Shams: Bulls extend Vuc (3/60)

[DuckIII]

So earlier in the thread bad knees posted that because Vuc is extended he’s tradable right away (thanks bad knees!).

That changes my view of things for now considerably. Now I’m back in wait and see mode. Surprise me AK.

[Stratmaster]

You stopped arguing that WCJ is better and are now arguing that Vuc is "pedestrian". Your doing a lot of dancing on this subject.

No, I think WCJ is better than Vuc. He's also pedestrian. I didn't say WCJ was a rising star. I think he's a low rung starter / 3rd big. I think Vuc is similar though lesser in the same tier.

And you say WCJ is a "fringe starter". But one of the top double double guys in the league is "sub-MLE". Don't let your credibility die on this hill.

Double double machine is just a junk description that doesn't provide any meaningful value as to how he helps your team win, which he doesn't. Andre Drummond would be a double double machine if you let him play as many minutes as Vuc.

Double double machine would be a junk stat if those double-doubles were 10 points and 11 rebounds. Which is likely where drummond would fall. And, of course, Drummonds per minute stats would fall off a cliff if he had to play the 33 minutes Vuc plays. Respectfully, that is just a ridiculous comparison, and I think you know that. Vuc is 18/10 as the 3rd option. So 18 PPG is "junk"? Pull the other one.

[dougthonus]

So earlier in the thread bad knees posted that because Vuc is extended he’s tradable right away (thanks bad knees!).

That changes my view of things for now considerably. Now I’m back in wait and see mode. Surprise me AK.

Not that I think it would matter, but turns out this is not true. This is only true if the extension was for 2 years or less:

https://t.co/j4I3TVIqRu

[bad knees]

So earlier in the thread bad knees posted that because Vuc is extended he’s tradable right away (thanks bad knees!).

That changes my view of things for now considerably. Now I’m back in wait and see mode. Surprise me AK.

Not that I think it would matter, but turns out this is not true. This is only true if the extension was for 2 years or less:

https://t.co/j4I3TVIqRu

Well, it wasn’t my opinion - it was me quoting John Hollinger specifically talking about the Vuc situation. Pincus’s comments are a little vague and were not made specifically in the Vuc context. So I would go with Hollinger. Not that it’s going to matter anyway. I would put the chances of the Bulls trading Vuc this summer, even if possible, at zero percent.

[jnrjr79]

I read somewhere that you can't apply for the DPE until 6/30 or 7/1, so they haven't (and can't have) applied for it yet. There was a report maybe a week ago that the Bulls were having an internal meeting about whether to apply for it, which makes no sense to me. Just apply for it! If ownership says no to the tax, you don't have to use it, but there's no reason not to have it available just in case.

Applying for it means you can't apply for medical retirement. That's probably much more valuable, because if you apply for medical retirement next year, it will be AFTER all the FAs have signed, if you hold and apply for medical retirement at the 2 year anniversary date of his injury, as an example, you can clean him off the books before the trade deadline and before next year's FA and have a lot more optionality in both time periods.

The thing is, we already know whether we can use the DPE internally, and hint, the answer is no. We don't have to guess whether ownership will go into the tax, tehy'll outright tell you.

Applying for it means you can't apply for medical retirement *this season.* Didn't AK say at the recent press conference that the Bulls would not be pursuing the medical retirement this season?

I'm with you that if they could do it, even if it were toward the end of the season, but still during this league year, that would be likely more valuable than using the DPE on a guy for this upcoming season, in order to have him off the books for free agency in 2024. I just thought they'd already rejected that.

[dougthonus]

So earlier in the thread bad knees posted that because Vuc is extended he’s tradable right away (thanks bad knees!).

That changes my view of things for now considerably. Now I’m back in wait and see mode. Surprise me AK.

Not that I think it would matter, but turns out this is not true. This is only true if the extension was for 2 years or less:

https://t.co/j4I3TVIqRu

Well, it wasn’t my opinion - it was me quoting John Hollinger specifically talking about the Vuc situation. Pincus’s comments are a little vague and were not made specifically in the Vuc context. So I would go with Hollinger. Not that it’s going to matter anyway. I would put the chances of the Bulls trading Vuc this summer, even if possible, at zero percent.

