(Optimistically) Best Case Offseason Discussion

[sco]

Now that AD is gone, here is my optimistic case (if jrue ain't available):

- draft garland
- sign brogdon+beverley
- sign noah on vet min
- Dunn disappears for any sort of value (or is fine playing a reduced bench role)

Brogdon/Lavine/OPJ/Lauri/WCJ
Garland/Beverley/Val/Hutch/Noah
Archie/blakeney/#38/#38/Felicio

I think this is pretty well balanced. Might need another vet 3 and vet big.

I guess it comes down to if Garland/Val/Hutch can be valuable bench contributors

I like the way you think. I think we won't have enough $ to sign Beverly if we sing Brogdon. Also, while not a big problem, I'm not sure the FO would go after Brogdon if they draft Garland. I could see either Brogdon and Hunter/Culver or Garland/Beverly happening.

I'd be most happy with Brogdon because I think he's underrated and has the highest ceiling of all PG's being discussed and the most complementary to our scheme/core. I like Beverly because signing him would allow us to sign another quality FA rotation player like a Marcus Morris, Noel or KCP.

[PaKii94]

Now that AD is gone, here is my optimistic case (if jrue ain't available):

- draft garland
- sign brogdon+beverley
- sign noah on vet min
- Dunn disappears for any sort of value (or is fine playing a reduced bench role)

Brogdon/Lavine/OPJ/Lauri/WCJ
Garland/Beverley/Val/Hutch/Noah
Archie/blakeney/#38/#38/Felicio

I think this is pretty well balanced. Might need another vet 3 and vet big.

I guess it comes down to if Garland/Val/Hutch can be valuable bench contributors

I like the way you think. I think we won't have enough $ to sign Beverly if we sing Brogdon. Also, while not a big problem, I'm not sure the FO would go after Brogdon if they draft Garland. I could see either Brogdon and Hunter/Culver or Garland/Beverly happening.

I'd be most happy with Brogdon because I think he's underrated and has the highest ceiling of all PG's being discussed and the most complementary to our scheme/core. I like Beverly because signing him would allow us to sign another quality FA rotation player like a Marcus Morris, Noel or KCP.

I do think money will be tight for both brogdon + bev however I am secretly hoping Bev will take a hometown discount of the MLE.

Also, i think Garland could work with Brogdon with brogdon being the offguard with him. Garland + Lavine don't project to be the best fit together but the other combos make Brogdon as the third guard worth while (Brogdon/Lavine, Garland/Brogdon)


If the money doesn't work, backup plan is Rose+ Bev and keep Dunn, bringing Garland up to speed slowly (until Dunn is traded I guess):

Bev/Lavine/OPJ/Lauri/WCJ
Rose/Dunn/Val/Hutch/Noah
Garland/blakeney/#38/#38/Felicio

[sco]

Now that AD is gone, here is my optimistic case (if jrue ain't available):

- draft garland
- sign brogdon+beverley
- sign noah on vet min
- Dunn disappears for any sort of value (or is fine playing a reduced bench role)

Brogdon/Lavine/OPJ/Lauri/WCJ
Garland/Beverley/Val/Hutch/Noah
Archie/blakeney/#38/#38/Felicio

I think this is pretty well balanced. Might need another vet 3 and vet big.

I guess it comes down to if Garland/Val/Hutch can be valuable bench contributors

I like the way you think. I think we won't have enough $ to sign Beverly if we sing Brogdon. Also, while not a big problem, I'm not sure the FO would go after Brogdon if they draft Garland. I could see either Brogdon and Hunter/Culver or Garland/Beverly happening.

I'd be most happy with Brogdon because I think he's underrated and has the highest ceiling of all PG's being discussed and the most complementary to our scheme/core. I like Beverly because signing him would allow us to sign another quality FA rotation player like a Marcus Morris, Noel or KCP.

I do think money will be tight for both brogdon + bev however I am secretly hoping Bev will take a hometown discount of the MLE.

Also, i think Garland could work with Brogdon with brogdon being the offguard with him. Garland + Lavine don't project to be the best fit together but the other combos make Brogdon as the third guard worth while (Brogdon/Lavine, Garland/Brogdon)


If the money doesn't work, backup plan is Rose+ Bev and keep Dunn, bringing Garland up to speed slowly (until Dunn is traded I guess):

Bev/Lavine/OPJ/Lauri/WCJ
Rose/Dunn/Val/Hutch/Noah
Garland/blakeney/#38/#38/Felicio

No way you get Beverly for $4.6M. LA will offer $7-9M. My cheap solution for Garland pairing would be to resign Shaq on vet min. I saw a rumor somewhere that there are issues with Rose such that he's not on the FO radar.

[PaKii94]

I like the way you think. I think we won't have enough $ to sign Beverly if we sing Brogdon. Also, while not a big problem, I'm not sure the FO would go after Brogdon if they draft Garland. I could see either Brogdon and Hunter/Culver or Garland/Beverly happening.

