out of our reach, and moving up this many spots isn’t cheap.
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Similar to Williams who after the tourney is probably going to go much higher than pre-tourney projections.
We should dream smaller, and/or get ready for disappointment if these are the main draft hopes and dreams.
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Wingy wrote:Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Final pitch for Eason: He’s basically a little smaller, much more aggressive version of Pat. A ton of athleticism and length, and the guy loves to attack and oozes confidence. I’d easily trade Coby if it means moving up a couple spots to nab him. Shoots 6 free throw a game at 80%, meaning his shooting will be fine in the NBA IMO.
Run him behind Demar next year and in two years you’ll be running him and Pat side by side.
Seems out of our reach, and moving up this many spots isn’t cheap.
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Similar to Williams who after the tourney is probably going to go much higher than pre-tourney projections.
We should dream smaller, and/or get ready for disappointment if these are the main draft hopes and dreams.
At 18, maybe we get some dude with funky issue like coming off an injury or oddball situation or a high quality upper classman. I'm not ever looking to draft for position after Coby and Doug, it almost never works out. If there is a stellar PG, there I'd take him anyway (but that's the last position I'd want).

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He has some skills, without a doubt. But he'd be a project. He's essentially a tall wing with streaky but mostly mediocre shooting from deep. He's doesn't lack confidence, and he plays with a bit of an edge from what I read. While I understand the whole "take the best player available" line of thinking we really need size inside. Our two worst positions this year were the "4" and the "5". Assuming Patrick stays healthy next year we still need someone off the bench. I'd love to add Oscar Tshiebwe if AK can trade for or buy a high second round pick. With our own pick I think we have to add Walker Kessler if he's still on the board. I would have preferred Mark Williams but he'll be gone by the time we pick. But unless we make a trade we have to try to draft a "5" to back up and eventually replace a rapidly declining Vooch.
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Man, I really don't want to use our draft pick on a role player like Kessler. I know we're desperate for rim protection and size, but that's the type of short-term thinking that will set you back.
I hope we roll the dice on upside, no matter the position.
I hope we roll the dice on upside, no matter the position.
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mlitney01 wrote:Man, I really don't want to use our draft pick on a role player like Kessler. I know we're desperate for rim protection and size, but that's the type of short-term thinking that will set you back.
I hope we roll the dice on upside, no matter the position.
Who, at #18, would merit "rolling the dice" on? Every player in this draft, even at the top, is a roll of the dice. Poor college shooting stats for the most part once you get beyond the Lottery. Athleticism without BBIQ, or good BBIQ with short wingspans or no jiggle to free themselves up offensively. Lots of one dimensional players. This is a weak draft beyond the top 4 or 5 players, and it's not a deep draft. Kessler may be a role player at the next level. But its a role we desperately need....rim protection. Kessler is one of the best shot blockers to come out of college in some time. He needs work on strength and extending his offensive game. But I'd bet he would miss fewer bunnies than Vooch. If there is a guard or wing with legitimate upside when we pick I say sure, go for it. But AK would need to acquire a high second rounder to add someone like Armando Bacot or Oscar Tshiebwe as a bench 4/5 THAT CAN ACTUALLY REBOUND and add some interior toughness. It's too bad Mark Williams will be gone before we pick. I think he would have been a perfect addition to back up Vooch next year then take over as the starting "5" in 2023-2024.
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Almost Retired wrote:mlitney01 wrote:Man, I really don't want to use our draft pick on a role player like Kessler. I know we're desperate for rim protection and size, but that's the type of short-term thinking that will set you back.
I hope we roll the dice on upside, no matter the position.
Who, at #18, would merit "rolling the dice" on? Every player in this draft, even at the top, is a roll of the dice. Poor college shooting stats for the most part once you get beyond the Lottery. Athleticism without BBIQ, or good BBIQ with short wingspans or no jiggle to free themselves up offensively. Lots of one dimensional players. This is a weak draft beyond the top 4 or 5 players, and it's not a deep draft. Kessler may be a role player at the next level. But its a role we desperately need....rim protection. Kessler is one of the best shot blockers to come out of college in some time. He needs work on strength and extending his offensive game. But I'd bet he would miss fewer bunnies than Vooch. If there is a guard or wing with legitimate upside when we pick I say sure, go for it. But AK would need to acquire a high second rounder to add someone like Armando Bacot or Oscar Tshiebwe as a bench 4/5 THAT CAN ACTUALLY REBOUND and add some interior toughness. It's too bad Mark Williams will be gone before we pick. I think he would have been a perfect addition to back up Vooch next year then take over as the starting "5" in 2023-2024.
Kessler is fine, but you really need 2-way players to compete for a championship. I love Liddell. He's already very polished on offense and can score from inside and outside. Plus he could be a versatile defender with the athleticism, foot speed(?), and size to guard multiple positions. Also a plus shot blocker for his size so he'll give you some rim protection and ability to recover against quicker guards. I think he'd be a great wing to put alongside Patrick for the next 10 years. He is a little older at 21, but he'd also be ready to contribute right away (much like Ayo).
Basically Liddell has a chance into developing into the kind of all-around player that gets a team to a championship level. Even if Kessler reaches his ceiling, I don't think he's ever that guy. I could be wrong, I'm not a college scouting expert or anything. Liddell also seems like much more of an AKME-type player, based on how they've built the roster so far.
Ideally, I'd like to trade Coby plus whatever assets for the rim protection. I know some people have mentioned Bamba, as an example.
After next season, I really like the versality of a starting lineup like:
PG: Ball
SG: Lavine
SF: Liddell
PF: Williams
C: Bamba
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Kris Murray (Keegan’s Twin Brother) is entering draft.
Would love him. Lefty that can shoot. Feels like he’s a year behind his brother developmentally. Once he fills in I think he can play backup C too.
Would love him. Lefty that can shoot. Feels like he’s a year behind his brother developmentally. Once he fills in I think he can play backup C too.
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Orlando Robinson. Will write a longer post about him later, but he's going to be a steal.
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HomoSapien wrote:Orlando Robinson. Will write a longer post about him later, but he's going to be a steal.
Never heard of such a person, but I'm eagerly awaiting your synopsis.
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Bulls will pick #18, won the tiebreaker over Minnesota:
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