It definitely seems murky.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q95

Similar to a sign-and-trade arrangement (see question number 92), a team may sign an eligible player to an extension (see question number 58) and immediately trade him to another team. Such an "extend-and-trade" is limited to three seasons, which include any seasons remaining on the player's current contract1. The salary in the first season of the extension can have a 5% raise over the last season of the existing contract, and subsequent raises are limited to 5% of the salary in the first season of the extension. The 5% limit also applies to both likely and unlikely bonuses.

A player cannot be traded in an extend-and-trade after the season (for example, on draft day) in the last season of his contract, or in any season that might be the last season due to an option or ETO.

Since an extend-and-trade has greater limits than a regular extension (three seasons2 and 5% raises vs. four seasons2 and 8% raises) the rules restrict teams from extending and trading the player in separate transactions in order to circumvent these limits. If a team extends a player beyond the limits of an extend-and-trade (for example, if they sign a player to a four-year extension), they can't trade the player for six months. Conversely, a team cannot extend a player it receives in trade for six months, if the extension exceeds the limits of an extend-and-trade3.

Seems like timing of his extension would prevent this.

Also looks like at the time of extension, he's technically got 3 seasons + current season, so it's theoretically 4 at the time of extension.

My reading of that is we probably can't trade him.

[dougthonus]

Applying for it means you can't apply for medical retirement *this season.* Didn't AK say at the recent press conference that the Bulls would not be pursuing the medical retirement this season?

He said he would not waive and stretch this season.

Looking up stuff on medical retirement is really difficult to find, but it sounds like you can apply once per year any time after 1 year from the initial injury. Bulls are already past that point, so they can apply (as far as I can tell) at any point in this league year and again next year.

I'm with you that if they could do it, even if it were toward the end of the season, but still during this league year, that would be likely more valuable than using the DPE on a guy for this upcoming season, in order to have him off the books for free agency in 2024. I just thought they'd already rejected that.

I don't think they explicitly rejected it or addressed it specifically enough to know for sure. Either way, it'd be easy to say 8 months from now that something changed.

[jnrjr79]

So earlier in the thread bad knees posted that because Vuc is extended he’s tradable right away (thanks bad knees!).

That changes my view of things for now considerably. Now I’m back in wait and see mode. Surprise me AK.

Not that I think it would matter, but turns out this is not true. This is only true if the extension was for 2 years or less:

https://t.co/j4I3TVIqRu

Well, it wasn’t my opinion - it was me quoting John Hollinger specifically talking about the Vuc situation. Pincus’s comments are a little vague and were not made specifically in the Vuc context. So I would go with Hollinger. Not that it’s going to matter anyway. I would put the chances of the Bulls trading Vuc this summer, even if possible, at zero percent.

First, the article Doug links to does not contain any content, as best I can tell, that suggests that a player who extends with his current team and does not agree to a raise triggers any trade limitations. Doug, did you see something in the article to the contrary?

Second, that article was written re: the old CBA and we have a new CBA now, so it's worth exploring what the new rule may be. Always go to the source material!

New CBA:

https://imgix.cosmicjs.com/25da5eb0-15eb-11ee-b5b3-fbd321202bdf-Final-2023-NBA-Collective-Bargaining-Agreement-6-28-23.pdf

On page 262 of the .pdf, which is in the section outlining trade rules, I see this:

Notwithstanding the rule set forth in Section (d)(ii) above, any player who signs a Standard NBA Contract with his prior Team meeting the following criteria may not be traded before the later of (x) three (3) months following the date on which such Contract was signed or (y) the January 15 of the Salary Cap Year in which such Contract was signed: the Team Salary of the player’s Team is above the Salary Cap immediately following the Contract signing and the player is a Qualifying Veteran Free Agent or Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent who, in accordance with Section 6(b)(1) or (3) above, enters into a new Player Contract with his prior Team that provides for a Salary for the first Season of such new Contract greater than one hundred twenty percent (120%) of the Salary for the last Season of the player’s immediately prior Contract.

This does not seem to apply, because Vooch extended before his free agency (and therefore wasn't a Qualifying Veteran Free Agent) and because he did not get a 20% raise.

