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NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

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Young
27
16%
Carter
42
25%
Porter
75
44%
Bridges
15
9%
Knox
6
4%
Sexton
5
3%
 
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2441 » by Repeat 3-peat » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:55 am

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Just doing a mock if this did happen.

Suns: Ayton
Kings: Bagley
Magic: Doncic
Memphis: (Bamba and JJJ do not want to go there, do they go MPJ? or WCJ?)
Dallas: Bamba/JJJ
Hawks: Young
Bulls Bamba/JJJ/MPJ
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2442 » by bad knees » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:56 am

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bad knees wrote:7 and Portis for 4 and Parsons.

Then waive/stretch Parsons so his contract is 10 M over 5 years.

Portis will likely get a 4/40 contract next summer anyway. So the cap hit from Portis will essentially be the same as Parsons' stretched contract, starting next year. And the extra 8 M cap hit this year is basically irrelevant.

So the net substance of the trade is 7 and Portis for 4, without any real salary cap implications. This is a small price to pay for the opportunity to move up from 7 (where our options are undesireable) to 4 (where we will likely get to choose from Bamba and JJJ).


Makes way more sense to pay Parsons this year and stretch next year. Who is the big free agent we would want this summer?
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You are right. But remember, it's the Bulls we are talking about here. They will still want to re-sign LaVine.

If they take Parsons and pay his full salary this year, then they will essentially be at the cap, and signing LaVine will take them over the cap. If they stretch Parsons this summer, that's 14 M that goes right into the Reinsdorf's pocket (the difference between 24 m and 10 M).
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2443 » by Truebiscuit » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:56 am

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90% its Porter left at 7.


That's what my gut is telling me as well
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2444 » by Betta Bulleavit » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:59 am

My gut instinct is that Doncic is going to go 2 to the Kings, which is going to be a game changer for us. The asking price for number three and four drops substantially at that point in my opinion.
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Post#2445 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:59 am

So we're back to Porter? I'm fine with that.
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Post#2446 » by jsully84 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:01 am

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4. Memphis=Bamba and JJJ both refused to workout/give medical records, so do they take a chance of MPJ or trade down?
5.Dallas-I would think Bamba would be the pick here

If I told you a few weeks ago that the Bulls would walk away from this draft with JJJ and still keep pick #22, would you have believed me? I would be ecstatic if this happens.
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Post#2447 » by Darius Miles Davis » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:01 am

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Yes, and it will probably be Michael Porter and his back.


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Post#2448 » by Jcool0 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:02 am

and so it begins

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Post#2449 » by NecessaryEvil » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:02 am

From the couch, Bamba watches himself on the living-room TV launch jumpers from the perimeter, another in the series of video clips anywhere in length between 20 seconds to three minutes assembled for him by Hanlen's lead videographer. He's immediately drawn to his mechanics, specifically the alignment of the right side of his body as he moves into his stroke.

"Think of it as a line that connects three dots," he says while tracing that line with his left index finger. "Your hip, to your armpit, to your elbow. Ideally, this should be a 90-degree angle. I have long arms, so it's hard."

Bamba motions back to the screen and a paused image of him releasing a top-of-the-arc jumper in his burnt-orange Longhorns jersey in a game at TCU. A large graphic appears at the bottom of the screen -- a timer that starts from 0.00 -- as he catches the ball. The video resumes and the clock times Bamba's shot, which falls through the net, at 0.93 seconds.

"You see how far back it is?" Bamba asks, examining the angle of his upper arm. "I was shooting at 122 degrees. It's way up here. It might go in, but it takes longer and doesn't go in as softly."

Look where I'm releasing," Bamba says. "Now it's about 105 degrees -- not 90, but it's a lot better. Those degrees speaks volumes."


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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2450 » by Chi town » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:02 am

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Truebiscuit wrote:
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Just doing a mock if this did happen.

Suns: Ayton
Kings: Bagley
Magic: Doncic
Memphis: (Bamba and JJJ do not want to go there, do they go MPJ? or WCJ?)
Dallas: Bamba/JJJ
Hawks: Young
Bulls Bamba/JJJ/MPJ


Yep. Grizz take Carter. We get JJJ or Bamba. I’d be happy w that.
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Post#2451 » by Chi town » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:04 am

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4. Memphis=Bamba and JJJ both refused to workout/give medical records, so do they take a chance of MPJ or trade down?
5.Dallas-I would think Bamba would be the pick here

If I told you a few weeks ago that the Bulls would walk away from this draft with JJJ and still keep pick #22, would you have believed me? I would be ecstatic if this happens.


