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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#261 » by dougthonus » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:17 am

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GoBlue72391 wrote:I messed around in The Capulator and I was able to sign Lonzo to a 4-year/$83M contract and re-signed Theis to a 3-year/$36M contract with Lauri taking the QO. I had to waive/stretch Thad and Aminu and traded Sato to the Celtics for their TPE.


Ignoring the fact that Lauri wouldn't take the QO for the moment. It looks like Boston just used their TPE on Josh Richardson though you could possibly fit Sato in somewhere for someone's cap room or TPE elsewhere.


Isn’t Richardson a FA? You can use a TPE to sign a FA?


He opted in and Dallas traded him to Boston, the note said Dallas freed up cap room by doing this which is why I assume it is the TPE.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#262 » by Evil_Headband » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:18 am

According to Spotrac, Dotson QO is $1,489,065.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#263 » by MGB8 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:21 am

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Ignoring the fact that Lauri wouldn't take the QO for the moment. It looks like Boston just used their TPE on Josh Richardson though you could possibly fit Sato in somewhere for someone's cap room or TPE elsewhere.


Isn’t Richardson a FA? You can use a TPE to sign a FA?


He opted in and Dallas traded him to Boston, the note said Dallas freed up cap room by doing this which is why I assume it is the TPE.


Richardson made a mistake opting in, IMO.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#264 » by GoBlue72391 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:21 am

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sco wrote:Probably not...watch him accept the QO an f*ck us again!

That would actually be good for us. Getting to keep Lauri for another year at a cheap price while still being able to re-sign Theis and also sign someone like Lonzo? How is that bad?


If you keep Theis and Lauri, you will be operating over the cap and have the MLE which isn't enough for Ball.

I used the Room MLE to keep Temple, I traded Sato to Boston for their TPE, and I used cap space to sign Lonzo. I don't know if I somehow "gamed" The Capulator and did something that isn't possible, but here's the link: http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=213599213661049757456d8364174524
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#265 » by Chi town » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:22 am

Feels like Sato and Thad trades are coming
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#266 » by bulls_troy » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:26 am

Chi town wrote:Feels like Sato and Thad trades are coming


At least Sato. I don't feel like Thad getting traded. But hey, who knows right!?
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#267 » by SfBull » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:54 am

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waffle wrote:probably the right move

Probably not...watch him accept the QO an f*ck us again!

That would actually be good for us. Getting to keep Lauri for another year at a cheap price while still being able to re-sign Theis and also sign someone like Lonzo? How is that bad?

It's bad when we keep a player who is clearly regressing and fixed to the bench.Bulls should have traded him in the deadline.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#268 » by WindyCityBorn » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:05 am

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sco wrote:Probably not...watch him accept the QO an f*ck us again!

That would actually be good for us. Getting to keep Lauri for another year at a cheap price while still being able to re-sign Theis and also sign someone like Lonzo? How is that bad?

It's bad when we keep a player who is clearly regressing and fixed to the bench.Bulls should have traded him in the deadline.


They couldn’t get anything for him. He is worth more than 2nd.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#269 » by WindyCityBorn » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:08 am

This must mean Sato and Thad are gone. We can’t sit around waiting to see what happens with Lauri. Gotta get an offer out to Ball immediately. Might stretch Aminu too although I don’t really like that idea.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#270 » by WindyCityBorn » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:09 am

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Chi town wrote:Feels like Sato and Thad trades are coming


At least Sato. I don't feel like Thad getting traded. But hey, who knows right!?


Theis>Thad. Vuc does what Thad did at higher level. We need Theis defense.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#271 » by weneeda2guard » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:12 am

The Dotson offer is weird

Maybe they want to include him in another deal and need his salary? Or maybe they keeping him as a safety net they strike out this off season on a pg.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#272 » by GoBlue72391 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:17 am

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sco wrote:Pretty sure we need Lauri's cap space to sign Ball.