There is also this:

In the event a player enters into (A) an Extension pursuant to Section 7(a) above (other than a Designated Veteran Player Extension governed by Section (f)(ii) below) that covers five (5) Seasons (or, for Extensions entered into prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year, four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the player’s Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the amounts that, at the time such Extension was entered into, were permissible in Extensions entered into in connection with an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to Section 8(e)(2) above, or (B) a Renegotiation pursuant to Section 7(c) above, then the player may not be traded before six (6) months following the date on which such Extension or Renegotiation was signed.

This does not seem to apply b/c Vooch's extension is 3 years and was not entered into with salary increases or decreases the would have been impermissible in a sign & trade.

It looks to me like he's trade eligible now, but the CBA is dense and if anyone sees anything different, that would be interesting to look at.

[jnrjr79]

Applying for it means you can't apply for medical retirement *this season.* Didn't AK say at the recent press conference that the Bulls would not be pursuing the medical retirement this season?

He said he would not waive and stretch this season.

Looking up stuff on medical retirement is really difficult to find, but it sounds like you can apply once per year any time after 1 year from the initial injury. Bulls are already past that point, so they can apply (as far as I can tell) at any point in this league year and again next year.

I'm with you that if they could do it, even if it were toward the end of the season, but still during this league year, that would be likely more valuable than using the DPE on a guy for this upcoming season, in order to have him off the books for free agency in 2024. I just thought they'd already rejected that.

I don't think they explicitly rejected it or addressed it specifically enough to know for sure. Either way, it'd be easy to say 8 months from now that something changed.

Under the new CBA (linked to above), page 232 is where the DPE stuff is set forth. The team has a window of 7/1 to 1/15 to apply for it and must use it by March 10. If unused, it expires.

Medical retirement (untitled in the CBA but in a subsection called "Long-Term Injuries beginning on page 222). You're right that if a team applies for a DPE, then they can't pursue medical retirement for the remainder of the league year:

if a Team makes a request for an Exception to replace a Disabled Player pursuant to Section 6(c) below for a Salary Cap Year, then, whether such application is granted or denied, the Team will be precluded from applying to have that player’s Salary excluded from its Team Salary pursuant to this Section 4(h) for the same Salary Cap Year.

It's a little unclear to me whether a team could get a DPE while later in the league year asking that the salary come off the books only beginning in the next league year (but try to get the ball rolling on the medical exam/determination before 7/1), but my guess is no.

[dougthonus]

Not that I think it would matter, but turns out this is not true. This is only true if the extension was for 2 years or less:

https://t.co/j4I3TVIqRu

Well, it wasn’t my opinion - it was me quoting John Hollinger specifically talking about the Vuc situation. Pincus’s comments are a little vague and were not made specifically in the Vuc context. So I would go with Hollinger. Not that it’s going to matter anyway. I would put the chances of the Bulls trading Vuc this summer, even if possible, at zero percent.

First, the article Doug links to does not contain any content, as best I can tell, that suggests that a player who extends with his current team and does not agree to a raise triggers any trade limitations. Doug, did you see something in the article to the contrary?

Second, that article was written re: the old CBA and we have a new CBA now, so it's worth exploring what the new rule may be. Always go to the source material!

New CBA:

https://imgix.cosmicjs.com/25da5eb0-15eb-11ee-b5b3-fbd321202bdf-Final-2023-NBA-Collective-Bargaining-Agreement-6-28-23.pdf

On page 262 of the .pdf, which is in the section outlining trade rules, I see this:

Notwithstanding the rule set forth in Section (d)(ii) above, any player who signs a Standard NBA Contract with his prior Team meeting the following criteria may not be traded before the later of (x) three (3) months following the date on which such Contract was signed or (y) the January 15 of the Salary Cap Year in which such Contract was signed: the Team Salary of the player’s Team is above the Salary Cap immediately following the Contract signing and the player is a Qualifying Veteran Free Agent or Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent who, in accordance with Section 6(b)(1) or (3) above, enters into a new Player Contract with his prior Team that provides for a Salary for the first Season of such new Contract greater than one hundred twenty percent (120%) of the Salary for the last Season of the player’s immediately prior Contract.

This does not seem to apply, because Vooch extended before his free agency (and therefore wasn't a Qualifying Veteran Free Agent) and because he did not get a 20% raise.

