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Around The NBA : 2023-24 Season #3

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Re: Around The NBA : 2023-24 Season #3 

Post#221 » by ChiefILL53 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:06 pm

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dumbell78 wrote:This was one of the lamest Finals in years for me. I also agree with MrSparkle, the dragging out of games is ridiculous. I am perfectly fine with 1 day rest between games and 2 days when shifting cities.

The In Season Tournament had more intensity. Putting 3 days between each game made me forget there was even a FINALS game that night and I am someone who was watching 3 games a night during the season.


Hell, I missed game 3 and almost game 4 because not only was I in the process of moving, I had completely forgotten the games were coming on lmao.
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Post#222 » by kodo » Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:26 pm

This kind of awesome the WNBA is getting this level of fandom.
Round 3 of the entertaining midwest matchup between the Chicago Sky and Indiana Fever is slated as the most expensive WNBA game on record, according to TickPick, a second-hand ticket marketplace.

According to TickPick, the average purchase price of the game is $271, which is 207% higher than the Sky's home average purchase price of $88 this season. They also noted the "get-in" price for Sunday's game is $249. The most expensive ticket available is currently going for $9,131.


I know nothing about the WNBA, is Angel Reese better than Caitlin?
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Post#223 » by jc23 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 9:43 pm

kodo wrote:This kind of awesome the WNBA is getting this level of fandom.
Round 3 of the entertaining midwest matchup between the Chicago Sky and Indiana Fever is slated as the most expensive WNBA game on record, according to TickPick, a second-hand ticket marketplace.

According to TickPick, the average purchase price of the game is $271, which is 207% higher than the Sky's home average purchase price of $88 this season. They also noted the "get-in" price for Sunday's game is $249. The most expensive ticket available is currently going for $9,131.


I know nothing about the WNBA, is Angel Reese better than Caitlin?


imo no. Reese is a strong offensive rebounder and defender. Most of her points come from put backs 5 and in from the basket. Like a rookie Noah who still cant pass. When you watch Fever games you can see the gravity CC brings. I wish i watched some games in the past but my assumption is her teammates are getting more open opportunities then they ever have.

With Catlin your already seeing her adapting to the WNBA speed. Which is more difficult for a point guard compared to a big imo. Its taken time for both Catlin and her team to develop chemistry. She is also a surprisingly good defensive rebounder.
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Post#224 » by dice » Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:13 am

kodo wrote:This kind of awesome the WNBA is getting this level of fandom.
Round 3 of the entertaining midwest matchup between the Chicago Sky and Indiana Fever is slated as the most expensive WNBA game on record, according to TickPick, a second-hand ticket marketplace.

According to TickPick, the average purchase price of the game is $271, which is 207% higher than the Sky's home average purchase price of $88 this season. They also noted the "get-in" price for Sunday's game is $249. The most expensive ticket available is currently going for $9,131.


I know nothing about the WNBA, is Angel Reese better than Caitlin?

it costs nearly $100 a ticket to see the freaking SKY? how is the league not turning a substantial profit?
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Re: Around The NBA : 2023-24 Season #3 

Post#225 » by Mbrahv0528 » Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:30 am

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kodo wrote:This kind of awesome the WNBA is getting this level of fandom.
Round 3 of the entertaining midwest matchup between the Chicago Sky and Indiana Fever is slated as the most expensive WNBA game on record, according to TickPick, a second-hand ticket marketplace.

According to TickPick, the average purchase price of the game is $271, which is 207% higher than the Sky's home average purchase price of $88 this season. They also noted the "get-in" price for Sunday's game is $249. The most expensive ticket available is currently going for $9,131.


I know nothing about the WNBA, is Angel Reese better than Caitlin?

it costs nearly $100 a ticket to see the freaking SKY? how is the league not turning a substantial profit?
Going forward, it's likely going to. Provided the CC train doesn't get derailed and she keeps delivering on her promise.

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Post#226 » by jc23 » Sat Jun 22, 2024 11:01 pm

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Post#228 » by jc23 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:28 pm

i look forward to this years tank watch 2025 thread.
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Post#229 » by DASMACKDOWN » Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:54 pm

Again I have to get used to the new NBA salaries. But Scottie Barnes is now getting paid 54 mil a year.

So I struggle with the ire when people say Zach is getting 43.

Yesterday's price is not today's price.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2023-24 Season #3 

Post#230 » by Chi town » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:05 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:Again I have to get used to the new NBA salaries. But Scottie Barnes is now getting paid 54 mil a year.

So I struggle with the ire when people say Zach is getting 43.

Yesterday's price is not today's price.


Even more reason to hold on.

His value will only increase when he actually plays and everyone else is getting crazy money.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2023-24 Season #3 

Post#231 » by MGB8 » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:16 pm

I think this is going to be a long offseason, at least from the POV of Bulls fans.

There are so many dominos that have to fall first before the FO will realistically be able to resolve whether Zach stays or goes, and after that, DDR’s FA.

Philly right now has one guaranteed contract - Embiid - with Maxey waiting on his max extension until later to open up max room. What they do with their cap, including whether a Paul George or OG ends up there, will set a lot of things in motion.

Detroit also potentially has a ton of cap room - but have said they are looking to use it to take on unwanted cap in return for future assets (i.e., no Zach). Utah also has room, but like Detroit seems to be more in a future-focus than a team that might be interested in Zach or DDR (as a backup option).

