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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#221 » by realEAST » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:38 pm

gobullschi wrote:One player that intruiges me is Chandler Hutchinson. Good athlete and very fluid with the ball. He has point guard skills at 6'7. If we are somehow able to aquire a late 1st he would be a great pick up.


Liked him at the beginning of the season, and his shooting has improved this year, I think he is pretty interesting prospect.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#222 » by Dresden » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:49 am

Bagley missed another game with his knee problem. THat's at least 4 games he's missed now. I wonder how serious it is. Carter had a good game- 18/8/6 with 3 blocks.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#223 » by d boy gentleman » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:50 am

With guys likE Felecio and Nwaba starting, unlike Mark Cuban, Paxson and Bulls management wants to tank for a top 5 pick which isn't bad. While this draft is possibly 7 deep, you get 5 in this draft and don't feel bad at all. Ayton and Doncic are the clear 1&2, but Bagley, Jackson Jr. and Porter(if healthy and he declares) are nice consolation prizes. So is Bamba. In any case, I am glad the Bulls realize this and understand that the team isn't playoff bound and to play the young players.

A little OT but, I am disappointed in how Felecio has regressed from last season to this season. I thought that he would have been an excellent guy to utilize pick and roll plays for like Whiteside or Jordan(not saying Cris is any of those guys)on the way to becoming a solid 10 and 6 guy. He got his money and apparently became lazy :nonono:
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Post#224 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:53 am

Dresden wrote:Bagley missed another game with his knee problem. THat's at least 4 games he's missed now. I wonder how serious it is. Carter had a good game- 18/8/6 with 3 blocks.


Probably not serious unless I see otherwise. No need to jeopardize his future for a few college games.
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Post#225 » by bearadonisdna » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:23 am

Seeing two good ROY candidates this year made me think how neither of them were named allstars. (Simmons and Mitchell).

Mitchell still had an award winning allstar weekend but it made me think about if theres a guy in the draft who will be an allstar or could dominate in allstar weekend in a competition. (Dunk,3 or skills.)

Andre Drummond and al hordord were allstars so maybe ayton or bagley could take their spot.

Bradley beal,Derozan Goran Dragic, oladipo are guys who can be unseated by Porter jr.
Im not talking about in the future.
I want to know who has allstar potential next year because that is who is a transcendent talent.

Ahem, Trae young has fair competition with lowry and Walker but not insurmountable with a great rookie campaign.

I know its far fetched but theres no nba basketball and would like to designate the transcendent talent in this draft if there is one.
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Post#226 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:14 am

bearadonisdna wrote:Seeing two good ROY candidates this year made me think how neither of them were named allstars. (Simmons and Mitchell).

Mitchell still had an award winning allstar weekend but it made me think about if theres a guy in the draft who will be an allstar or could dominate in allstar weekend in a competition. (Dunk,3 or skills.)

Andre Drummond and al hordord were allstars so maybe ayton or bagley could take their spot.

Bradley beal,Derozan Goran Dragic, oladipo are guys who can be unseated by Porter jr.
Im not talking about in the future.
I want to know who has allstar potential next year because that is who is a transcendent talent.

Ahem, Trae young has fair competition with lowry and Walker but not insurmountable with a great rookie campaign.

I know its far fetched but theres no nba basketball and would like to designate the transcendent talent in this draft if there is one.


The West is loaded in the backcourt so it might be a while before Mitchell makes an all-star game. Simmons could make it next season.

Rookies don't generally get voted all-stars.
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Post#227 » by 3noD » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:15 am

Davell wrote:With all these teams tanking, I don't see any real shot of us passing up Phoenix, Memphis, Atlanta, Sacramento, or Orlando. I think Dallas, New Jersey, and New York finish behind us, once all's said and done. Slight chance of Memphis winning a few more than I'd think.

Why so pessimistic? Phoenix and Orlando are possibility. Phoenix with Booker and Payton. Orlando getting Gordon back. If we continue on the run we’ve been, anything is possible.