There is also this:

In the event a player enters into (A) an Extension pursuant to Section 7(a) above (other than a Designated Veteran Player Extension governed by Section (f)(ii) below) that covers five (5) Seasons (or, for Extensions entered into prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year, four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the player’s Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the amounts that, at the time such Extension was entered into, were permissible in Extensions entered into in connection with an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to Section 8(e)(2) above, or (B) a Renegotiation pursuant to Section 7(c) above, then the player may not be traded before six (6) months following the date on which such Extension or Renegotiation was signed.

This does not seem to apply b/c Vooch's extension is 3 years and was not entered into with salary increases or decreases the would have been impermissible in a sign & trade.

It looks to me like he's trade eligible now, but the CBA is dense and if anyone sees anything different, that would be interesting to look at.

Doing some work there!

I would agree with your interpretation, but I would add that this extension was done under the 22/23 calendar year, so I think the past CBA is applicable and not the new CBA which takes place starting the 23/24 calendar year.

The old CBA has this language which is nearly identical, so I still think you are correct.

In the event a player enters into an Extension pursuant to
Section 7(a) above (other than a Designated Veteran Player
Extension governed by Section (f)(ii) below) that covers
four (4) or more Seasons and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases in the player’s Salary
and Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the amounts permissible
in connection with Extensions entered in connection with
an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to Section
8(e)(2) above, the player may not be traded before six (6)
months following the date on which such Extension was
signed. If a team acquires a player in a trade, then, for a
period of six (6) months following the date of the trade, the
team may not enter into an Extension with the player that
provides for four (4) or more Seasons and/or provides for
Salary and Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases in the
player’s Salary and/or Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts permissible in connection with Extensions
230 Article VII
entered in connection with an agreement to trade the
Contract pursuant to Section 8(e)(2) above

[jnrjr79]

Well, it wasn’t my opinion - it was me quoting John Hollinger specifically talking about the Vuc situation. Pincus’s comments are a little vague and were not made specifically in the Vuc context. So I would go with Hollinger. Not that it’s going to matter anyway. I would put the chances of the Bulls trading Vuc this summer, even if possible, at zero percent.

First, the article Doug links to does not contain any content, as best I can tell, that suggests that a player who extends with his current team and does not agree to a raise triggers any trade limitations. Doug, did you see something in the article to the contrary?

Second, that article was written re: the old CBA and we have a new CBA now, so it's worth exploring what the new rule may be. Always go to the source material!

New CBA:

https://imgix.cosmicjs.com/25da5eb0-15eb-11ee-b5b3-fbd321202bdf-Final-2023-NBA-Collective-Bargaining-Agreement-6-28-23.pdf

On page 262 of the .pdf, which is in the section outlining trade rules, I see this:

Notwithstanding the rule set forth in Section (d)(ii) above, any player who signs a Standard NBA Contract with his prior Team meeting the following criteria may not be traded before the later of (x) three (3) months following the date on which such Contract was signed or (y) the January 15 of the Salary Cap Year in which such Contract was signed: the Team Salary of the player’s Team is above the Salary Cap immediately following the Contract signing and the player is a Qualifying Veteran Free Agent or Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent who, in accordance with Section 6(b)(1) or (3) above, enters into a new Player Contract with his prior Team that provides for a Salary for the first Season of such new Contract greater than one hundred twenty percent (120%) of the Salary for the last Season of the player’s immediately prior Contract.

This does not seem to apply, because Vooch extended before his free agency (and therefore wasn't a Qualifying Veteran Free Agent) and because he did not get a 20% raise.

There is also this:

In the event a player enters into (A) an Extension pursuant to Section 7(a) above (other than a Designated Veteran Player Extension governed by Section (f)(ii) below) that covers five (5) Seasons (or, for Extensions entered into prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year, four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the player’s Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the amounts that, at the time such Extension was entered into, were permissible in Extensions entered into in connection with an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to Section 8(e)(2) above, or (B) a Renegotiation pursuant to Section 7(c) above, then the player may not be traded before six (6) months following the date on which such Extension or Renegotiation was signed.

This does not seem to apply b/c Vooch's extension is 3 years and was not entered into with salary increases or decreases the would have been impermissible in a sign & trade.

It looks to me like he's trade eligible now, but the CBA is dense and if anyone sees anything different, that would be interesting to look at.

Doing some work there!

