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Re: NBA All-Star Weekend Chicago 2020 

Post#221 » by MrSparkle » Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:50 am

Jeffster81 wrote:I'm proud of myself. I did not watch one second of ASW and it does not sound I missed anything. ASG are boring as hell, no matter the sport. To me there is no such thing as an "exciting" ASG. So I am glad the break is over.


You missed out. Was actually a great game. They didn’t kill each other but they competed pretty hard. Actually got to see the best players playing real basketball together.

Honestly, back in the 90s I think guys like Jordan, Shaq, Barkley, Robinson, Ewing, Young Kobe and Garnett, they brought an edge and competitiveness to anything they partook in, so the game wasn’t all 3Ps and uncontested dunks.

This was easily the best ASG since 1999 or 2000 imo.
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Re: NBA All-Star Weekend Chicago 2020 

Post#222 » by kulaz3000 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:07 am

MrSparkle wrote:
Jeffster81 wrote:I'm proud of myself. I did not watch one second of ASW and it does not sound I missed anything. ASG are boring as hell, no matter the sport. To me there is no such thing as an "exciting" ASG. So I am glad the break is over.


You missed out. Was actually a great game. They didn’t kill each other but they competed pretty hard. Actually got to see the best players playing real basketball together.

Honestly, back in the 90s I think guys like Jordan, Shaq, Barkley, Robinson, Ewing, Young Kobe and Garnett, they brought an edge and competitiveness to anything they partook in, so the game wasn’t all 3Ps and uncontested dunks.

This was easily the best ASG since 1999 or 2000 imo.


You know what, that wasn't entirely true. Back in the days, the All-Star game was a dunk-fest also, and many players just goofing around and giving up free lanes, however, the difference is that by the fourth quarter the competitive juices would usually fire up and that's when the competition would starting heating up and the games become competitive. And this years All-Star game went back to those days which is why it was so fun.
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Re: NBA All-Star Weekend Chicago 2020 

Post#223 » by MrSparkle » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:15 am

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Jeffster81 wrote:I'm proud of myself. I did not watch one second of ASW and it does not sound I missed anything. ASG are boring as hell, no matter the sport. To me there is no such thing as an "exciting" ASG. So I am glad the break is over.


You missed out. Was actually a great game. They didn’t kill each other but they competed pretty hard. Actually got to see the best players playing real basketball together.

Honestly, back in the 90s I think guys like Jordan, Shaq, Barkley, Robinson, Ewing, Young Kobe and Garnett, they brought an edge and competitiveness to anything they partook in, so the game wasn’t all 3Ps and uncontested dunks.

This was easily the best ASG since 1999 or 2000 imo.


You know what, that wasn't entirely true. Back in the days, the All-Star game was a dunk-fest also, and many players just goofing around and giving up free lanes, however, the difference is that by the fourth quarter the competitive juices would usually fire up and that's when the competition would starting heating up and the games become competitive. And this years All-Star game went back to those days which is why it was so fun.


Yeah, but I remember guys like Pippen, Jordan, Bird, Magic, even Mullin, Kidd, Penny bringing their passing games to the table. You got to see the best basketball talent actually showcase their IQ and team skills. Also, the center position actually had HOF players like Shaq, Zo, Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, so it was borderline impossible waltzing in for dunks even if they played on gear 1.

At some point, it really did become a hardcore 3P chuck fest, and the diminished role of defensive centers made the ASG feature wings at C for more than half the game. Since the game was 'competitive' this year, Gobert, Embiid actually played roles.
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Re: NBA All-Star Weekend Chicago 2020 

Post#224 » by Jeffster81 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:20 am

MrSparkle wrote:
Jeffster81 wrote:I'm proud of myself. I did not watch one second of ASW and it does not sound I missed anything. ASG are boring as hell, no matter the sport. To me there is no such thing as an "exciting" ASG. So I am glad the break is over.


You missed out. Was actually a great game. They didn’t kill each other but they competed pretty hard. Actually got to see the best players playing real basketball together.

