NBA Trade Thread # 3

[Kukoc-Lauri]

Warriors fan here and I come in peace. What would it take to get Lavine from you guys? I think Wiseman is off the table fwiw. I’m sure everyone will be requesting the Minny pick (which I personally would give up). If so, what would be the salary fillers ?

Oubre,Paschall and Minny pick for Lavine. Bulls then send Oubre for Ball. Bulls out Lavine. Bulls in Minesotta top ten pick 4-10 in 2021, Lonzo Ball, Eric Paschall.

[WindyCityBorn]

That’s steep. It seems Lavine’s value varies greatly even among Bulls fans. I have read from some Bulls fans on this site that the pick would be enough. He’s one of the most polarizing players discussed on Realgm. Can’t blame you for asking such a high price. He’s an Allstar level player. Life is funny, some Warriors fans don’t want him whatever the price Too funny

I think min first, gsw, and few minor assets get it done. no one really cares abt wiseman im ok with it.

That’s a no from me.

Hell no from me. I don’t want to trade LaVine at all, but I’m sure as Heck not trading for a draft pick. Gotta be getting similar talent of similar age back. No one in this draft looks like a sure fire star. For a draft it would I have be getting someone like Zion. Cade and none of these others are close to that.

[Dez]

Warriors fan here and I come in peace. What would it take to get Lavine from you guys? I think Wiseman is off the table fwiw. I’m sure everyone will be requesting the Minny pick (which I personally would give up). If so, what would be the salary fillers ?

Oubre,Paschall and Minny pick for Lavine. Bulls then send Oubre for Ball. Bulls out Lavine. Bulls in Minesotta top ten pick 4-10 in 2021, Lonzo Ball, Eric Paschall.

That's a big no from Chicago.

[PrimzyBulls81]

thank god for that FOE setup in this board! This Lauri-Kukoc guy is spamming this board with his 10000 nonsense trades every freaking day

[RSP83]

I want Lonzo Ball and Jackson Hayes, who do we have to give up though

Someone that Pels don't have to pay immediately, like Coby and Wendell.

[sco]

At least Thad is getting some love as a trade target now...heard his name as a potential trade target for Heat on ESPN.

I would like to keep him, but if we need to dump either him or Lauri at the deadline, IMO (although I prefer to dump Lauri, who is a RFA next season).

[ChettheJet]

Injuries seem to have almost ruled out being able to trade, Porter's expiring contract could make a deal in some circumstances, Hutchison's short term low money could have figured in, Markkanen still having potential as a pending FA could move, Carter on a rookie deal all could have been dealt near the deadline if the right team was interested.

That leaves Lavine, Young and Satoransky. Lavine would have to bring a player with some potential and picks that would pay off quickly. Young would need to return expiring contracts or it's just as well to keep him. Satoransky pretty much the same.

So unless some of the injured group comes back quickly and can show something it's basically who could they get for Lavine. And I'm coming around to maybe that's what to do. Zach wants desperately to be THE MAN, but of late most of the talk is he needs to start games getting his teammates involved or take control and score early. Why can't he just pay in the flow with everybody else? Then in the last 5 games he's wanted the ball to close out the game and he's flubbed it. He got caught in the jump ball grab vs PORT then the last game clanked the layup.

Always talked about is GSW but what about Orlando. They have Fournier expiring and Fultz and Isaac out until next year. Why not get Lavine to carry over to 2022 to either help ease the injured guys back or join them if they're healthy. How you expand the deal beyond those 2 who knows. The Bulls make the effort to resign Fournier with their cap space a year earlier than they would have been looking at resigning Zach.

the Knicks have the picks but no players to send back. The 76ers have some players but their picks figure to be 25 or later for a long time.

[thedarkstark]

OPJ, WCJ, Lauri for a bag of chips.

are they magic chips?

Nope, regular chips. They're pickle flavored, and they're stale.

[mtron32]

I want Lonzo Ball and Jackson Hayes, who do we have to give up though

Someone that Pels don't have to pay immediately, like Coby and Wendell.

