O'Connor: Bulls interested in Gobert and Mitchell Robinson

[Chi town]

I think if you could get Gobert without giving up PWill, you have to do it, even if it means giving up Ayo or Caruso. Having Gobert shore up all major weaknesses on defense while giving PWill a bigger role on offense (or at least a bigger role than just standing in the corner and shooting 3s), you have to take that chance.

Lonzo/Lavine/DDR/PWill/Gobert and one of Ayo/Caruso off the bench sounds interesting enough for me to take that chance.

That's a big thing that is not being talked about... PW becomes our 3rd option replacing Vuc which is very important.

Coby also becomes a more playable 3pt shooter with Gobert protecting the rim.

[madvillian]

I feel like some people are rooting for change just to have change and have talked themselves into Rudy for Vuc + Pat. That feels like a lateral move at best asset wise.

I also think that the Jazz will try and overplay their hand so it's best to wait them out and see what offers actually come in for Chicago to match or beat.

[CROBulls]

I feel like some people are rooting for change just to have change and have talked themselves into Rudy for Vuc + Pat. That feels like a lateral move at best asset wise.

I also think that the Jazz will try and overplay their hand so it's best to wait them out and see what offers actually come in for Chicago to match or beat.

All I will say Vuc is not solution. Me, you, AKME knows that. Looking to move him is right choice. It doesnt have anything to with change just for sake of change.

[TheSuzerain]

I feel like some people are rooting for change just to have change and have talked themselves into Rudy for Vuc + Pat. That feels like a lateral move at best asset wise.

I also think that the Jazz will try and overplay their hand so it's best to wait them out and see what offers actually come in for Chicago to match or beat.

Were you in a coma last season? Vuc was a liability on both ends and did nothing proficiently other than rebound.

PWill missed basically the whole year.

So we give up two players who essentially gave us zilch last season and in their Bulls careers to date fit Rudy Gobert who is universally considered the 3rd best center in the NBA after the top 2 MVP candidates. And I'm to believe this is a lateral move?

[Chi town]

I feel like some people are rooting for change just to have change and have talked themselves into Rudy for Vuc + Pat. That feels like a lateral move at best asset wise.

I also think that the Jazz will try and overplay their hand so it's best to wait them out and see what offers actually come in for Chicago to match or beat.

Nope.

I only trade for Gobert if Vuc and expiring filler is included. That contract is a liability and Gobert only has useful expirings in this NBA.

[chitownsports4ever]

I feel like some people are rooting for change just to have change and have talked themselves into Rudy for Vuc + Pat. That feels like a lateral move at best asset wise.

I also think that the Jazz will try and overplay their hand so it's best to wait them out and see what offers actually come in for Chicago to match or beat.

Were you in a coma last season? Vuc was a liability on both ends and did nothing proficiently other than rebound.

PWill missed basically the whole year.

So we give up two players who essentially gave us zilch last season and in their Bulls careers to date fit Rudy Gobert who is universally considered the 3rd best center in the NBA after the top 2 MVP candidates. And I'm to believe this is a lateral move?

No he wasn't just because you post it does not make it true

[FriedRise]

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[Rose2Boozer]

https://allchgo.com/2022/06/08/why-i-would-love-if-the-bulls-traded-patrick-williams-for-rudy-gobert/

Per Will Gottlieb

In summary he warns about Pat's potential and the likelyhood on it actually panning out with him. Is Williams realistic upside top 25 in the league? Rarely do prospects reach their peak outcome and even if Pat does, there's no guarantee it's anything close to what Gobert is presently doing. None of this is to say Williams is a bad player and he should definitely be traded but holding onto upside for the sake of holding on to upside is a dangerous game. If they decide they would leverage him to trade for a star player, I'm not sure one better than Gobert will become available.

It would be gut wrenching to see Williams become a star on another team, but that's the cost of trading for star players.

I'd cash in Patrick Williams before the league realizes he's Keita Bates-Diop. If the Bulls draft Tari Eason, there's really no reason to hold onto Williams' potential.