I messed around in The Capulator and I was able to sign Lonzo to a 4-year/$83M contract and re-signed Theis to a 3-year/$36M contract with Lauri taking the QO. I had to waive/stretch Thad and Aminu and traded Sato to the Celtics for their TPE.


Even if Lauri did take the QO, the problem is his cap hold would be high until he signs it. He certainly isn't going to sign the QO before Lonzo agrees to a deal. He would only sign it as a last resort.

Ignoring the fact that Lauri wouldn't take the QO for the moment. It looks like Boston just used their TPE on Josh Richardson though you could possibly fit Sato in somewhere for someone's cap room or TPE elsewhere.

Ah, I see. For my scenario to work, Lauri would have to accept the QO before we sign Lonzo, which as you said is highly unlikely to happen. Isn't there some obscure loophole where we could renounce Lauri, only to, I guess, de-nounce him later and offer him the QO? I swear someone posted that here the other day.

I found a way for my scenario to still happen, but its dependent upon trading all three of Thad, Sato, and Aminu for cap space, Lonzo willing to sign a 4-year/$69M contract, and Lauri then accepting the QO, all of which is unlikely. This is pipe dream level though, as in this situation we're able to sign Lonzo, keep Theis, Lauri, and Temple, and add Doug McDermott: http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=5270413276104a49458c5a439306941
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#273 » by LateNight » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:24 am

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Why Dotson?


Hm... other point guards all getting traded/cut?
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#274 » by GoBlue72391 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:26 am

weneeda2guard wrote:The Dotson offer is weird

Maybe they want to include him in another deal and need his salary? Or maybe they keeping him as a safety net they strike out this off season on a pg.

I assume they're bringing him back on another two-way contract and the QO is just a formality. The same thing happened to Mokoka: we extended him a QO after his first season, only to bring him back on another two-way.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#275 » by weneeda2guard » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:02 am

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weneeda2guard wrote:The Dotson offer is weird

Maybe they want to include him in another deal and need his salary? Or maybe they keeping him as a safety net they strike out this off season on a pg.

I assume they're bringing him back on another two-way contract and the QO is just a formality. The same thing happened to Mokoka: we extended him a QO after his first season, only to bring him back on another two-way.

Yea but they gave mokoka a look
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#276 » by kodo » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:25 am

GoBlue72391 wrote:Ah, I see. For my scenario to work, Lauri would have to accept the QO before we sign Lonzo, which as you said is highly unlikely to happen. Isn't there some obscure loophole where we could renounce Lauri, only to, I guess, de-nounce him later and offer him the QO? I swear someone posted that here the other day.


August 1st is the deadline for QOs. If there's any shenanigans, it has to be done in the next 24 hours basically.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#277 » by HomoSapien » Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:40 am

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Why Dotson?


Might mean we're planning on letting Arci go. I'm guessing Dotson will be cheaper.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#278 » by GoBlue72391 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:58 am

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Why Dotson?


Might mean we're planning on letting Arci go. I'm guessing Dotson will be cheaper.

I think it's all but a given that we'll decline Archi's $3M team option, but I could see us re-signing him for the vet minimum for depth and morale purposes.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#279 » by HomoSapien » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:38 am

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Why Dotson?


Might mean we're planning on letting Arci go. I'm guessing Dotson will be cheaper.

I think it's all but a given that we'll decline Archi's $3M team option, but I could see us re-signing him for the vet minimum for depth and morale purposes.


To me, this suggests that we're likely picking Dotson over Arch. There's no point in having both of them (unless Arch is replacing Sato).
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#280 » by bulls_troy » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:49 am

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Chi town wrote:Feels like Sato and Thad trades are coming


At least Sato. I don't feel like Thad getting traded. But hey, who knows right!?


Theis>Thad. Vuc does what Thad did at higher level. We need Theis defense.


Completely agree. I just don't see Thad leaving. But I want Theis to stay. If that means Thad goes, so be it
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