OT: COVID-19 thread #2

[2018C3]

Right now, people need a sense of stability. Even if it is binge watching Tiger King.

Agree, I was sort of hoping that when the numbers were looked at in a different way, it would help some peoples ease of mind. I do believe precautions are necessary, but with the way the media is presenting this issue, it can seem even more scary for some than it really is. I wasn't trying to scare people, but give them hope.

My family has been taking this very serious, maybe to the extreme. My brother in law is the only one still working, and he has not even been living in his house with his family and kids, but is instead living with his brother who is also working. My brother and his wife are taking there cloths of in the garage before they enter their own home. I have also been self isolating for weeks. No one in the family celebrated Easter this year, everyone stayed home.

[musiqsoulchild]

Right now, people need a sense of stability. Even if it is binge watching Tiger King.

Agree, I was sort of hoping that when the numbers were looked at in a different way, it would help some peoples ease of mind. I do believe precautions are necessary, but with the way the media is presenting this issue, it can seem even more scary for some than it really is. I wasn't trying to scare people, but give them hope.

My family has been taking this very serious, maybe to the extreme. My brother in law is the only one still working, and he has not even been living in his house with his family and kids, but is instead living with his brother who is also working. My brother and his wife are taking there cloths of in the garage before they enter their own home. I have also been self isolating for weeks. No one in the family celebrated Easter this year, everyone stayed home.

Good for you mate! Let's all keep it that way until the governmental structures figures out how to open the economy up

[2018C3]

Lol, I think most of us already flew through Tiger king, Ozark, and lots of other recent programs.

What else is a good watch on Netflix's that might not be as new, but is also worth watching?

I watched "Mud" last night, and that was pretty good.

[Dresden]

Well, this should help. We're cutting funding to the WHO. In what is a classic case of projection, the president said:
"And the World – WHO – World Health got it wrong," the president told reporters at the White House last week. "I mean, they got it very wrong. In many ways, they were wrong. They also minimized the threat very strongly and – not good."

[DuckIII]

That claim is especially laughable given that he didn't have the courage to ever issue a national shelter in place order, because he was afraid of the political fallout he might receive, especially from republican leaning states, which have been some of the slowest to adopt such measures.

He’ll get laughed out of court based on hundreds of years of federalism precedent if he tries to force states from lifting emergency measures. It’s not about the law. It’s about politics.

It will provide him with the farcical arguments he needs to blame the economy on “democrats and liberal activist judges.”

And it will work because our citizens are by and large constitutionally illiterate.

And in turn, I don't believe state govts. have the ability to overturn local ordinances. San Francisco County, for instance, began a shelter in place order prior to the state declaring one. This was in the news just now, about our governor, Gavin Newsom: "As chief executive, Newsom has the power to call off the statewide order, but individual counties can keep their own orders in place. "

It will vary state to state depending on what their respective constitutions and statutes provide for.

[DuckIII]

Lol, I think most of us already flew through Tiger king, Ozark, and lots of other recent programs.

What else is a good watch on Netflix's that might not be as new, but is also worth watching?

I watched "Mud" last night, and that was pretty good.

Peaky Blinders
Don’t F*ck with Cats

[DuckIII]

Well, this should help. We're cutting funding to the WHO. In what is a classic case of projection, the president said:
"And the World – WHO – World Health got it wrong," the president told reporters at the White House last week. "I mean, they got it very wrong. In many ways, they were wrong. They also minimized the threat very strongly and – not good."

The man’s a regular Abe Lincoln level orator.

[dice]

So Trump has now ”total power” At least he think so. I thought US was democrazy? Well live and learn. Number`s are so ugly right now. Glad see governers to keep it smart.

That claim is especially laughable given that he didn't have the courage to ever issue a national shelter in place order, because he was afraid of the political fallout he might receive, especially from republican leaning states, which have been some of the slowest to adopt such measures.

He’ll get laughed out of court...

wouldn't be the first time...or the last

[PlayerUp]

Well, this should help. We're cutting funding to the WHO.

They are freezing funds, not cutting it. Nothing wrong with what his administration did. An investigation should be done on this. WHO looks very corrupt right now and we're paying our tax dollars to fund them when we're $23 trillion in debt ourselves.

[robert76]

Well, this should help. We're cutting funding to the WHO.

They are freezing funds, not cutting it. Nothing wrong with what his administration did. An investigation should be done on this. WHO looks very corrupt right now and we're paying our tax dollars to fund them when we're $23 trillion in debt ourselves.

Somehow, it never is for you... I thought it goes without saying, but I'm gonna say it. This is not the right time to cut ties with the WHO for a made-up accusation. So Trump says WHO was too nice to China. In January or February he was claiming that China did a great job and was very transparent, thanking president Xi in the name of the American people. The same thing he is now accusing the WHO of doing. He's obviously overwhelmed by his task, he's not up to it and he's going back to his old game, finding somebody else to blame, shifting attention on to others, blaming the press for misrepresenting the "amazing" things he does.

[suckfish]

Oops wrong thread.

[The Lurker]

Well, this should help. We're cutting funding to the WHO.

They are freezing funds, not cutting it. Nothing wrong with what his administration did. An investigation should be done on this. WHO looks very corrupt right now and we're paying our tax dollars to fund them when we're $23 trillion in debt ourselves.

Don't try reasoning with these leftists. Somehow, on Real GM, it's okay for them to **** on your views. You're not allowed to share your opinions if you're not a liberal. However, the mods will allow them to turn every conversation anti-Trump. This place is becoming worse than Reddit.

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[bb22]

Well, this should help. We're cutting funding to the WHO.

They are freezing funds, not cutting it. Nothing wrong with what his administration did. An investigation should be done on this. WHO looks very corrupt right now and we're paying our tax dollars to fund them when we're $23 trillion in debt ourselves.

