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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#241 » by deputy » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:51 pm

Tim M wrote:New York beat writer saying Knicks are now front-runners for LeBron. Says Chicago is out.


I completely agree with him.

PRETTY PLEASE...stay in CLEVELAND, Lebron!!

I can't stand to be in NY for the next 10+ years while the Knicks have Lebron.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#242 » by jservs7 » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:51 pm

If LBJ doesn't sign, the curse of MJ leaving will be a total reality to me. :lol: Maybe the owner of the Blackhawks can buy the Bulls too. Would be nice to have an owner that realizes spending money on the right people makes money.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#243 » by anorexorcism » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:51 pm

BJ43 wrote:I'll just go get married and have a kid or something so I can focus on important things and not think about this any more.

I've allowed the Bulls to dominate my thoughts and life for over 20 yrs and I can't do that anymore.


Yeah, it may be time to re-evaluate this thing as a priority in my life if we get no one (and I mean no one, which has a fair chance of happening right now). I'm privileged I got to see the Jordan years from '88 - '98, and I stuck it out for another 12 years after that, but there comes a time and point where it stops being worth it and you start to become a masochist. I'm starting to sympathize with Cubs fans.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#244 » by dougthonus » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:52 pm

bulletbill wrote:The Bulls had great opportunity but so far they EFF'd up. From the beginning, I was saying the Bulls should lock in on Bosh, the diva, and treat him as a #1 like the big 2 FAs. This would either pull Wade back home, or break up CB/Wade having the same agent.

Now the Bulls gave up their mid 1st + money TO CLEAR Kirk's salary. Looking at how much Gay got signed for, Deng actually has positive value. To move Deng for another pick, we take back a bad contract making less (i.e. Garcia). Now we have 3 picks + JJ, Taj to give TOR for a Bosh S&T, which there's no way they pass up on. We sign Bosh, and he gets his 6 years. This forces WADE & LBJ to make their move. Who blinks 1st & runs to CHI? Who goes to NY? Will LBJ stay in CLE? Because there is no way LBJ would team with direct comp. for the league's best when wade already has 1 ring up on him. Bulls would have been in the drivers seat...

Now we have to get Lee/Boozer and pray that LBJ approves and joins us. But a sick feeling I get is we would have known that info by now....


Before FA started, everyone thought Bosh to Miami was a lock.

Bosh went to Miami.

Why do people think management screwed up?
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#245 » by lu9 » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:52 pm

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Rerisen wrote:Lee's max is only like 12 million right?

I bet we get him. He has the best value that we can't overpay for. Someone else will max Boozer and we won't want to.


It's 25% of BRI, it should probably be starting around 13.5 million. Around 5/78.3 million.


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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#246 » by BlazingBulls » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:52 pm

Maverick Carter is in New York today right?
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#247 » by deputy » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:52 pm

BlazingBulls wrote:Maverick Carter is in New York today right?


:sigh:
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#248 » by msa13 » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:52 pm

People, Mike & Mike are ESPN's number one puppets. They are hyping the knicks to build buzz for tomorrow night. Mike & Mike is a vehicle for ESPN to promote everything they air. Does LeBron think he can beat the Heat in Cleveland? Tune in tomorrow night.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#249 » by Tim M » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:52 pm

Same beat writer claims Knicks will sign Boozer if they do not land LeBron.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#250 » by AAU Teammate » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:52 pm

People bringing up the Deng thing have to face the possibility that none of the big three wanted to come here that badly.

If they did, we wouldve freed up the money. Lebron obviously leaned at least somewhat towards staying home all along. Wade valued the 6th year. Bosh valued playing w/ a fellow FA star.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#251 » by biggestbullsfan » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:52 pm

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bulletbill wrote:The Bulls had great opportunity but so far they EFF'd up. From the beginning, I was saying the Bulls should lock in on Bosh, the diva, and treat him as a #1 like the big 2 FAs. This would either pull Wade back home, or break up CB/Wade having the same agent.

