Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity

[D_GoLow]

Does that somehow excuse Deng, Noah, and Boozer for sucking too?

So how's our team doing this year?

Wait, am I supposed to care about the regular season now, when we're supposed to be contending for a championship? Does our regular season record give us some sort of handicap when we face teams in the playoffs? Do we get 10 extra points in each game? Or an extra man on the floor? We could have used that last year when we had the best record in the league and went out in the first round of the playoffs against a really ****y team.

Well then I suggest you root for Miami

[WinCity]

I'll give anyone a legit move that's available that the Bulls didn't do (since summer 2011) Just one move that the Bulls passed on or didn't do that would have added more top tier talent to the roster. Before anyone says Asik, Korver, etc; those are exactly the players that Reggie Rose is saying the Bulls don't need more of.

This a false way of looking at things.

Losing Asik for nothing and replacing him with Nazr Mohammed is probably something that ticks Reggie (and Rose) off.

Losing Korver for nothing (if Bulls don't use the TPE, which is a more than realistic expectation) is probably something that ticks Reggie off.

Constantly hearing (and Reggie probably even knows more about this than we do) about how much the Bulls want to avoid the tax is probably something that ticks Reggie off.

Not making trades that would upgrade the team (not saying a superstar, per se) due to financial considerations likely pisses Reggie off. For example, sources said that the Bulls didn't want to trade for Reddick due to luxury tax implications next year. Not only does that mean we are out of the market for a player like Reddick, but that pretty damn strongly implies the Bulls won't be upgrading next year if that means more luxury tax. That probably pisses Reggie off.

It's basically a running joke throughout the entire league that the Bulls are run like a mid-market franchise. Reggie finally comes out and says it and people sh*t their diapers.

Exactly. We should all be grateful to Reggie for saying this and taking a PR hit for Derrick. Its about time some pressure was put on JR to spend and do more with his highly profitable franchise. Doug has covered numerous times just how well the Bulls do financially and just how unwilling they are to spend on par with those profits. If this leads to a more aggressive Bulls FO I am very happy about it.

[DanTown8587]

I'll give anyone a legit move that's available that the Bulls didn't do (since summer 2011) Just one move that the Bulls passed on or didn't do that would have added more top tier talent to the roster. Before anyone says Asik, Korver, etc; those are exactly the players that Reggie Rose is saying the Bulls don't need more of.

This a false way of looking at things.

Losing Asik for nothing and replacing him with Nazr Mohammed is probably something that ticks Reggie (and Rose) off.

Losing Korver for nothing (if Bulls don't use the TPE, which is a more than realistic expectation) is probably something that ticks Reggie off.

Constantly hearing (and Reggie probably even knows more about this than we do) about how much the Bulls want to avoid the tax is probably something that ticks Reggie off.

Not making trades that would upgrade the team (not saying a superstar, per se) due to financial considerations likely pisses Reggie off. For example, sources said that the Bulls didn't want to trade for Reddick due to luxury tax implications next year. Not only does that mean we are out of the market for a player like Reddick, but that pretty damn strongly implies the Bulls won't be upgrading next year if that means more luxury tax. That probably pisses Reggie off.

It's basically a running joke throughout the entire league that the Bulls are run like a mid-market franchise. Reggie finally comes out and says it and people sh*t their diapers.

He said that the Bulls need better players than Deng and Noah. He's not saying the Bulls don't have depth, he's saying there's not enough quality. My point remains: since the Bulls lost to the Heat, what moves can be made that would have done that? Korver and Asik, for all their abilities, are not changing the arc of this team.

[Rerisen]

Looks like he was Bucher's source all along

Also BJ Armstrong. Like Reggie, his main, dare I say 'only' concern is Rose, not the Bulls.

[johnnyvann840]

This kind of stuff can ruin teams. Reggie Rose needs to keep his mouth shut

Wise words from a wise man.

[The Kane]

He also shot 39%.

Yes because nobody else was out there to help him offensively. Rose shot for volume every game because he was forced to. That's Reggie's point. He took 24 shots a game. That's not even including shots that resulted in FTA's. He's your point guard. He shouldn't have to be tossing himself around like that for this team to win.

just stop it, that crap, he didnt need to play that way, anyone who knows basketball see that, i was hoping that he would learn from his mistakes in future, and play different way, not stay the same player

From your posts about how Derrick played against the Heat it sounds like you weren't watching the series and you know nothing about basketball. Maybe I'm wrong about you not watching the series but saying he should've just passed the ball is idiotic.

[bad knees]

Derrick is diminished today.

His brother did him a great disservice.

Derrick needs to come out right now and disavow his brother's statements.

Where is the humble guy who would rather die on the court for his team than make excuses?

He gone.

Now all we have is another talented basketball player who complains that his teammates aren't good enough to help him win. An excuse maker, not a dream achiever. So sad.

[AAU Teammate]

Just to put some of this in perspective.....the Rose camp has to be on pins and needles right now.

I forgive them somewhat

In that they honestly dont know how good Derrick will ever be again. We'd all love to have the 100% answer on that. We do not know an answer.

[TheBigSqueeze]

LAWL SAUCE. Reggie speaks out, speaking nothing but truth, and you want to TRADE Derrick Rose?

Your first post is now #2, now behind your follow-up post.