I would agree with your interpretation, but I would add that this extension was done under the 22/23 calendar year, so I think the past CBA is applicable and not the new CBA which takes place starting the 23/24 calendar year.

The old CBA has this language which is nearly identical, so I still think you are correct.

In the event a player enters into an Extension pursuant to
Section 7(a) above (other than a Designated Veteran Player
Extension governed by Section (f)(ii) below) that covers
four (4) or more Seasons and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases in the player’s Salary
and Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the amounts permissible
in connection with Extensions entered in connection with
an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to Section
8(e)(2) above, the player may not be traded before six (6)
months following the date on which such Extension was
signed. If a team acquires a player in a trade, then, for a
period of six (6) months following the date of the trade, the
team may not enter into an Extension with the player that
provides for four (4) or more Seasons and/or provides for
Salary and Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases in the
player’s Salary and/or Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts permissible in connection with Extensions
230 Article VII
entered in connection with an agreement to trade the
Contract pursuant to Section 8(e)(2) above

It's a distinction without a difference because the language is functionally the same, but the new CBA would govern the trade-ability of Vooch's contract once the new league year begins. I guess today if Vooch were traded, it'd be under the old one.

[Chi town]

So earlier in the thread bad knees posted that because Vuc is extended he’s tradable right away (thanks bad knees!).

That changes my view of things for now considerably. Now I’m back in wait and see mode. Surprise me AK.

Cowley…

A source said that Vucevic had several conversations with coach Billy Donovan about how he was used in the offense; that came up in the negotiations,” Cowley wrote. “Vucevic would like to see more touches, allowing him to be a playmaker or attack in the paint, especially when he feels he has a mismatch.”

[Dan Z]

The contract extension is fine in a vacuum (better if the third year is a TO).

However, what does this mean for DeMar DeRoZan? Will he get an extension soon? If so, what does that mean for the future of the team?

Are they going to spend the next few years (3?) with DDR, Vuc and LaVine as the main pieces? Right now the Bulls are a team that just finished in 10th place with those three leading the way, along with young players who were underwhelming (PW, Ayo and Coby...Coby at least showed improvement). They also have an injured player taking up cap space (Lonzo) and limited resources to upgrade the PG spot.

The longer they run with DDR, Vuc and LaVine the lower their value is IMO.

[jnrjr79]

So earlier in the thread bad knees posted that because Vuc is extended he’s tradable right away (thanks bad knees!).

That changes my view of things for now considerably. Now I’m back in wait and see mode. Surprise me AK.

Cowley…

A source said that Vucevic had several conversations with coach Billy Donovan about how he was used in the offense; that came up in the negotiations,” Cowley wrote. “Vucevic would like to see more touches, allowing him to be a playmaker or attack in the paint, especially when he feels he has a mismatch.”

If Vooch was promised a bigger role, I don't see how you achieve that without moving one of Zach or DeMar. Which is good, because I would like to do that!

[Guru]

There is so little logic in these threads. Of course you re-sign him and of course it's a great deal.

1. Vuc is solid. 8th in rebounds last year. Solid scoring numbers. Solid 3%.
2. If you want a rebuild you want to rebuild with as many assets as possible. There isn't any reason at all to rebuild now. Go in season and find out what you have. If its bad sell off your parts. If its good then stay the course.
3. You don't believe its going to be good? The Bulls went 13-9 after signing Patrick Beverly. That's ignoring the fact that he had no offseason at all with the team and had to join them midplayoff hunt. That's 59% of wins. Thats 48 wins. Thats the 5th seed.
4. This is supposed to be fun and we have a very easy team to root for a very good GM and a very bright future no matter the direction we go. Bulls fans just seem to hate everything. They would rather be the Pistons than the Knicks. Zero meaningful games for three seasons or a team that with a little luck could win the Eastern Conference.

The idea that because the Bulls went 13-9 over one stretch you can discount the rest of the season and they are a 48 win team is the biggest piece of faulty logic in the thread.

Look at their record with Beverly and Ball and their record without. That's all you need to know.

[DuckIII]

So earlier in the thread bad knees posted that because Vuc is extended he’s tradable right away (thanks bad knees!).

That changes my view of things for now considerably. Now I’m back in wait and see mode. Surprise me AK.