Honestly, back in the 90s I think guys like Jordan, Shaq, Barkley, Robinson, Ewing, Young Kobe and Garnett, they brought an edge and competitiveness to anything they partook in, so the game wasn’t all 3Ps and uncontested dunks.

This was easily the best ASG since 1999 or 2000 imo.


I love baseball more than any sport on earth and I won't sit and watch MLB ASG. So there is no chance I am watching any other sport ASG. You say I "missed out", I say, no I did not. I rather watch the XFL then an ASG.
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Re: NBA All-Star Weekend Chicago 2020 

Post#225 » by MrSparkle » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:26 am

Jeffster81 wrote:
MrSparkle wrote:
Jeffster81 wrote:I'm proud of myself. I did not watch one second of ASW and it does not sound I missed anything. ASG are boring as hell, no matter the sport. To me there is no such thing as an "exciting" ASG. So I am glad the break is over.


You missed out. Was actually a great game. They didn’t kill each other but they competed pretty hard. Actually got to see the best players playing real basketball together.

Honestly, back in the 90s I think guys like Jordan, Shaq, Barkley, Robinson, Ewing, Young Kobe and Garnett, they brought an edge and competitiveness to anything they partook in, so the game wasn’t all 3Ps and uncontested dunks.

This was easily the best ASG since 1999 or 2000 imo.


I love baseball more than any sport on earth and I won't sit and watch MLB ASG. So there is no chance I am watching any other sport ASG. You say I "missed out", I say, no I did not. I rather watch the XFL then an ASG.


:dontknow: Fair enough. FWIW I haven't fully watched an ASG in almost 10 years, and it was really only to see Rose. I generally despise ASGs and avoid them all.

Just saying, last night's game was actually a very competitive 4th Q, not unlike any regular season game. You got to see Embiid shaking and baking Lebron, Lowry drawing charges on Kawhi.
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Post#226 » by johnnyvann840 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:45 am

jc23 wrote:what did the board think of the dimming of the lights on the crowd? its the same way msg and staples handle their home games.

I would try it out if i was the Bulls, you focus the light on the game and "maybe" the casuals will follow the game more closely and loudly.


Agree with you on this. I like it when the lights in the crowd are dimmed. That is how it used to be back at the old Stadium. I hate the bright lights on the crowd. Last thing I want to see when watching a basketball game is a bunch of fans playing on their phones. When you're at the game and the lights are dimmed in the crowd it adds some intensity, IMO. Focus the lights on the court instead of a bunch of fools taking selfies and texting their friends. MSG is the best at this but they still light the crowd up much more than they used to back from the 60's through the 80's and 90's. Seems like sometime around 2000 is when they started to crank up the lights on the crowd especially down in the lower seating.
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Re: NBA All-Star Weekend Chicago 2020 

Post#227 » by kulaz3000 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:48 am

MrSparkle wrote:
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MrSparkle wrote:
You missed out. Was actually a great game. They didn’t kill each other but they competed pretty hard. Actually got to see the best players playing real basketball together.

Honestly, back in the 90s I think guys like Jordan, Shaq, Barkley, Robinson, Ewing, Young Kobe and Garnett, they brought an edge and competitiveness to anything they partook in, so the game wasn’t all 3Ps and uncontested dunks.

This was easily the best ASG since 1999 or 2000 imo.


You know what, that wasn't entirely true. Back in the days, the All-Star game was a dunk-fest also, and many players just goofing around and giving up free lanes, however, the difference is that by the fourth quarter the competitive juices would usually fire up and that's when the competition would starting heating up and the games become competitive. And this years All-Star game went back to those days which is why it was so fun.


Yeah, but I remember guys like Pippen, Jordan, Bird, Magic, even Mullin, Kidd, Penny bringing their passing games to the table. You got to see the best basketball talent actually showcase their IQ and team skills. Also, the center position actually had HOF players like Shaq, Zo, Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, so it was borderline impossible waltzing in for dunks even if they played on gear 1.