Now the Bulls gave up their mid 1st + money TO CLEAR Kirk's salary. Looking at how much Gay got signed for, Deng actually has positive value. To move Deng for another pick, we take back a bad contract making less (i.e. Garcia). Now we have 3 picks + JJ, Taj to give TOR for a Bosh S&T, which there's no way they pass up on. We sign Bosh, and he gets his 6 years. This forces WADE & LBJ to make their move. Who blinks 1st & runs to CHI? Who goes to NY? Will LBJ stay in CLE? Because there is no way LBJ would team with direct comp. for the league's best when wade already has 1 ring up on him. Bulls would have been in the drivers seat...

Now we have to get Lee/Boozer and pray that LBJ approves and joins us. But a sick feeling I get is we would have known that info by now....


Before FA started, everyone thought Bosh to Miami was a lock.

Bosh went to Miami.

Why do people think management screwed up?


Because we are angry and irrational...
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#252 » by DRoseNation1 » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:53 pm

People calm down.
okay let's say we missed out on the big 3, we still got Derrick Rose.
Derrick Rose is our Lebron James
Derrick Rose is our Dwyane Wade
Derrick Rose is better than Chris Bosh

He is our unicorn and if we could add Lebron great. but even if we dont, its not the end of the world.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#253 » by DJhitek » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:53 pm

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coldfish wrote:Well, then. Strike out it is. Two immediate comments:
- This is Chicago's third massive failure in free agency in 10 years. Don't. Ever. Do. It. Again. If anything, it may be the worst strike out because the Bulls gave up so much to get here.
- Chicago now has to choose between locking in mediocrity or coming up with a different plan for moving forward. I'm not sure that the knee jerk idea of signing Boozer or Lee is the right idea.


What kind of backlash do you foresee from the fanbase? I'm guessing it's going to be pretty severe/swift, particularly considering so many season tickets were sold/picked up in the hopes we'd be FA winners. Especially in this economy, people are going to be furious that they now have a $2000-$5000 investment that will be looking worse and worse by the day.


The backlash can say whatever they want, some reports are truly telling.

1) Wade has been recruiting Bosh since the end of the season and there is nothing the Bulls FO can do about it. I'm not sure what else can be said in that matter.

2) Lebron never intended to leave Cleveland(if he goes to Miami, again, he's been recruited by Wade since the end of the playoffs). How foolish should the Bulls feel? He wants a one hour special to announce his decision like he is on American Idol.

I'm fine with Boozer, would prefer David Lee. That guy works his tail off and has made drastic improvements in every facet except defense. Which I'm confident he could fix with the help of Tibbs. Let's try to get Morrow and build around Derrick Rose.

The offseason isn't a failure to me, the biggest mistake was made 3 years ago when we signed Deng instead of Gordon. Can't fault the Bulls for putting themselves in position to cash in on the greatest FA class ever. They had the best team of holdovers, these guys wanted to get paid.

Lesson learned, trade for your talent or just get lucky in the draft.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#254 » by The Force. » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:53 pm

msa13 wrote:People, Mike & Mike are ESPN's number one puppets. They are hyping the knicks to build buzz for tomorrow night. Mike & Mike is a vehicle for ESPN to promote everything they air. Does LeBron think he can beat the Heat in Cleveland? Tune in tomorrow night.



+1... not to mention, they are probably the LEAST informed NBA analysts on the radio.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#255 » by Gray Poster » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:54 pm

Tim M wrote:New York beat writer saying Knicks are now front-runners for LeBron. Says Chicago is out.



How is this possible? I know Broussard said the Knicks were in the picture as well. The Knicks suck and have sucked for years and haven't had a top team since 1992.

