The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall.

[Brothaman33]

At his size, rare athletic tools. How many guys in the league can compare at any one time? A few.

He is 6'7 (some have him at 6'8) 220 lbs.

There are a ton of guys at that size AND at his athleticism that work at Best But after flaming out.

If you look at a player for just his upside...I don't see enough upside. If he completely maxes out, like reaches the fullest of potential, I still don't know how good that is.

Not one highlight shows any level of advanced ballhandling, of playmaking ability, of a quick shot release, of ANY standout trait.

Again, I'm willing to wait it out, cuz I will give the benefit of the doubt but... I don't know if the best Patrick Williams can be is better then who will be drafted behind him.

There are not a ton of guys at his size built like he is. There just aren’t.

A ton of guys at 6'8 225? Ok, perhaps "a ton" is a bit overkill, but I'm sure you can find a solid amount of college players with his build, and if you stare long enough can see the same potential.

[League Circles]

It's puzzling to me how everyone has been misunderstanding "small ball" for so many years now, perceiving it as some sort of advantage or goal. It's a compromise so you can play fast. Williams seems plenty, plenty fast to play SF to me (and big enough to play PF). You actually want to play "big ball" whenever you can. If you have an athlete like a Kawhi, Lebron, PG etc, which possibly Williams could be (not suggesting that caliber of player but possibly as an athlete and defender), you play them at SF.

[D_GoLow]

My hope is he gets to Luol Deng level.

I still trust AK - so we'll see.

Deng should be his floor.

If he gets to Deng level, we should all do cartwheels. A Deng level player at 4 in this draft is a complete success.

He's bigger, stronger, faster, possibly a better shooter/shot creator

Both good glue guys.

[VolumePoster]

[gfycat][/gfycat]

I want this youngin to prove haters wrong. Can't wait to see him in action

Hate is too strong a word. Hate implies personal malice. And there’s nobody on this board that doesn’t want him to be excellent.

Obviously AK, Eversley and Billy see something I don’t. That’s why they’re basketball executives.

I can’t wait to see him too. Does he back up OPJ?

[Mk0]

Spoiler:

This is straight blasphemy. There is only one #4 in Chicago and it is retired. Put some respect on his name!

[MGB8]

There are not a ton of guys at his size built like he is. There just aren’t.

Eh.... OG, Wes Iwundu, PJ Tucker, Nasir Little, Stanley Johnson, MKG, Torrey Craig, RHJ, Brandon Clarke, Tobias Harris...

[erlim]

No doubt we have a roster full of guys who are just confused. With Chandler Hutchinson being mildly annoyed he will have somebody under him gunning for his playing time. I’m sure nobody is enthused to be playing with this new guy.

[weneeda2guard]

There's going to be A LOT of crow being served by the quick takes in this thread.

Pat Will will be fine. Mock drafts in a pandemic year still had him rocketing up boards quickly. This isn't a reach and even if it is, it won't matter if he was picked 4th, 7th, or 10th when he's putting up numbers in the future...

I want to eat crow so bad. I got my red hot hot sauce ready for the crow

But I was coming into this draft with this belief that AK and eversly would be the shrewed operators, and with this pick its a part of me that feels like we actually got played. It feels like someone sold us the hype so the better prospects could fall and we drunk the kool aid. No telling the next time we get a pick this high again we really needed a home run here. I'm not seeing a prospect with any more potential than a Carter jr or Hutchinson. We really needed more than that.

[MisterRoy]

[gfycat][/gfycat]

I want this youngin to prove haters wrong. Can't wait to see him in action

Hate is too strong a word. Hate implies personal malice. And there’s nobody on this board that doesn’t want him to be excellent.

Obviously AK, Eversley and Billy see something I don’t. That’s why they’re basketball executives.

I can’t wait to see him too. Does he back up OPJ?

...or does he make OPJ expendible. Maybe we can now use his contract to get someone.


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[MisterRoy]

There's going to be A LOT of crow being served by the quick takes in this thread.

Pat Will will be fine. Mock drafts in a pandemic year still had him rocketing up boards quickly. This isn't a reach and even if it is, it won't matter if he was picked 4th, 7th, or 10th when he's putting up numbers in the future...

I want to eat crow so bad. I got my red hot hot sauce ready for the crow

But I was coming into this draft with this belief that AK and eversly would be the shrewed operators, and with this pick its a part of me that feels like we actually got played. It feels like someone sold us the hype so the better prospects could fall and we drunk the kool aid. No telling the next time we get a pick this high again we really needed a home run here. I'm not seeing a prospect with any more potential than a Carter jr or Hutchinson. We really needed more than that.