Not that I think it would matter, but turns out this is not true. This is only true if the extension was for 2 years or less:

https://t.co/j4I3TVIqRu

Damnit Doug! I was feeling a little less crappy about our FO for a minute there.

[DuckIII]

Not that I think it would matter, but turns out this is not true. This is only true if the extension was for 2 years or less:

https://t.co/j4I3TVIqRu

Well, it wasn’t my opinion - it was me quoting John Hollinger specifically talking about the Vuc situation. Pincus’s comments are a little vague and were not made specifically in the Vuc context. So I would go with Hollinger. Not that it’s going to matter anyway. I would put the chances of the Bulls trading Vuc this summer, even if possible, at zero percent.

First, the article Doug links to does not contain any content, as best I can tell, that suggests that a player who extends with his current team and does not agree to a raise triggers any trade limitations. Doug, did you see something in the article to the contrary?

Second, that article was written re: the old CBA and we have a new CBA now, so it's worth exploring what the new rule may be. Always go to the source material!

New CBA:

https://imgix.cosmicjs.com/25da5eb0-15eb-11ee-b5b3-fbd321202bdf-Final-2023-NBA-Collective-Bargaining-Agreement-6-28-23.pdf

On page 262 of the .pdf, which is in the section outlining trade rules, I see this:

Notwithstanding the rule set forth in Section (d)(ii) above, any player who signs a Standard NBA Contract with his prior Team meeting the following criteria may not be traded before the later of (x) three (3) months following the date on which such Contract was signed or (y) the January 15 of the Salary Cap Year in which such Contract was signed: the Team Salary of the player’s Team is above the Salary Cap immediately following the Contract signing and the player is a Qualifying Veteran Free Agent or Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent who, in accordance with Section 6(b)(1) or (3) above, enters into a new Player Contract with his prior Team that provides for a Salary for the first Season of such new Contract greater than one hundred twenty percent (120%) of the Salary for the last Season of the player’s immediately prior Contract.

This does not seem to apply, because Vooch extended before his free agency (and therefore wasn't a Qualifying Veteran Free Agent) and because he did not get a 20% raise.

There is also this:

In the event a player enters into (A) an Extension pursuant to Section 7(a) above (other than a Designated Veteran Player Extension governed by Section (f)(ii) below) that covers five (5) Seasons (or, for Extensions entered into prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year, four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the player’s Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the amounts that, at the time such Extension was entered into, were permissible in Extensions entered into in connection with an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to Section 8(e)(2) above, or (B) a Renegotiation pursuant to Section 7(c) above, then the player may not be traded before six (6) months following the date on which such Extension or Renegotiation was signed.

This does not seem to apply b/c Vooch's extension is 3 years and was not entered into with salary increases or decreases the would have been impermissible in a sign & trade.

It looks to me like he's trade eligible now, but the CBA is dense and if anyone sees anything different, that would be interesting to look at.

Ah, now I’m relieved again and holding out hope that AK is trying to stay flexible while not losing an asset. I doubt it. But at least I can hope it.

[bad knees]

Bulls’ extension with Vuc is fully guaranteed, which I expected. Spotrac says his salary next year is $18.5 M, so we have some more room to sign other guys than if it were 20/20/20.

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[Chi town]

Bulls’ extension with Vuc is fully guaranteed, which I expected. Spotrac says his salary next year is $18.5 M, so we have some more room to sign other guys than if it were 20/20/20.

Read on Twitter

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After reading the terms…


HOW IS AK THIS NAD AT HIS JOB?!?!?


We really are screwed.
Only hope is the Pre injury Lonzo team he built

[DropStep]

It's fine.

Harrison Barnes got 3x54. Played all 82 games, one of only three to do it - Vuc is another.

.............Age......Deal...........G......Min.......PTS.......TRB....AST....FG%....FG3%....FT%....eFG%...PER.....WS....Def Rtg
H Barnes...31.......3 for 54.......82.....32.5......15.0........4.5....1.6....47.3....37.4....84.7....55.6....14.1....6.5....119.2
Vucevic.....32.......3 for 60.......82.....33.5......17.6......11.0....3.2....52.0....34.9....83.5....57.3....19.1....8.3....109.7

Defensive ratings per StatMuse, lower is better. Which is confusing, because it has Vuc ninth in the league. It heavily favors centers. It also shows Zach at 50th in the league, so who knows.