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Post#228 » by Jahensle » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:17 am

I dont think starting Felicio and David gets us to top 5. David is better than Holiday imo.
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Post#229 » by the ultimates » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:25 am

Jahensle wrote:I dont think starting Felicio and David gets us to top 5. David is better than Holiday imo.


Nwaba will defend better but he won't spread the floor like Holiday can. Justin has actually played better offensively because he cut down on his shot jacking.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#230 » by Benedict Miller » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:33 am

Dresden wrote:Bagley missed another game with his knee problem. THat's at least 4 games he's missed now. I wonder how serious it is. Carter had a good game- 18/8/6 with 3 blocks.


I like both, hopefully Bagley gets healthy soon.

Also, according to your logic, 18, 8 and 6 is not impressive. Only in today's one and done era can Carter achieve these kinds of numbers. Correct?
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Post#231 » by rtblues » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:52 am

Looking back at 2014, the year Lavine was drafted is a good reminder of just how much of a hit-or-miss game the draft can be.
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Reviewing this, Saric was the steal.

8-through-18 of the 2014 NBA draft:
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Post#232 » by TheHrvReport » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:05 pm

rtblues wrote:Looking back at 2014, the year Lavine was drafted is a good reminder of just how much of a hit-or-miss game the draft can be.
Buyer Beware and tread carefully!
Reviewing this, Saric was the steal.

8-through-18 of the 2014 NBA draft:
Nik Stauskas, Noah Vonleh, Elfrid Payton, Doug McDermott, Dario Saric, Zach LaVine, T.J. Warren, Adreian Payne, Jusuf Nurkic, James Young, Tyler Ennis.

There's a very good chance that if we play our cards right, our first pick can become an all-star and the 2nd pick can be a good starter for our core going forward. Very exciting.
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Post#233 » by GameBredAPBT » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:03 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
Benedict Miller wrote:Jaren Jackson...too bad he won't be there for us.


We are hardcore tanking now so I would not assume this. I think we finish bottom 5.


Honestly I see the Bulls going .500 or just below the rest of the way. Our "big 3" are going to be balling the butts off. Nwaba with more playing time may improve significantly. Felicio may gain some confidence back.
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Post#234 » by GameBredAPBT » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:06 pm

TheHrvReport wrote:
rtblues wrote:Looking back at 2014, the year Lavine was drafted is a good reminder of just how much of a hit-or-miss game the draft can be.
Buyer Beware and tread carefully!
Reviewing this, Saric was the steal.

8-through-18 of the 2014 NBA draft:
Nik Stauskas, Noah Vonleh, Elfrid Payton, Doug McDermott, Dario Saric, Zach LaVine, T.J. Warren, Adreian Payne, Jusuf Nurkic, James Young, Tyler Ennis.

There's a very good chance that if we play our cards right, our first pick can become an all-star and the 2nd pick can be a good starter for our core going forward. Very exciting.


It's too early to debate who "the steal" was in that draft. There's significant time for several of those guys to improve over the next 3/4 years before we can definitively state that so-&-so was the steal.

As of right now, LaVine was the steal. Saric is not a very good player. Do you watch him play often?
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#235 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:16 pm

GameBredAPBT wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
Benedict Miller wrote:Jaren Jackson...too bad he won't be there for us.


We are hardcore tanking now so I would not assume this. I think we finish bottom 5.


Honestly I see the Bulls going .500 or just below the rest of the way. Our "big 3" are going to be balling the butts off. Nwaba with more playing time may improve significantly. Felicio may gain some confidence back.


I don't. Our Big 3 is still going to be inconsistent with no vets guide the ship. We are going to stink.
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Post#236 » by GameBredAPBT » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:17 pm

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sh0ck wrote:I don't see a scenario where Knox falls out of the top 10. He's a gifted scorer at the perfect height and length.

I really hope the Bulls get at least one of Knox, Bridges x2. Even if it means taking one with a 7-8th pick.


