Bulls Might Now Be More Likely To Trade Luol Deng

pylb · Post #241 » by **pylb** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:12 pm

We should have a thread to place bets on who gets traded first (or if the Bulls even make a trade, ha, imagine if we don't!).

Kirk and Nazr are staying I expect, Nazr because he has the no trade clause, Kirk out of loyalty or something, also could we actually get anything valuable for him ?

Boozer's tricky because he can fetch a good price, but it will be real tough to find. Maybe a young up and coming team that needs some inside presence. He's a good vet.

Noah's on a great contract and one of the reasons' Thibs is on the team. Getting older, with injury concerns, I think he can fetch a better price than Booz but it could be hard to find too. I also have no idea how much the FO wants to keep him at this stage. Getting as good a big for as low a price would be impossible. Tough one. I think he stays unless he gets us a really good trade.

Jimmy I think they expect to keep simply because of his low salary. He's probably not off limits though, just a real friendly contract for the moment and expected to be needed because...

Deng is probably out. The FO might feel like they don't need him and he has good value. Plenty of young teams are in need of a SF around the league.

Taj will probably stay while they try to move Boozer. His value around the league is probably a bit lower than it should be because of last year.

Teague's been available for some time, for the right price. I don't expect that to change since we can afford to develop him now.

Snell will only leave if packaged with something else, he hasn't shown enough yet to have any value.
Same for Murphy.

Dunleavy is a tricky one. He wants to play for a contender which we obviously won't be, so he might not mind being moved to a good team. If Deng goes however he might be needed here, plus he is on a friendly contract.

Ralphb07 · Post #242 » by **Ralphb07** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:21 pm

Bulls need to shop Boozer and Deng ASAP. Start preparing for the future here

Fantastik_Goat · Post #243 » by **Fantastik_Goat** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:24 pm

Bulls out: Deng and Noah

Bulls in: Asik, Lin, Eric Gordan, And Jason Smith

Huston out: Asik and Lin

Huston In: Ryan Anderson, Hinrich, and Teague

Pelicans Out: Ryan Anderson, Eric Gordan, and Jason Smith

Pelicans In: Deng and Noah

mschmidt64 · Post #244 » by **mschmidt64** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:38 pm

I almost don't care what you get for Deng and Boozer as long as it includes salary relief.

I'd also like to deal Noah if you could get a likely mid-teens first round pick or better.

The idea should be to strip this team down to the bare bones and to do it now. If Deng and Boozer are going to be gone anyway after the season, you can't win DURING the season now that Rose is gone, so get rid of them before we accumulate too many wins.

You want to bottom out and bottom out hard. You want to have the Bobcats pick at 11-12 and your own pick in the top 10. And maybe another first round pick or two from a trade of Boozer, Deng or Noah.

You want to have a rookie class next year of Mirotic, a top ten pick, and maybe another rookie from the low-teens. If you can get up for an impact player like Wiggins, Parker, Randle, Exum or Smart, so much the better.

There is your new core. Rose, Stud Rookie, Mirotic, Butler, another quality rookie, and cap space.

Ralphb07 · Post #245 » by **Ralphb07** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:41 pm

I wonder if LAL would do Deng and Boozer for Gasol and filler

weneeda2guard · Post #246 » by **weneeda2guard** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:43 pm

My hopes are this

Move enough guys to make the team bad enough to tank no matter how much thibs coaches them up and clear the books for enough cap space to sign 2 great players this off season Noah would likely be the only guy we keep in this scenario unless he brings back a superstar. End result

A high lotto pick(look out for us Adam) possibly by moving deng, amnesty to boozer trading taj Kirk for cheaper we can lock in maybe dirk for 10 mill and convince melo to come here for the max then bring miritoc over that would be a great scenario for rose to come back to start of next season

Wiggins, melo, dirk Noah miritoc and then rose to that max is a championship caliber roster

That would be my dream if no melo I think clearing the space and picking up maybe pau, granger and even turner would be great to have next to Noah and rose too.

Ralphb07 · Post #247 » by **Ralphb07** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:45 pm

Deng and Boozer for Gay, Amir and Acy. That would certainly help Toronto in that wide open division.

Post #248 » by **Payt10** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:48 pm

Ralphb07 wrote:Deng and Boozer for Gay, Amir and Acy. That would certainly help Toronto in that wide open division.

How many years left does Gay have on his deal? That doesn't sound like something the Bulls would do if the plan was to rebuild.

Post #249 » by **AshyLarrysDiaper** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:51 pm

Payt10 wrote:
Ralphb07 wrote:Deng and Boozer for Gay, Amir and Acy. That would certainly help Toronto in that wide open division.

