Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed

MrSparkle · Post #221 » by **MrSparkle** » Fri Dec 7, 2018 4:36 pm

Idea: Jabari & Arci for Rubio

Why for Utah: They need a stretch-pf, and can partially mask his defense with an elite paint-protector in Gobert. Rubio expires; Jabari gives them a team option, which is nice for a team with no FA allure.

Why for Jabari: he’s Mormon. Also gets to escape the tough Chicago press/fans, and let’s be honest — once Bobby returns, he’s not gonna be happy with his minutes.

Chicago: PASSING. Alternative to Dunn. Can also defend. Maybe Boylen vetoes because he wants to slow the game down, and Rubio’s shooting hurts in half-court sets, but it’d be a nice trial to see a passer feed our bigs. Just scared he’s makes us too good for the lottery, and Dunn will feel threatened, possibly move to bench. (My 2c: who cares? We need to evaluate his worth for the extension.)

And I appreciate Arci’s underdog spark this month, but let’s be honest: he’s not in the big picture.

RastaBull · Post #222 » by **RastaBull** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 4:18 am

Not a specific trade rec, but if Portis puts up numbers like last season, and Holiday can increase his efficiency with Hoiberg gone ... they should totally look out West for trade partners.

Everything is separated by so little, you could get a first that COULD turn into a good lotto pick. You want to target someone that will just miss playoffs, so when you attach a protection you can still get a 11-16 pick.

Portis could be a good match for Portland. They don't have much front court depth after Aminu and Nurkic. Portis is def better thank Collins or Leonard. He'd provide some scoring versatility and boards to turn a Nurkic/Aminu/Portis combination into a real balanced frontcourt for Lillard to work with.

Holiday might fetch something from Utah. They need another shooter even with Korver. And Holiday ALSO brings an easy fit in line with their defensive principles.

Butler4thewin · Post #223 » by **Butler4thewin** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 10:03 pm

If it looks like we will win our way out of a top pick this year would you guys think it's a good idea to trade For wall ?

I would prefer a top pick and hopefully Zion but just in case

Axolotl · Post #224 » by **Axolotl** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 10:02 am

Butler4thewin wrote:If it looks like we will win our way out of a top pick this year would you guys think it's a good idea to trade For wall ?

No to Wall. He is a good player, but not supermax good, and has a 15% trade kicker on top of his contract. That contract would cripple the Bulls for years.

Herrdoktor33 · Post #225 » by **Herrdoktor33** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:23 pm

What do we need to bring MJ back?

Nikola · Post #226 » by **Nikola** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 1:20 pm

We are not as far along in the rebuild as I had hoped before the season. Love Lauri and Wendell as future pieces not sold on dunn or lavine despite his big numbers. Everyone else is not even worth talking about long term. You can't even consider giving a guy like portis a long term contract with the current state of this team.

We need to look to get a third piece by any means necessary. I completely do not have confidence in lavine as a #1 option. If I'm in charge I throw Lauri into that position and see if Zach can improve his efficiency as a second banana. If he's not up to even being a good 2nd scorer, then I don't think he is a good player to build a winning team with. Really we need to add a piece that is better than anything we have which would push zach to third banana possibly. If he isn't neck and neck with Lauri as a second scorer at that point, I think you need more of a two way player as a #3 guy.

I know he's young and playing decently right now but I would sell high on him now if I can get more of a two way player. I know I'm possibly getting ahead of my self and being tough on zach, but there is also risk in letting everything play out and him losing value.

Zach, portis- wash - bradley beal

Or

Lavine ,Lopez -wash- Beal ,mahinmi

PrimzyBulls81 · Post #227 » by **PrimzyBulls81** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 4:32 pm

Herrdoktor33 wrote:What do we need to bring MJ back?

Mike James -- eh only one month of conditioning :lol:

ChiCitySPORTS#1 · Post #228 » by **ChiCitySPORTS#1** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 7:34 pm

Sell high on portis/holiday.

This team needs vets terribly. Having all young guns on a team is a bad recipe - and this has been well known for a while. Not suggesting making a trade for one, but we really need to pick up a couple OG vets in the offseason

logical_art · Post #229 » by **logical_art** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 8:12 pm

LaVine, Dunn, Holiday, Portis for Ball, Ingram and KCP.

sco · Post #230 » by **sco** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:02 am

logical_art wrote:LaVine, Dunn, Holiday, Portis for Ball, Ingram and KCP.

That feels like a trading same for same...not sure what the benefit is.

Dan Z · Post #231 » by **Dan Z** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:58 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:Sell high on portis/holiday.

This team needs vets terribly. Having all young guns on a team is a bad recipe - and this has been well known for a while. Not suggesting making a trade for one, but we really need to pick up a couple OG vets in the offseason

The team needs an identity. Something to rely on. If they tanked properly Doncic would've done that.

I don't think there's a FA who can help solve that and don't know if i top pick will do it. But a top pick is the teams best bet right now.

riprose · Post #232 » by **riprose** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:28 am

Anyway we can get AD? We can offer any player in bulls roster i think...

Onibuh · Post #233 » by **Onibuh** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:48 am

riprose wrote:Anyway we can get AD? We can offer any player in bulls roster i think...

would you trade AD for that package?

riprose · Post #234 » by **riprose** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:25 pm

Onibuh wrote:
riprose wrote:Anyway we can get AD? We can offer any player in bulls roster i think...

would you trade AD for that package?

I know.....

bearadonisdna · Post #235 » by **bearadonisdna** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:28 am

Bobby, holiday, lopez for inactive zbo and the kings 1st rounder.

Nate3carp · Post #236 » by **Nate3carp** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:16 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:Bobby, holiday, lopez for inactive zbo and the kings 1st rounder.

Kings already traded this year first. So the earliest 1st you could get would be 2021.

Hangtime84 · Post #237 » by **Hangtime84** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:52 pm

If I’m Chicago I’m looking at a draft day trade with the knicks and shipping Lavine there

NoZoLakers · Post #238 » by **NoZoLakers** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:15 pm

Kcp/zubac/lal 1st for holiday/portis

RakimAbdulJabar · Post #239 » by **RakimAbdulJabar** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:56 am

I'd love to add Randle, but don't see why the Pelicans would consider trading him. They have a real nice duo at PF between him and Mirotic. He'll have a player option next season too, but if I'm the Bulls I'd be keeping an eye on him, I was really glad the Lakers renounced him, that was such a terrible move, you could see the potential.

Everyone on the Bulls should be available, no one is close to untouchable on the trade market and they should really be looking to create some kind of clear direction. The current roster is just a mess of players that don't really complement each other and the lack of a PG in a league full of exciting young athletic guards is a bit annoying.

I don't think the Pelicans or Warriors would be overly interested but something like

Chicago trades: Portis, Holiday, Payne and 2nd round pick

Chicago receives: Randle and Cook

GS trades: Bell, Livingston and Cook

GS receives: Holiday, Portis, Payne and 2nd round pick

NO trades: Randle

NO receives: Bell & Livingston

NYG · Post #240 » by **NYG** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:04 pm

Ntilikina and Courtney Lee for Jabari