I don't want to lose WCJ but I'd let him ship out for Hayes

[Kukoc-Lauri]

I dont believe that Bob Myers as smart as he is would even consider to offer Minny pick for Lavine. They would offer that pick for Simmons,Beal real difference maker or better fit like Turner not for Lavine. But if there is offer on table Bulls should jump on that. Green,J.Johnson,Kumminga,Z.Williams on 4 year rookie deal alongside future first from Warriors and young player/s with upside like Paschall/Mannion/Smajlagic is lot better for rebuilding team than paying 190 mil for Lavine to reach 8 seed at best or 6 seed with Lavine and Drummond (fa in 21) as max players. I would rather be really bad for two years but have core of Williams, 2 top 10 picks in 21 and top pick in 22 than have celling as 6 seed with Lavine and Drummond. This trade dead line is perfect time for trading Lavine, given his stats, contract and market offer/supply.

[HoopsterJones]

I read somewhere that the Knicks are interested in Markkanen. He'd be a good fit to balance out the poor offense of Robinson.

Bulls get Noel and Payton
Knicks get Markkanen and Kornet

Hard pass on this.

[gobullschi]

Chicago Receives:
Lonzo Ball
John Collins
Andre Drummond

New Orleans Receives:
Lauri Markkanen

Atlanta Receives:
Coby White

Cleveland Receives:
OPJ + 2 2nd Round Picks

Lonzo Ball / Tomas Satoransky
Zach LaVine / Garrett Temple
Patrick Williams / Chandler Hutchison
John Collins / Thaddeus Young
Andre Drummond / Wendell Carter Jr.

[LateNight]

Injuries seem to have almost ruled out being able to trade, Porter's expiring contract could make a deal in some circumstances, Hutchison's short term low money could have figured in, Markkanen still having potential as a pending FA could move, Carter on a rookie deal all could have been dealt near the deadline if the right team was interested.

That leaves Lavine, Young and Satoransky. Lavine would have to bring a player with some potential and picks that would pay off quickly. Young would need to return expiring contracts or it's just as well to keep him. Satoransky pretty much the same.

So unless some of the injured group comes back quickly and can show something it's basically who could they get for Lavine. And I'm coming around to maybe that's what to do. Zach wants desperately to be THE MAN, but of late most of the talk is he needs to start games getting his teammates involved or take control and score early. Why can't he just pay in the flow with everybody else? Then in the last 5 games he's wanted the ball to close out the game and he's flubbed it. He got caught in the jump ball grab vs PORT then the last game clanked the layup.

Always talked about is GSW but what about Orlando. They have Fournier expiring and Fultz and Isaac out until next year. Why not get Lavine to carry over to 2022 to either help ease the injured guys back or join them if they're healthy. How you expand the deal beyond those 2 who knows. The Bulls make the effort to resign Fournier with their cap space a year earlier than they would have been looking at resigning Zach.

the Knicks have the picks but no players to send back. The 76ers have some players but their picks figure to be 25 or later for a long time.

I don’t understand this logic.

You don’t shop Zach just because there’s no market for the other players.

Trading someone just to trade someone is a bad plan. If you can’t get anything for these players then you just wait and make off-season moves.

[Kukoc-Lauri]

Atlanta would never trade Collins for White. Maybe if Bulls attached unprotected 21 first. This is like perfect example of spam trade. Why would Atlanta wish to aquire one of the worst players in Nba according to lot of stats for one of the most productive players in whole Nba 20&10 guy with high efficency. Even if they dont want to pay him max contract they could always sign and trade him for high future first and sallaries or for similar impact player who is better positional fit like Ingram,Porzingis,Jaylen Brown,Beal. Dont see any team offering first round pick for Coby White. His trade value is mid second rounder.

[gobullschi]

Atlanta would never trade Collins for White. Maybe if Bulls attached unprotected 21 first. This is like perfect example of spam trade. Why would Atlanta wish to aquire one of the worst players in Nba according to lot of stats for one of the most productive players in whole Nba 20&10 guy with high efficency. Even if they dont want to pay him max contract they could always sign and trade him for high future first and sallaries or for similar impact player who is better positional fit like Ingram,Porzingis,Jaylen Brown,Beal. Dont see any team offering first round pick for Coby White. His trade value is mid second rounder.