This would suck more than LeBron staying in Cleveland.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#256 » by Rerisen » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:54 pm

Scary thought. Bucher and Thorpe are real close to being right about the Bulls not landing any of the big names. :nonono:
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#257 » by Ralphb07 » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:54 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:How can anyone say don't do free agency again, when most of you said that our likely outcome was 'striking out.' Even though getting an all-star in his prime, wouldn't be considered that.


Yeah, people fell in love with the LBJ idea way too much and than let it get even more out of hand think LBJ/Bosh.

Going into free agency the realistic guys were Bosh, Johnson, Stoudemire, Boozer and Lee. No too many people wanted Stoudemire or Johnson. There's still a chance for Boozer or Lee and though it's not sexy it's a star.

I also fully stand behind one thing Bucher said last night that Derrick Rose is about 65% of what he'll be in two years
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#258 » by lu9 » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:54 pm

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bulletbill wrote:The Bulls had great opportunity but so far they EFF'd up. From the beginning, I was saying the Bulls should lock in on Bosh, the diva, and treat him as a #1 like the big 2 FAs. This would either pull Wade back home, or break up CB/Wade having the same agent.

Now the Bulls gave up their mid 1st + money TO CLEAR Kirk's salary. Looking at how much Gay got signed for, Deng actually has positive value. To move Deng for another pick, we take back a bad contract making less (i.e. Garcia). Now we have 3 picks + JJ, Taj to give TOR for a Bosh S&T, which there's no way they pass up on. We sign Bosh, and he gets his 6 years. This forces WADE & LBJ to make their move. Who blinks 1st & runs to CHI? Who goes to NY? Will LBJ stay in CLE? Because there is no way LBJ would team with direct comp. for the league's best when wade already has 1 ring up on him. Bulls would have been in the drivers seat...

Now we have to get Lee/Boozer and pray that LBJ approves and joins us. But a sick feeling I get is we would have known that info by now....


Before FA started, everyone thought Bosh to Miami was a lock.

Bosh went to Miami.

Why do people think management screwed up?


That's the Doug we all know and love.. always level-headed. Question Doug. If you will, please entertain me. Who can we grab off someone ele's books at this point that would be better than boozer/lee?

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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#259 » by c c » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:55 pm

ozbull wrote:
AAU Teammate:We're about to add an all-star PF (after years and years of pining for one) and yet everyone's depressed.

Man those expectations got so high. I think we'll embrace this team big time by opening night. Assuming we get one of the two PFs and a real quality 3pt shooter


Definitely.

If you would have told me 6 months ago that we would have Lebron or Wade I would have laughed..

But, a quality PF, backup C and some sharp shooters makes us a long-term threat.

Don't underestimate the improvement left in Rose, Noah and even Deng..


its hard to get excited about a team that isn't going to win a championship with that lineup.
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Re: Broussard: Wade/Bosh to Miami 

Post#260 » by dougthonus » Wed Jul 7, 2010 12:55 pm

Yeah, it may be time to re-evaluate this thing as a priority in my life if we get no one (and I mean no one, which has a fair chance of happening right now). I'm privileged I got to see the Jordan years from '88 - '98, and I stuck it out for another 12 years after that, but there comes a time and point where it stops being worth it and you start to become a masochist. I'm starting to sympathize with Cubs fans.


Why get so emotionally involved?

I love watching the Bulls, I enjoy the team, I've enjoyed many of the players they've had. I wish the team was better, I wish it had superstars, I wish it could win another title, but the lack of those things don't need to make it a miserable experience.

Is there any other area of your life _anywhere_ where you would consider a lack of ultimate achievement to be a failure?
If your children were not the #1 athletes or #1 scholars would you view them as failures?
Do you view yourself a failure because you are not the #1 person in the world at your profession?
Do you view your wife or any other family members as failures for the same reasons?
Do you find yourself absolutely miserable for basically being a member of the masses?

You don't have to watch the team and have your happiness and enjoyment riding on the outcome. You can just enjoy it for what it is.

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