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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2452 » by Repeat 3-peat » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:04 am

Chi town wrote:
G Buckets wrote:
Truebiscuit wrote:
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Just doing a mock if this did happen.

Suns: Ayton
Kings: Bagley
Magic: Doncic
Memphis: (Bamba and JJJ do not want to go there, do they go MPJ? or WCJ?)
Dallas: Bamba/JJJ
Hawks: Young
Bulls Bamba/JJJ/MPJ


Yep. Grizz take Carter. We get JJJ or Bamba. I’d be happy w that.


If they want Carter, that has to be our shot to move up if they want Bamba since it's unlikely he get past Dallas
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2453 » by Darius Miles Davis » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:04 am

bad knees wrote:
Darius Miles Davis wrote:
bad knees wrote:7 and Portis for 4 and Parsons.

Then waive/stretch Parsons so his contract is 10 M over 5 years.

Portis will likely get a 4/40 contract next summer anyway. So the cap hit from Portis will essentially be the same as Parsons' stretched contract, starting next year. And the extra 8 M cap hit this year is basically irrelevant.

So the net substance of the trade is 7 and Portis for 4, without any real salary cap implications. This is a small price to pay for the opportunity to move up from 7 (where our options are undesireable) to 4 (where we will likely get to choose from Bamba and JJJ).


Makes way more sense to pay Parsons this year and stretch next year. Who is the big free agent we would want this summer?
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You are right. But remember, it's the Bulls we are talking about here. They will still want to re-sign LaVine.

If they take Parsons and pay his full salary this year, then they will essentially be at the cap, and signing LaVine will take them over the cap. If they stretch Parsons this summer, that's 14 M that goes right into the Reinsdorf's pocket (the difference between 24 m and 10 M).


Honestly, I can’t see the Bulls stretching either one or two years of a deal that rich. Maybe if it meant we signed a top free agent, but otherwise I doubt it.


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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2454 » by biggestbullsfan » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:06 am

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I’m really happy with those options
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2455 » by fleet » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:07 am

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Shoot. If Atlanta’s set on moving back for Trae, Orlando can block our move-up trade by insisting they’ll take Trae at 6.

We still win. Trae at 5 or 6 drops a player to us. I'm rooting for Orlando and Dallas to git er done


To me Luka is a fantastic outcome and MPJ isn’t a good one, so I’m rooting for the Bulls to pony up to get 3 (if that’s even possible).

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I'm still gonna be surprised if the Bulls (or anyone) took Porter over any of the top 6 if available. Or Carter. Porter is an option starting at 8 when reasonable alternatives are gone. Hell maybe even Knox has presented now as a reasonable alternative. Porter is probably a Knick or Cav.
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Post#2456 » by keloms » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:08 am

Jcool0 wrote:and so it begins

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That was part of the Jose Calderon salary dump so they could free up the money to sign Wade.
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Post#2457 » by aguifs » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:08 am

I'm ok with MPJ if we're not able to move up. I think we should settle for the high risk, high reward pick! Pull the trigger Garpax!!!
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Post#2458 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:10 am

Keep it simple - if Trae Young is going in the top 6, 1 of the top prospects will fall to us (JJJ, Bamba, MPJ). Just pick one of them. Stand pat.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2459 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:15 am

fleet wrote:
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fleet wrote:We still win. Trae at 5 or 6 drops a player to us. I'm rooting for Orlando and Dallas to git er done


To me Luka is a fantastic outcome and MPJ isn’t a good one, so I’m rooting for the Bulls to pony up to get 3 (if that’s even possible).

:-?

I'm still gonna be surprised if the Bulls (or anyone) took Porter over any of the top 6 if available. Or Carter. Porter is an option starting at 8 when reasonable alternatives are gone. Hell maybe even Knox has presented now as a reasonable alternative. Porter is probably a Knick or Cav.


Porter has be the guy at 7 unless his back is broken. Carter just screams settling for mediocrity. We need elite talent. We screwed up our tank so we must pay up to move up or take a risk on Porter.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#2460 » by Darius Miles Davis » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:15 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:Keep it simple - if Trae Young is going in the top 6, 1 of the top prospects will fall to us (JJJ, Bamba, MPJ). Just pick one of them. Stand pat.


I don’t know if we view Porter Jr. in that tier because of his back. But if Young goes in front of us, and we want to add Carter to that list, then 2 of JJJ/Bamba/Porter/Carter will drop.


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