OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF

[RondoToKG]

Worth discussing for sure.

The purported crime in this case is serious enough to follow this through to its entirety.

Really hoping that this is just someone wanting to be paid off quickly. I know that sounds misogynistic, but I really need to believe that Rose and his 20 Million are not going to jail.

Nope, that's not misogynistic that's just thinking rationally. Don't let the feminists confuse you.

[fleet]

Moral of the story, leave the skanks alone.

Never know what's in someone's heart. "Good girls" falsely accuse people as well.

I doubt that. Not women who have their **** together.

How much you want to bet this girl has no job, isn't going to school, clubs 3 nights a week on no income? She wears the skank uniform, she's a skank.

[truth18]

Worth discussing for sure.

The purported crime in this case is serious enough to follow this through to its entirety.

Really hoping that this is just someone wanting to be paid off quickly. I know that sounds misogynistic, but I really need to believe that Rose and his 20 Million are not going to jail.

Nope, that's not misogynistic that's just thinking rationally. Don't let the feminists confuse you.

Come on, man. That's not "thinking rationally", its thinking about a best case scenario for his Bulls should stuff go south/in general.

It might be misogynistic, but its unfortunately understandable that you feel that way. I just hope she is a bad person and lying because that would mean Rose is not a horrible person, and no one got raped.

Crossing my fingers for you guys. The lawyer stuff is promising imo, perhaps she's just throwing stuff at the wall, only thing I can go on right now, albeit I do not know a lot about law.

Don't let the fake feminists confuse you, but there are plenty of real ones doing great things. Bitches ain't nothing but beautiful people.

[Shill]

Moral of the story, leave the skanks alone.

Never know what's in someone's heart. "Good girls" falsely accuse people as well.

I doubt that. Not women who have their **** together.

Recently there was a story of a girl who went to Amherst (or one of the other little ivies), and falsely accused a guy of rape after SHE gave him a BJ while he was passed out. She'd been cheating on her BF, got embarrassed, then said she was assaulted. There were text messages proving she was lying, but at that point, the male student had already been expelled with no legal recourse.

[truth18]

Moral of the story, leave the skanks alone.

Never know what's in someone's heart. "Good girls" falsely accuse people as well.

I doubt that. Not women who have their **** together.

How much you want to bet this girl has no job, isn't going to school, clubs 3 nights a week on no income? She wears the skank uniform, she's a skank.

Oh they do dude, I know from personal experience. Anyone can be crazy and lie to hurt someone else.

That said, you're probably correct on her lifestyle, but that just makes this kind of ridiculous stuff (if it is indeed false) slightly more likely. I'm from Cambridge. Some of the worst women/people I have met are rich, successful, socially stable people. They're just sociopaths.

[Chicago Brawls]

Moral of the story, leave the skanks alone.

Never know what's in someone's heart. "Good girls" falsely accuse people as well.

I doubt that. Not women who have their **** together.

How much you want to bet this girl has no job, isn't going to school, clubs 3 nights a week on no income? She wears the skank uniform, she's a skank.

Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned

[DanTown8587]

Her case is going to be very hard to prove two years down the road so I'll reserve final judgment until her day in court with what evidence she has to name these things (and you have to remember that TMZ and her lawyer are making this "harder" on Derrick by having it in the news so even a settlement of like 250K goes a long way).

This does look more like a money grab than it does look like a trial for justice but we just never know anymore.

[fleet]

I must be the naive one then. I don't know how many women I know. Most have careers or raise kids as married woman. (Edit: or were married to the fathers or were very serious with the fathers) None have falsely accused men of rape.

[bullsRlife]

Seems like the Twitterverse agrees with most of the posters with common sense in here. Gonna come out and accuse him after a few years, and no criminal charges, just money. Sounds fishy to say the least.

[Risk Addict]

First off, I agree that rape is a very complicated crime from an emotional and legal perspective. The 2 year gap doesn't really surprise me. There are some things that do seem like red flags, although all conjecture:

- Why civil suit rather than criminal? If someone was truly raped, they would want to punish/humilliate the perp. How does financial compensation make you feel like anything but a high priced hooker? That is even more humiliating. Most rape victims I know have a tough decision to make.... let their "secret" out or keep it to themselves. Most DONT want to tell about them being a victim unless it protects potential future victims and the perp does some time in prison.
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- Why the escape? This seems like a story. How are 2 girls gonna be half-drugged and escape from 3+ guys in a mansion. How are they gonna drive home safely. If those guys are truly interested in raping them, they are not gonna let them out of their sight... This seems like an attempt to make the victim appear like a "fighter" or a protagonist. It doesn't logically fit with what most would assume would happen. Also, if she is truly his GF of 2 years, he probably has a key to her place, right? So even if he did go by there, it wouldn't be breaking and entering if he was given a key, would it?

-Why the gangbang? This *seems* out of character; I don't really understand why a popular athlete would "share" his GF with his close personal friends that see his GF all the time. To me that seems odd, but I'm not a popular athlete, so maybe i just don't get it... I wouldn't want to share my wife with the groomsmen from my wedding... Logically when I think about this claim, I see the following narrative. "Derrick, I'm gonna sue you for rape unless you give me money." "shut up, I was with Randall etc all night, you can't prove ****, they will back me up." "Not if I incriminate your whole crew. They have motive to lie if I tell them you were running a train on me. You really want to ruin our reputation and all your friends' reputations... just pay me sucker!" <-- that's how it makes sense to me, but obviously just a guess.

-How the hell was she so drugged that she was passed out in bed, but she could make multiple positive identifications of her rapers?