How many years left does Gay have on his deal? That doesn't sound like something the Bulls would do if the plan was to rebuild.

He has a $19 mil player option in 2014-15. Bulls aren't touching that with a 10 foot pole.

Ralphb07 · Post #250 » by **Ralphb07** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:51 pm

Payt10 wrote:
Ralphb07 wrote:Deng and Boozer for Gay, Amir and Acy. That would certainly help Toronto in that wide open division.

How many years left does Gay have on his deal? That doesn't sound like something the Bulls would do if the plan was to rebuild.

I think Gay can opt out this season and might. But yeah might not make that much sense after thinking of it

Ralphb07 · Post #251 » by **Ralphb07** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:54 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Payt10 wrote:
Ralphb07 wrote:Deng and Boozer for Gay, Amir and Acy. That would certainly help Toronto in that wide open division.

How many years left does Gay have on his deal? That doesn't sound like something the Bulls would do if the plan was to rebuild.

He has a $19 mil player option in 2014-15. Bulls aren't touching that with a 10 foot pole.

I totally forgot until after I posted it. I thought he was a FA

Red Larrivee · Post #252 » by **Red Larrivee** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:55 pm

Ralphb07 wrote:Deng and Boozer for Gay, Amir and Acy. That would certainly help Toronto in that wide open division.

Why would we want Gay if the object is to bottom out? Amir Johnson is actually a solid player too, so we would probably still be competitive.

Ralphb07 · Post #253 » by **Ralphb07** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:57 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:
Ralphb07 wrote:Deng and Boozer for Gay, Amir and Acy. That would certainly help Toronto in that wide open division.

Why would we want Gay if the object is to bottom out? Amir Johnson is actually a solid player too, so we would probably still be competitive.

I had a brain fart. I was thinking to get pure expiring which Gay is not.

TankJob · Post #254 » by **TankJob** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:58 pm

Chi town wrote:
Mech Engineer wrote:I think with Kobe signing a new deal, the Lakers are in play for Deng now.

Agreed. Don't see how they give us salary relief or a solid pick though.

The Lakers are going for 2015. I think and that's why Deng wouldn't spoil their plans to get one of the major free agents in that summer.

Getting and extending Deng would kill their chances to go for Melo though, but I don't think they are high on him at all.

No team is giving you a solid first round pick for Deng, I wouldn't mind their high pick and a salary relief.

TankJob · Post #255 » by **TankJob** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:01 pm

Ralphb07 wrote:Bulls need to shop Boozer and Deng ASAP. Start preparing for the future here

Boozer wouldn't bring you anything other than some sucky contracts than can ruin the 2014. & 2015. salary cap.

If we miss on Melo the next summer, I would even keep Booz and try to swing him for Love/LMA to balance the trade. If Melo wants to come, you can always amnesty Boozer.

Gibson is the one that must be shopped though.

Post #256 » by **Payt10** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:02 pm

Marc Stein just tweeted the Kings are aggressively shopping for a SF in a trade.

AAU Teammate · Post #257 » by **AAU Teammate** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:02 pm

What did Marc Stein say exactly, re Sacto?

Ralphb07 · Post #258 » by **Ralphb07** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:03 pm

TankJob wrote:
Chi town wrote:
Mech Engineer wrote:I think with Kobe signing a new deal, the Lakers are in play for Deng now.

Agreed. Don't see how they give us salary relief or a solid pick though.

The Lakers are going for 2015. I think and that's why Deng wouldn't spoil their plans to get one of the major free agents in that summer.

Getting and extending Deng would kill their chances to go for Melo though, but I don't think they are high on him at all.

No team is giving you a solid first round pick for Deng, I wouldn't mind their high pick and a salary relief.

The only LAL and Chi deal that would work is Gasol, Blake and Kelly for Deng and Boozer. That trade saves the Bulls 6 mil. They can then deal Kirk and might get under the LT

weneeda2guard · Post #259 » by **weneeda2guard** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:05 pm

My hopes to turn lemons to lemonades

A top 5 pick in this year draft

Enough cap space to sign 2 all star level players

Post #260 » by **Payt10** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:06 pm

AAU Teammate wrote:What did Marc Stein say exactly, re Sacto?

Actually, this is the tweet I read. Not sure if it was a tweet from Stein or where that information came from.

Chicago Bulls Rumors ‏@chicagobullsbot 5m

Sacramento Kings are aggressively pursuing trade options to land a Small Forward [Could have interest in Luol Deng]. (Source: Marc Stein)