[Jcool0]

I feel like some people are rooting for change just to have change and have talked themselves into Rudy for Vuc + Pat. That feels like a lateral move at best asset wise.

I also think that the Jazz will try and overplay their hand so it's best to wait them out and see what offers actually come in for Chicago to match or beat.

Gobert is not a top 5 player in he NBA. Waiting for one of those is a Gar/Pax solution. Gobert makes the Bulls a much better team. that is the goal.

[_txchilibowl_]

Bring in Gobert and Thybulle and lock this ***** up....

[DuckIII]

I feel like some people are rooting for change just to have change and have talked themselves into Rudy for Vuc + Pat. That feels like a lateral move at best asset wise.

I also think that the Jazz will try and overplay their hand so it's best to wait them out and see what offers actually come in for Chicago to match or beat.

Were you in a coma last season? Vuc was a liability on both ends and did nothing proficiently other than rebound.

PWill missed basically the whole year.

So we give up two players who essentially gave us zilch last season and in their Bulls careers to date fit Rudy Gobert who is universally considered the 3rd best center in the NBA after the top 2 MVP candidates. And I'm to believe this is a lateral move?

No he wasn't just because you post it does not make it true

Everyone but you believes it’s true. But hey, that’s how it was with Galileo too, and he showed them!

[DuckIII]

Bring in Gobert and Thybulle and lock this ***** up....

That would be wild. I don’t know how well it would work at the end of the day, but it would be something to see.

[Repeat 3-peat]

Jazz fans on reddit are saying that a package for Rudy starts with Lonzo and PW

[chitownsports4ever]

Were you in a coma last season? Vuc was a liability on both ends and did nothing proficiently other than rebound.

PWill missed basically the whole year.

So we give up two players who essentially gave us zilch last season and in their Bulls careers to date fit Rudy Gobert who is universally considered the 3rd best center in the NBA after the top 2 MVP candidates. And I'm to believe this is a lateral move?

No he wasn't just because you post it does not make it true

Everyone but you believes it’s true. But hey, that’s how it was with Galileo too, and he showed them!

Glad to know you have become the ambassador to everyone its its a really good thing to know. The next time I want to know what everyone thinks Ill just say hey find that guy Duck on the internet he is their representative .

[TheSuzerain]

Bring in Gobert and Thybulle and lock this ***** up....

Nah. Thybulle is not the follow up move.

Plus we already have Caruso and maybe even Lonzo basically filling that role (and doing it better than Thybulle imo).

[dice]

Jazz fans on reddit are saying that a package for Rudy starts with Lonzo and PW

not sure what's so funny about that. he's much better than lonzo and PW hasn't proven anything. frankly, lonzo + PW ain't gonna get it done. not sure lavine straight up in a sign and trade would either. i mentioned that on the jazz board and it didn't get much of a reception

[dice]

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i find that hard to believe given that artie has committed strongly to 3 players who are pretty much the polar opposite in lavine, derozan and vuc

[dice]

I feel like some people are rooting for change just to have change and have talked themselves into Rudy for Vuc + Pat. That feels like a lateral move at best asset wise.

I also think that the Jazz will try and overplay their hand so it's best to wait them out and see what offers actually come in for Chicago to match or beat.

Nope.

I only trade for Gobert if Vuc and expiring filler is included. That contract is a liability and Gobert only has useful expirings in this NBA.

it's absolutely not a liability unless he gets injured. you obviously have no idea how the jazz crumble when he is off the floor

[Bullflip]

Jazz fans on reddit are saying that a package for Rudy starts with Lonzo and PW

Nothing funny about that. Lonzo can’t stay healthy and PW does not have the aggressiveness to be a star.

[Repeat 3-peat]

Jazz fans on reddit are saying that a package for Rudy starts with Lonzo and PW

not sure what's so funny about that. he's much better than lonzo and PW hasn't proven anything. frankly, lonzo + PW ain't gonna get it done. not sure lavine straight up in a sign and trade would either. i mentioned that on the jazz board and it didn't get much of a reception

Basically this discussion of Gobert to Chicago is irrelevant. Bulls aren't moving their starting point guard and their best young prospect.