-The whole GF status... If she was his GF and then he gang raped her, there would be a fall out that would be documented. Texts, emails, rendezvous, etc. No one has an event like that and goes about their life like it didn't happen for 2 years treating the raper the exact same. You don't hook up with that person again... I bet if these allegations are false, Rose could hire 3 full time PIs and get all the evidence he needs to show that this accusation is false.

[dougthonus]

Seems impossible to believe she has any evidence to support her claim unless she had video taken that was simply not released. If she had rape kit testing done/police reports then my assumption is it would have come out long ago. That means whether guilty or innocent it seems unlikely to me that this goes anywhere.

[AirP.]

If this is a false accusation, is this the "legal" way of blackmailing money from someone(going through the legal system first instead of to the person). As a high profile person, just the accusation will hurt the accused and with that, it may be worth a certain amount of money to make this go away quickly.

I don't think the truth has much to do with it at this point(it would be hard to prove) but it just has to take some sort of doubt of what may have really happened to really hurt Rose publicly(and maybe personally).

[truth18]

I must be the naive one then. I don't know how many women I know. Most have careers or raise kids as married woman. None have falsely accused men of rape.

I know three. All career people, wealthy and successful in their craft and seemingly normal, nice people. One of them accused a gay guy (and a friend of mine), got him kicked out of her dance company, and ruined his career. I mentioned the other in my post on page six. Last one was an acquaintance but friends of mine confirmed that she wasn't raped.

I wasn't saying you're naive or anything against you at all. Just giving my experience. Perhaps I'm unlucky to have known such high class scum? Idk, but I certainly don't think this kind of thing, or general sociopathic behavior is isolated to the "skanks" in the projects, or wherever.



Such a **** situation. I really hope Rose can clear his name in the public somehow if he is being falsely accused. Probably too late for the immediate future. **** media, man. This sucks.

[InsideInfo]

I usually don't talk about this kind of stuff bc I don't want to sound like a dbag or a liar, but I will make an exception for this story.

I personally know Derrick and Randall (his friend accused of joining in on this) and in my mind there is absolutely no way this is true. Not even a slight chance.

I have hungout with Derrick and Randall while there was a girl sleeping in the other room and never once was anything like this ever discussed.

I've been at a party at derricks house, Randall was there as well....there were literally over 100 females there and less than 20 guys. Girls are throwing themselves at them...and me and they didn't even know who the hell I was. There is just no way this is true.

I also know 4-5 other very close friends of derricks....notably Tim flowers and a few lesser know guys in his crew. At no point ever, not once has anyone ever talked about "gangbangs" "trains" or anything of the sort.

This kind of story makes me sick. Some girl trying to get paid.

First and foremost I am not saying Rose is guilty your argument is this though.

I hate to reference Cosby again but I am pretty sure at parties he didn't have convehttp://www.amazon.com/Out-Bounds-Inside-Culture-Violence/dp/B000HWYLDSrsations about raping women. No,criminal talks about his heist. This isn't Menace II society where odog shows the tape to everyone.


I knew this guy. He was around children he never talked about molesting them. He worked at Mc Donald's corp in Oak Brook and I am sure No one suspected him of this.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/a-former-jehovahs-witness-elder-who-sexually-abused-a-teenager-gets-only-six-months-6450280



This is also a book that came out at the time of the Kobe trial and you would be surprised at the players who have been charged with sexual crimes ie Shaq.
http://www.amazon.com/Out-Bounds-Inside-Culture-Violence/dp/B000HWYLDS

All I am saying is that I have spent time with Derrick and Randall in these exact types of situations. Parties, drinking with girls....I have never seen anything that would make me think either of them are into tag teaming a girl.

Take it for what its worth.

I will also say that I do have friends who have joked about running a train on a girl....I have been around guys who were serious about tag teaming a girl if she was down with it. I don't think this type of sexual desire is on par with a bank heist, or molesting children, or murdering someone as another poster suggested. Its not some dark secret.

[RSCD3_]

I hope people realize that can barely stand straight people cant consent to sex legally...

I feel like some people need to see this video

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8[/youtube]

[truth18]

I hope people realize that can barely stand straight people cant consent to sex legally...

I feel like some people need to see this video

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8[/youtube]

Its **** up, man. I feel you. **** is rough right now for us straight men as weird as that is to say, lol.

And in the meantime, Colleges like Swarthmore cover up multiple rapes, by paying the victims under the table, in order to save face in the public/alumni donors.

Humans suck.

[Proven_Winner]

I'm still stuck on how 2 lawyers couldn't find any evidence yet they are still acknowledging her case.

Despite derrick's character not fitting such a thing her story makes no sense. How would she get away assuming Derrick could run on his healed acl he would catch her no problem. Assuming he was still recovering why would he jump through so many hoops for one piece of ass. To top it all off she says she was drugged but if that's true how did u get away, she shouldn't have even been in the right mind to make enough sound decision to escape.

[League Circles]

I must be the naive one then. I don't know how many women I know. Most have careers or raise kids as married woman. (Edit: or were married to the fathers or were very serious with the fathers) None have falsely accused men of rape.

I think that women who would falsely allege rape probably aren't randomly dispersed among the normal population. Normal people probably rarely come into contact with such women. Derrick rose and his friends are not normal people in terms of lifestyle.

[JDRochholz]

This offseason is......different.

[fleet]

I must be the naive one then. I don't know how many women I know. Most have careers or raise kids as married woman. (Edit: or were married to the fathers or were very serious with the fathers) None have falsely accused men of rape.

I think that women who would falsely allege rape probably aren't randomly dispersed among the normal population. Normal people probably rarely come into contact with such women. Derrick rose and his friends are not normal people in terms of lifestyle.

And all athletes arent falsely or otherwise accused of rape. The vast majority arent. And the ones that dont associate with certain kinds of women probably dont run that risk.