That leaves Charlotte as a team with cap room that might be looking to use it for short term improvement, as well as Atlanta looking for a big shift in direction, Sacramento as a team looking for immediate improvement. Unless one of those teams has a big interest in Zach - which is doubtful given reports - it looks like the Bulls (and those players) will need to wait their turns to see anything resolved - and there are a lot of folks ahead of them in a long line.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2023-24 Season #3 

Post#232 » by 2weekswithpay » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:23 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:Again I have to get used to the new NBA salaries. But Scottie Barnes is now getting paid 54 mil a year.

So I struggle with the ire when people say Zach is getting 43.

Yesterday's price is not today's price.


It only goes up to 54M if Barnes makes an All-NBA team. Right now the average salary is 45M with the first year at 38M.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2023-24 Season #3 

Post#233 » by pipfan » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:44 pm

I still think we should consider trading Coby.
Ayo/Carter
Lavine/Terry
Giddy/Terry
Pwill/Phillips
Vuc

Plus what we get for Coby. I like him a lot, but we should pump up Lavine's value the first two months and deal him. Get picks and a young piece for Coby and go full on to tank for 2025

Orl might send Howard, #18 and the Den pick. We save $ (always a bonus in Chi), get two picks and open shots/minutes up. SA too, would give up #8 and give our pick back I bet

I know it won't happen, but we should consider it.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2023-24 Season #3 

Post#234 » by kodo » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:51 pm

I remember Giddey & Barnes were compared to each other in the past.
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20 points 8 rebounds 6 assists; 53% 2P 34% 3P 56% TS (Barnes)
18 points 9 rebounds 7 assists; 53% 2P 34% 3P 55% TS (Giddey)

Barnes is also a year older. I assume we'll be paying Giddey a small fraction of that salary despite how similar the stats are.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2023-24 Season #3 

Post#235 » by FriedRise » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:52 pm

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DASMACKDOWN wrote:Again I have to get used to the new NBA salaries. But Scottie Barnes is now getting paid 54 mil a year.

So I struggle with the ire when people say Zach is getting 43.

Yesterday's price is not today's price.


Even more reason to hold on.

His value will only increase when he actually plays and everyone else is getting crazy money.


I'm fine with letting Zach go, but what I'm not fine with is if we have to also attach draft capital just to get rid of his contract. I'd rather keep him and let him build up his value up to a neutral level where we can then engage in even trades rather than these terrible lopsided ones. It can all happen by him getting back on the court, staying healthy, and like you said, the market readjusting to the new numbers where 40M per isn't all that crazy.

Selling low where we don't have to just feels weird, especially when the team is nowhere near contention and the player isn't toxic and is fine remaining professional. Now if Zach travels to China and starts calling AK a liar, we might have to accelerate the process...
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Re: Around The NBA : 2023-24 Season #3 

Post#236 » by DASMACKDOWN » Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:07 pm

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Chi town wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:Again I have to get used to the new NBA salaries. But Scottie Barnes is now getting paid 54 mil a year.

So I struggle with the ire when people say Zach is getting 43.

Yesterday's price is not today's price.


Even more reason to hold on.

His value will only increase when he actually plays and everyone else is getting crazy money.


I'm fine with letting Zach go, but what I'm not fine with is if we have to also attach draft capital just to get rid of his contract. I'd rather keep him and let him build up his value up to a neutral level where we can then engage in even trades rather than these terrible lopsided ones. It can all happen by him getting back on the court, staying healthy, and like you said, the market readjusting to the new numbers where 40M per isn't all that crazy.

Selling low where we don't have to just feels weird, especially when the team is nowhere near contention and the player isn't toxic and is fine remaining professional. Now if Zach travels to China and starts calling AK a liar, we might have to accelerate the process...


Yeah all this talk of "How are we ever going to move Zach?" talk is nonsense. The narrative will get outdated very quickly once these new deals kick in a week from now.

I certainly will keep Zach until a really good deal comes along. Especially since more team will be cost conscious. At some point you know GS and PHX will have to drop cost. Get expirings and picks. No long term money.

But making it seem like we have to attach an asset is infuriating to me. People are acting like Zach is a John Wall or Westbrook in the last few years.
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Post#237 » by DASMACKDOWN » Mon Jun 24, 2024 9:21 pm

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Post#238 » by dice » Tue Jun 25, 2024 2:41 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:Again I have to get used to the new NBA salaries. But Scottie Barnes is now getting paid 54 mil a year.

So I struggle with the ire when people say Zach is getting 43.

Yesterday's price is not today's price.

barnes got 25% max, zach got 30% max, both w/ expectation that cap would continue to rise. hard to compare trading for guys at different ages and stages of their contracts

lavine turns 30 next season, has 2 years left after that, a history of losing bigly, and a significant reliance on athleticism combined with a a somewhat concerning injury history. the bulls might not have to throw anything in, but you can bet the contracts they get back won't be any more desirable. maybe terrible expirings and a pick
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Re: Around The NBA : 2023-24 Season #3 

Post#239 » by samwana » Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:43 am

Anunoby has declined his option and is an unrestricted free agent.

That is not so good for both Zach or DDR deals to happen quickly
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Post#240 » by sco » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:42 pm

samwana wrote:Anunoby has declined his option and is an unrestricted free agent.

That is not so good for both Zach or DDR deals to happen quickly

That was always going to happen. He's a near-max guy and his option was less than $20M IIRC. The Knicks tried to get him for $35M, but he didn't want that. They gave up a lot for him and really have not choice but to max him because someone else likely will if they don't. I think the more interesting situation will come with Hartenstein vs. Robinson, and the fact that the Knicks are limited as to how much they can offer him where other teams can offer more.

The guy on the Knicks that I really want is Achuiwa. If we can shed enough $, he might be gettable for the MLE. Dude killed it for the Knicks last season when he got minutes. He rebounds, blocks shots and can defend the perimeter adequately, and is young.
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