I'd be most happy with Brogdon because I think he's underrated and has the highest ceiling of all PG's being discussed and the most complementary to our scheme/core. I like Beverly because signing him would allow us to sign another quality FA rotation player like a Marcus Morris, Noel or KCP.

I do think money will be tight for both brogdon + bev however I am secretly hoping Bev will take a hometown discount of the MLE.

Also, i think Garland could work with Brogdon with brogdon being the offguard with him. Garland + Lavine don't project to be the best fit together but the other combos make Brogdon as the third guard worth while (Brogdon/Lavine, Garland/Brogdon)


If the money doesn't work, backup plan is Rose+ Bev and keep Dunn, bringing Garland up to speed slowly (until Dunn is traded I guess):

Bev/Lavine/OPJ/Lauri/WCJ
Rose/Dunn/Val/Hutch/Noah
Garland/blakeney/#38/#38/Felicio

No way you get Beverly for $4.6M. LA will offer $7-9M. My cheap solution for Garland pairing would be to resign Shaq on vet min. I saw a rumor somewhere that there are issues with Rose such that he's not on the FO radar.

ya that's why it's a pipe dream but I don't think we'll be able to pry away brogdon for cheap anyway. I considered shaq too but he's good for like 9-10th man not really core bench. I don't mind shaq but we need legitimate NBA talent coming off the bench (preferably vets which shaq isn't at this point in time). I don't want to waste another season on the excuse of a weak bench. We need to see if our core young players can step up... and they need talent around them to do that and make lives easier

Do you have a link for the rose rumor? I haven't seen it yet. Both him and bev have been strongly linked to the bulls this off season

[RastaBull]

Best Case starts with Garland being available and drafting him.

From there, reasonably, I'd expect Beverly signing for a creative deal (average out around 10 mil?)

Dunn likely sticks around too; management would get nothing at this point: so either ..
1) play him on bench with Bev/Garland and see if he can find himself, kid still has talent to excel as a defensive specialist (off bench maybe will pull the "hustle" plays out of him too) ... or
2) FO thinks team will push for playoffs and Dunn could have better value as an expiring filler for midseason trade.
- Both present better outcomes then losing him for nothing (UNLESS, there is a max player they can get ... but again, if Garland is our pick I'm less apt to see them pushing for said Max Player)

Not sure how Arci fits (see at bottom). I'd use second round pick on a PG: Edwards would give most instant impact (if available) ... but I'm eyeing more development guys like Kyle Guy (really creative player, lights out shooter, develop some PG skills), Jaylen Hands (all-around balance), and Jalen Lacque (lots of development, but mad raw potential)

So backcourt runs:
Garland / Dunn / (2nd round)
Lavine / Bev / (Val)

With Bev at 10 mil, and Garland cap hold (something like 5-6 mil right?), that's ~11 mil left. With possible 3 mil Asik exemption (again, part of best offseason equation) that's 14 mil. Use that on Taj (or what it would take ... 12?).

We hit salary cap, but still have the partial MLE or whatever it's called, I think at 4.5 mil. Use that on a big that gets lost in FA (there's always several). WCS would be legit (95% likely to get quite a bit more though) ... Noel? Zubac? Vonleh? Kleber?

Front Court runs:
Porter / Val / Hutch
Lauri / Taj / (Hutch)
WCJ / Taj / Kleber

You have Blakeney still, but honestly I love Shaq more. Think someone else will sign him to a fair contract.

Even at salary cap, we can still sign Selden to a 2-year (Early Bird) deal ... and can go up to 8-9 per year (NBA average salary) ... but I give him a 2yr 6mil. Still young, I liked him a lot from eye test, he seemed to play hard under Boylen and mesh with team chemistry real well. But I know he is not very efficient or specialized in anything. Doubt FO does this (always solid finding vet min. level guys on one-year deals)

Not sure Arci fits in anywhere, I'd expect he'd get some bids from other teams. I guess you could use the partial MLE on him instead of a 4th big (would be solid insurance if Dunn is still bust in bench role or traded). In that case, second round pick would be 4th big (Gafford/Naz Reid/Tacko)

[Peelboy]

Garland is my #1 option by far, to the point where I'd trade up to get him giving up a top 8-10 protected #1 next year. Then I have White as a sliver ahead of Hunter - Hunter likely a better pro but White close enough that positionally he makes a bigger impact for this team. I feel like White could be for Bulls what DeAaron Fox is for Kings.

But as a fallback, Hunter would be a good get, particularly if you then sign Beverley. A PG trio of Beverley, Dunn, Arch is solid enough. Plus there will be some time with Lavine or no "true" PG and you can run Lavine/Hunter/Otto at 1-3.

If Hunter at 7, then I'd cross my fingers for Ty Jerome in the 2d. If it's Garland/White then a wing or maybe a big if someone falls. I'm intrigued by Tacko Fall only because if he can stay on the floor, he can be dominant on the boards and bklocking shots. If he can be in a lineup with enough D that he's not isolated against a G/SF on the perimeter. But imagining him rolling to the hoop or setting screens on the PnR is a nice thing to do.

[logical_art]

FA: Beverly + Taj
Draft: Garland + Gafford