I could see it, but it really depends on how scouts view his long-term potential. He's been inconsistent this season and lacks a calling card to his game. I think he's more of a project than people expected.

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Which is fine, considering the Bulls aren't looking to compete anytime soon.
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Post#237 » by GameBredAPBT » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:21 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
GameBredAPBT wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
We are hardcore tanking now so I would not assume this. I think we finish bottom 5.


Honestly I see the Bulls going .500 or just below the rest of the way. Our "big 3" are going to be balling the butts off. Nwaba with more playing time may improve significantly. Felicio may gain some confidence back.


I don't. Our Big 3 is still going to be inconsistent with no vets guide the ship. We are going to stink.


We don't know what our big 3 is going to look like, as this is the first lengthy stretch that they'll have played together up until this point. They could fall apart, they could mesh by game 5/6 & gain momentum from there. Lots of question marks going forward. However, I don't see us "hardcore tanking" with all 3 of them healthy.
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Post#238 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:49 pm

GameBredAPBT wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
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Honestly I see the Bulls going .500 or just below the rest of the way. Our "big 3" are going to be balling the butts off. Nwaba with more playing time may improve significantly. Felicio may gain some confidence back.


I don't. Our Big 3 is still going to be inconsistent with no vets guide the ship. We are going to stink.


We don't know what our big 3 is going to look like, as this is the first lengthy stretch that they'll have played together up until this point. They could fall apart, they could mesh by game 5/6 & gain momentum from there. Lots of question marks going forward. However, I don't see us "hardcore tanking" with all 3 of them healthy.


Removing Lopez, Grant and Holiday is hardcore tanking. We are replacing them with vastly inferior players under the guise of development. Teams trying to win don't do that. By Paxson's own words we will go long stretches of time with these unproven/ineffective players on the court. There will be lots of time where only one of our 3 core guys is out there. Does he have to spell it out like Cuban? If we win it won't be because that is the goal.
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Post#239 » by GameBredAPBT » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:53 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
GameBredAPBT wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
I don't. Our Big 3 is still going to be inconsistent with no vets guide the ship. We are going to stink.


We don't know what our big 3 is going to look like, as this is the first lengthy stretch that they'll have played together up until this point. They could fall apart, they could mesh by game 5/6 & gain momentum from there. Lots of question marks going forward. However, I don't see us "hardcore tanking" with all 3 of them healthy.


Removing Lopez, Grant and Holiday is hardcore tanking. We are replacing them with vastly inferior players under the guise of development. Teams trying to win don't do that. By Paxson on words we will go long stretches of time with these unproven/ineffective players on the court. Does he have to spell it out like Cuban? If we win it won't be because that is the goal.


Obviously we know what The Bulls' intentions are. The fact is that our "big 3" haven't had ample playing time together yet. Them coming together & really gelling could negate the fact that the vets have been removed. It could also help along Felicio & Nwaba in the process. The rest of the season is uncertain.
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Post#240 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:00 pm

GameBredAPBT wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
GameBredAPBT wrote:
We don't know what our big 3 is going to look like, as this is the first lengthy stretch that they'll have played together up until this point. They could fall apart, they could mesh by game 5/6 & gain momentum from there. Lots of question marks going forward. However, I don't see us "hardcore tanking" with all 3 of them healthy.


Removing Lopez, Grant and Holiday is hardcore tanking. We are replacing them with vastly inferior players under the guise of development. Teams trying to win don't do that. By Paxson on words we will go long stretches of time with these unproven/ineffective players on the court. Does he have to spell it out like Cuban? If we win it won't be because that is the goal.


Obviously we know what The Bulls' intentions are. The fact is that our "big 3" haven't had ample playing time together yet. Them coming together & really gelling could negate the fact that the vets have been removed. It could also help along Felicio & Nwaba in the process. The rest of the season is uncertain.


I expect inconsistency. I think expecting them to mesh together quickly is unrealistic. Even great groups of established vets take a while to figure things out. We are on the opposite end of that spectrum.

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