At some point, it really did become a hardcore 3P chuck fest, and the diminished role of defensive centers made the ASG feature wings at C for more than half the game. Since the game was 'competitive' this year, Gobert, Embiid actually played roles.


You're right, there was a lot less three point chucking, that's without question. But that was somewhat to be expected, considering how the game has evolved into such a 3 point shooting league.

I'm just glad that they found a format which gets the players to be more competitive, I just hope it continues to be this way for several years longer.
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Re: NBA All-Star Weekend Chicago 2020 

Post#228 » by dice » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:54 am

MrSparkle wrote:
Jeffster81 wrote:
MrSparkle wrote:
You missed out. Was actually a great game. They didn’t kill each other but they competed pretty hard. Actually got to see the best players playing real basketball together.

Honestly, back in the 90s I think guys like Jordan, Shaq, Barkley, Robinson, Ewing, Young Kobe and Garnett, they brought an edge and competitiveness to anything they partook in, so the game wasn’t all 3Ps and uncontested dunks.

This was easily the best ASG since 1999 or 2000 imo.


I love baseball more than any sport on earth and I won't sit and watch MLB ASG. So there is no chance I am watching any other sport ASG. You say I "missed out", I say, no I did not. I rather watch the XFL then an ASG.


:dontknow: Fair enough. FWIW I haven't fully watched an ASG in almost 10 years, and it was really only to see Rose. I generally despise ASGs and avoid them all.

Just saying, last night's game was actually a very competitive 4th Q, not unlike any regular season game. You got to see Embiid shaking and baking Lebron, Lowry drawing charges on Kawhi.

the game happened to run late and i stumbled on it in the 4th quarter. held my attention to the end. not must see or anything, but surprisingly entertaining. couldn't quite understand why the intensity was as high as it was. allegiance to team captains? have to admit, i wanted giannis's team to win
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Re: NBA All-Star Weekend Chicago 2020 

Post#229 » by Leslie Forman » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:41 am

kulaz3000 wrote:I'm just glad that they found a format which gets the players to be more competitive, I just hope it continues to be this way for several years longer.

Honestly if the league made every game follow that format, I'd be for it.

Nobody plays a game of basketball according to some clock. And what do you know, a normal pickup game does not devolve into endless intentional fouling every other possession at the end.

Getting rid of intentional fouls and tanking "rebuilding" are the two things that really have to happen IMO.
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Re: NBA All-Star Weekend Chicago 2020 

Post#230 » by keloms » Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:54 am

jc23 wrote:what did the board think of the dimming of the lights on the crowd? its the same way msg and staples handle their home games.

I would try it out if i was the Bulls, you focus the light on the game and "maybe" the casuals will follow the game more closely and loudly.


Wont happen. Bulls have sold too much ad space inside the bowl and going with theater lighting would limit the exposure.
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Re: NBA All-Star Weekend Chicago 2020 

Post#231 » by dice » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:11 am

Leslie Forman wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:I'm just glad that they found a format which gets the players to be more competitive, I just hope it continues to be this way for several years longer.

Honestly if the league made every game follow that format, I'd be for it.

Nobody plays a game of basketball according to some clock.

'cause nobody's gonna set up a scoreboard at a pickup game :dontknow:

"hey darrell, buddy. wanna come down to the park and keep time for us?!"

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And what do you know, a normal pickup game does not devolve into endless intentional fouling every other possession at the end.

no, but it does vary wildly in the amount of time it takes to complete

the nba's not going to institute a system where sometimes the 4th quarter lasts 15 minutes and occasionally it tops an hour

without the ability to intentionally foul the game's pretty much over. it adds potential excitement in the form of the possibility of further meaningful game action. the cost is watching some free throws and postponing mowing the lawn
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Re: NBA All-Star Weekend Chicago 2020 

Post#232 » by MrSparkle » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:53 am

If they do the mid-tournament with Elam format, it will be very good.

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