Bro... You can just ignore my posts and I can do the same. We never agree on anything and frankly your attitude on here is exhausting. Your strong opinions are not shared by many on here and your posts are structured/formatted so poorly, they are very difficult to follow.

Atlanta could not reach a deal with Collins and they drafted Okongwu as a replacement. There is a very good chance Collins is playing on a different team next year. No lottery team is going to agree to a sign and trade with Atlanta when they can simply sign him instead and no team is moving any of the players you listed for Collins.

[sco]

Atlanta would never trade Collins for White. Maybe if Bulls attached unprotected 21 first. This is like perfect example of spam trade. Why would Atlanta wish to aquire one of the worst players in Nba according to lot of stats for one of the most productive players in whole Nba 20&10 guy with high efficency. Even if they dont want to pay him max contract they could always sign and trade him for high future first and sallaries or for similar impact player who is better positional fit like Ingram,Porzingis,Jaylen Brown,Beal. Dont see any team offering first round pick for Coby White. His trade value is mid second rounder.

Yeah...gotta agree that White value maxed out this past offseason. We can only hope he has a similar 2nd half resurgence this season and pull the trigger then.

[gobullschi]

Atlanta would never trade Collins for White. Maybe if Bulls attached unprotected 21 first. This is like perfect example of spam trade. Why would Atlanta wish to aquire one of the worst players in Nba according to lot of stats for one of the most productive players in whole Nba 20&10 guy with high efficency. Even if they dont want to pay him max contract they could always sign and trade him for high future first and sallaries or for similar impact player who is better positional fit like Ingram,Porzingis,Jaylen Brown,Beal. Dont see any team offering first round pick for Coby White. His trade value is mid second rounder.

Yeah...gotta agree that White value maxed out this past offseason. We can only hope he has a similar 2nd half resurgence this season and pull the trigger then.

I’m trying to figure out what Atlanta is looking for if Collins isn’t in their long term plans. Maybe the Bulls add a protected 1st with Coby?

Hopefully Coby gets out of this funk and has a good month to recoup some of the value he’s lost already.

[sco]

Atlanta would never trade Collins for White. Maybe if Bulls attached unprotected 21 first. This is like perfect example of spam trade. Why would Atlanta wish to aquire one of the worst players in Nba according to lot of stats for one of the most productive players in whole Nba 20&10 guy with high efficency. Even if they dont want to pay him max contract they could always sign and trade him for high future first and sallaries or for similar impact player who is better positional fit like Ingram,Porzingis,Jaylen Brown,Beal. Dont see any team offering first round pick for Coby White. His trade value is mid second rounder.

Yeah...gotta agree that White value maxed out this past offseason. We can only hope he has a similar 2nd half resurgence this season and pull the trigger then.

I’m trying to figure out what Atlanta is looking for if Collins isn’t in their long term plans. Maybe the Bulls add a protected 1st with Coby?

Hopefully Coby gets out of this funk and has a good month to recoup some of the value he’s lost already.

What about Lauri? I'd be happy to throw in Coby, Hutch, Gafford, Sato, Val, Temple.

[Kukoc-Lauri]

It doesent really matter what is my opinion or yours on trade value of Lavine and White, but my educated guess formed on reading interwievs with Nba gm-s,scouts and insiders and listening podcasts with Nba personell is that Lavine is overated by majority of Bulls fans and the same goes with White. On other hand Markkanen and Carter have much better reputation in Nba circles than on Bulls forum. Whatever Hawks are looking for Collins, i am posittive that they are not looking for Coby White, even in theirs worst nightmares.

[gobullschi]

It doesent really matter what is my opinion or yours on trade value of Lavine and White, but my educated guess formed on reading interwievs with Nba gm-s,scouts and insiders and listening podcasts with Nba personell is that Lavine is overated by majority of Bulls fans and the same goes with White. On other hand Markkanen and Carter have much better reputation in Nba circles than on Bulls forum. Whatever Hawks are looking for Collins, i am posittive that they are not looking for Coby White, even in theirs worst nightmares.

You always reference NBA GMs, scouts, insiders, etc. Please share links to all of this stuff.