Somehow, it never is for you... I thought it goes without saying, but I'm gonna say it. This is not the right time to cut ties with the WHO for a made-up accusation. So Trump says WHO was too nice to China. In January or February he was claiming that China did a great job and was very transparent, thanking president Xi in the name of the American people. The same thing he is now accusing the WHO of doing. He's obviously overwhelmed by his task, he's not up to it and he's going back to his old game, finding somebody else to blame, shifting attention on to others, blaming the press for misrepresenting the "amazing" things he does.

Ya. The WHO acted almost immediately after being notified by CDC China. So they did the best with what they had.
We will never know if China was slow to react (since they aren’t sharing all of their data), but they did do a good job once things were escalated to the WHO (around Dec 30-31).
Trump and Fox News did a terrible disservice by minimizing the risk in Jan-Feb, when almost everyone knew it would become a pandemic.

[PlayerUp]

Somehow, it never is for you... I thought it goes without saying, but I'm gonna say it. This is not the right time

There will never be a right time. This virus isn't going away in 2020. This could be with us for sometime possibly never go away. The new deadlier flu. If you don't act now, we may never get sufficient answers. Some people want to know what happened here, why over 100,000 have died. China will cover it but WHO will have to provide answers.

to cut ties with the WHO for a made-up accusation.

Cutting ties with WHO? It's freezing new funds to them pending an investigation. It's not like Trump doesn't have a history of holding funds.

The same thing he is now accusing the WHO of doing. He's obviously overwhelmed by his task, he's not up to it and he's going back to his old game, finding somebody else to blame, shifting attention on to others, blaming the press for misrepresenting the "amazing" things he does.

Agree on this. Nobody wants to be involved in this.

[DuckIII]

Well, this should help. We're cutting funding to the WHO.

They are freezing funds, not cutting it. Nothing wrong with what his administration did. An investigation should be done on this. WHO looks very corrupt right now and we're paying our tax dollars to fund them when we're $23 trillion in debt ourselves.

For those not preprogrammed, this is a purely political move along with his criticism of governors. When all the dust settles he will have his fall guys - the WHO for “deceiving” him into not taking this thing seriously, and then the governors who he will blame for not doing enough in the beginning and for being “too slow” to turn the economy back on at the end.

The US can and should take a close look at the WHO, but halting funding in the middle of a pandemic and giving the finger to global efforts is simply malicious.

[DuckIII]

It's not like Trump doesn't have a history of holding funds.

It’s so fittingly awesome that this sentence is part of your defense.

[TheEndIsNigh]

Well, this should help. We're cutting funding to the WHO.

They are freezing funds, not cutting it. Nothing wrong with what his administration did. An investigation should be done on this. WHO looks very corrupt right now and we're paying our tax dollars to fund them when we're $23 trillion in debt ourselves.

For those not preprogrammed, this is a purely political move along with his criticism of governors. When all the dust settles he will have his fall guys - the WHO for “deceiving” him into not taking this thing seriously, and then the governors who he will blame for not doing enough in the beginning and for being “too slow” to turn the economy back on at the end.

The US can and should take a close look at the WHO, but halting funding in the middle of a pandemic and giving the finger to global efforts is simply malicious.

Its silly, because the WHO will still function, we will just lose American voices in the process. The vacuum left by our departure will be filled by other nations. As usual, Trump chooses the wrong way to address this problem.

[DuckIII]

They are freezing funds, not cutting it. Nothing wrong with what his administration did. An investigation should be done on this. WHO looks very corrupt right now and we're paying our tax dollars to fund them when we're $23 trillion in debt ourselves.

For those not preprogrammed, this is a purely political move along with his criticism of governors. When all the dust settles he will have his fall guys - the WHO for “deceiving” him into not taking this thing seriously, and then the governors who he will blame for not doing enough in the beginning and for being “too slow” to turn the economy back on at the end.

The US can and should take a close look at the WHO, but halting funding in the middle of a pandemic and giving the finger to global efforts is simply malicious.

Its silly, because the WHO will still function, we will just lose American voices in the process. The vacuum left by our departure will be filled by other nations. As usual, Trump chooses the wrong way to address this problem.

He’s choosing the wrong thing for America. But he’s absolutely choosing the right thing for himself. Which is all he has done throughout this entire ordeal - create narratives for the campaign trail. I mean he’s not even being coy about it. He’s playing propaganda videos at press briefings now.

Donal Trump does not give 2 **** about the American people beyond how he can get them to re-elect him. His maneuverings throughout this are ham fisted and obvious to anyone giving any critical thought to what they see. But it’s going to work.

During the general election Trump will play the hero who “saved millions of lives” while blaming the WHO and China for the virus, and the governors for the economy. The latter being exactly why he immediately walked back his statement that he had all the power to order the governors so do what he wants. He didn’t retract it because it’s unconstitutional (which it is). He retracted it because he needs to say they have autonomy in order to be able to blame them this fall.

[Dresden]

How was the WHO supposed to be corrupt? They may have made mistakes in underestimating the severity of the virus, but so did many organizations, including our federal govt. They did have people on the ground, in Wuhan and other parts of China, as this was unfolding, following what was going on. This is so transparently NOT about corruption, it's just more extortion- do things my way and be nice to me, or I'll hold back resources. The sad part is, the people this is going to hurt the most are those in developing nations who don't have adequate health care systems to do what is needed to combat the pandemic. The WHO supplied nations like this with much needed help.

I do agree that China should be donating more to WHO than they currently are. There's no reason they should pay so much less than what the US contributes.

[DuckIII]

Dresden, the “corruption” angle is that there is a theory WHO is in the back pocket of China and helped them downplay the coronavirus at the early stages.