It's tough cause we didn't get to see him play in the tournament. We have to wait and see.


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[Big Pippen]

Michael Beasley. But he has an above average offensive game.

Jamal Mashburn

Well I was at the UC once when Jamal Mashburn lit up HOF’er Scottie Pippen for 50 points. So that’s something.

I was at that game too! I think I was a sophomore in high school.

If Williams is smart and hard working, yeah, the Deng comp could be a good one. Bodies are similar, Luol had a good motor and sneaky strength. Score off the ball. Thats a solid comp.

[Bankshot]

Watch on YouTube

This was 7 months ago......

[TheStig]

I don't understand the hate. The kid has been skyrocketing up the draft boards for months. It's been so long since the end of NCAA and his movement clearly shows he's been working. For all we know, the kid has been busting his ass, adding to his game and is well above where he was in college. I can't see any other reason he'd skyrocket up the boards. I wanted Wiseman or Edwards but I'm happy to have someone everyone wanted and AKME would stake their first pick on. Let's see what he can do before we all are disappointed.

[MGB8]

There's going to be A LOT of crow being served by the quick takes in this thread.

Pat Will will be fine. Mock drafts in a pandemic year still had him rocketing up boards quickly. This isn't a reach and even if it is, it won't matter if he was picked 4th, 7th, or 10th when he's putting up numbers in the future...

I want to eat crow so bad. I got my red hot hot sauce ready for the crow

But I was coming into this draft with this belief that AK and eversly would be the shrewed operators, and with this pick its a part of me that feels like we actually got played. It feels like someone sold us the hype so the better prospects could fall and we drunk the kool aid. No telling the next time we get a pick this high again we really needed a home run here. I'm not seeing a prospect with any more potential than a Carter jr or Hutchinson. We really needed more than that.

I wouldn’t go quite that far. The more I think about it, the more the Nasir Little comp makes sense. And little in this draft would not be such a terrible thing at 4, even with his uninspiring freshman year. Williams didn’t have that kind of hype coming into the NCAA, but I’m not sure that there is any less raw talent. Still would have preferred many other options - to include a move up - but I do see the upside case - though the lack of a super first step is a limiting thing, along with less perimeter movement (“heavier feet”) than what is ideal for a 3. We’ll have to see.

[VolumePoster]

[gfycat][/gfycat]

I want this youngin to prove haters wrong. Can't wait to see him in action

Hate is too strong a word. Hate implies personal malice. And there’s nobody on this board that doesn’t want him to be excellent.

Obviously AK, Eversley and Billy see something I don’t. That’s why they’re basketball executives.

I can’t wait to see him too. Does he back up OPJ?

...or does he make OPJ expendible. Maybe we can now use his contract to get someone.

Either OPJ or Thad young likely.




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[Chicago-Bull-E]

No doubt we have a roster full of guys who are just confused. With Chandler Hutchinson being mildly annoyed he will have somebody under him gunning for his playing time. I’m sure nobody is enthused to be playing with this new guy.

This can be said about literally every player drafted, unless a team drafts a player with no players of that position on their roster, which is never.

Hutchinson? That dude would be lucky to get a meaningful second contract. Patrick is already higher than him on the depth chart.

[Grodoboldo]

Years and years complaining about a FO that plays it safe.
8 **** months in the draft thread stating that this is a **** draft and prospects 4-20 are on the same level.
Everybody believes that you draft BPA and ignore fit.

And all that goes out the window when we pick Pat Will.

Just... Breath, guys.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

This thread is borderline toxic. Posters that haven’t been seen in months pop in to give their expert takes on the pick, with logic that boggles the mind.

[erlim]

[gfycat][/gfycat]

I want this youngin to prove haters wrong. Can't wait to see him in action

Hate is too strong a word. Hate implies personal malice. And there’s nobody on this board that doesn’t want him to be excellent.

Obviously AK, Eversley and Billy see something I don’t. That’s why they’re basketball executives.

I can’t wait to see him too. Does he back up OPJ?

...or does he make OPJ expendible. Maybe we can now use his contract to get someone.


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It’s optimistic but possible we can shed OPJ’s 28 mil contract and just play for the draft again. I mean it seems like we’d be playing for the lotto anyway, but Hutchinson or perhaps new guy at the 3 could net us another chance not to mess up the 4th pick in 2021-2022 season again.

[Southpaw]

^This! We're all mostly basing our judgement from tape a couple of months ago whereas the executives who are drafting at least has seen him in action recently. And he's been steadily rising in the mocks the past week or so. It has to mean he's improved from the last time he played college ball.