I don't want to trade him. But if our 40% shooter with one bumb knee walks in and DEMANDS a trade, I will say there is the door Derrick.

Well thank god you're not in a position to do that. Your posts get more idiotic each time sorry if that's rude. Without Derrick this team is nothing.

[Ctownbulls]

D.Rose has to be livid at his brother right now.

[WestsideResider]

Looks like he was Bucher's source all along

Also BJ Armstrong. Like Reggie, his main, dare I say 'only' concern is Rose, not the Bulls.

What? Reggie is saying he wants the Bulls to do good. The Bulls aren't beating the Heat or Thunder with their current roster.

[CousinOfDeath]

no but he could pass the **** ball, when he has three guys on him, that means someone is open, and not go through wall and shot 40 percent, he is great and all and he is still my favorite Bull, and im still hoping there is way to clear his image from all this brother crap, but its not like he is a perfect player, and its not like he played perfectly so we can blame the rest of team for our loss vs Miami...

Did you watch that series? He did pass it. Often, because he was double teamed on almost every posession. And when he passed it, none of the other 4 players on the court could do anything productive with the ball, even though they had a 4 on 3 against the defense.

Everyone crapped the bed against Miami, I agree. But the point is that Rose needs to play much better than he did in that series for us to put all the blame on his teammates. Granted, his numbers were down the entire playoffs, partially as a result of an ankle sprain he had in the first round, but compare what he did against Miami to what Lebron did with Cleveland against Orlando in 09. Lebron had a ridiculous series and they still lost -- at that point it's clear that he did everything he could to try to get that team to the Finals, but they needed more.

Now that's not to say Rose won't do better next time -- I think he will and really thought last year he would have had a much better showing (we can look at Lebron's earlier playoff runs, in particular the finals in 07, where he crapped the bed in much the same way). But he is certainly not blameless. He missed key free throws, he had good shots at the end of games but missed them, he threw the ball away constantly. In fact he said as much at the time, that it was "on him".

I agree with all of this, but I think even if Derrick played better it still would not have been enough because of the ineptitude of those around him. If Derrick played better he would have looked like superman out there. When you're doubled and tripled as often as he was and your teammates didn't provide any sort of release valve it's hard to blame a player for not shooting extremely well and turning the ball over a little more often.

[D_GoLow]

the Rose camp has to be on pins and needles right now.

No pun intended

[blumeany]

This kind of stuff can ruin teams. Reggie Rose needs to keep his mouth shut

Wise words from a wise man.

That's what it comes down to. It's just a stupid thing to do - especially mid-season like this. You can agree with what he said (I do), but disagree with him saying it in a public fashion at the wrong time. Do that crap in the offseason when it can be forgotten, not during the season before your brother comes back and on the day of a big game no less.

[Rerisen]

Man, get out your popcorn because it sure looks like the team is close to trouble with their #1 guy, or his people.

Blood is thicker than water. Bulls fans definitely shouldn't be so sure that Reggie is out in left field from Derrick in this. Just Reggie is free to throw stones with far less repercussions.

But knowing Rose's upbringing, and the influence Reggie and his family have on Derrick, it would be negligent to think this is all one-sided separate from Rose.

[WinCity]

The problem with how this went down is two-fold:

1. It makes Derrick look like an ass - not only for seemingly being a whiny bitch who has to make his grievances public, but also for the fact that he has to have his brother do the talking.

2. What was said was an indictment on his current teammates. And yes, I'm sure many of us would agree, but it's still a public 'calling out' of his teammates - even the ones he labeled as 'great'.

Quite simply, it wasn't the smart way to go about it. I'm actually wondering if they swapped Derrick's brain with Josh Smith when they did the knee surgery.

One thing you are not considering is what the behind the scenes discussions have yielded. If, and I believe this is the case, DRose has asked the team to make more aggressive moves to get better and not been happy with lack of action, then this is the logical next step. We shouldn't just assume Drose's camp is coming out of nowhere with this and that there isn't a history here.

That's true, but I think there's still even a stage you could go between telling the FO in private and blasting it in public. A leak here or there that Rose is unhappy maybe.

But haven't we seen some hints of that? Thibs and others have commented that Rose looks very good, but Rose says he is not ready yet. We have heard that Rose wanted Gasol as well as some other moves made to get better. Like Rerisen said there has been plenty of smoke and now thanks to Reggie we all say the fire. I'm not even mad about it. I hope this has the same effect as Kobe calling out LA mgt a few years ago.

[Mr Funk]

They actually would have if they didn't hard cap themselves like idiots in the offseason. They also could have offered up something better for Redick which would have been a perfect fit on this team. Or not destroyed their bench to save a few bucks.

Knock Reggie for coming out like this, but he is right about one thing. Bulls put profits above winning.

Um, Redick agreed to our offer in the 2010 offseason but Orlando matched it.

As for our bench, with the exception of losing Asik, it's much better. We now have more athleticism, ball handling and play making. And it was wise not to match that offer for Asik, as we wouldn't be able to sign Mirotic in 2014.

And yeah, we're really putting profits above winning when we're paying the luxury tax.

Seriously, go back to Blog-a-Bull.

[AAU Teammate]

Lets put it this way.

Derrick will always publicly stand by his teammates.

I'm sure deep down he wants better teammates sometimes. How could you not, especially in the face of a super team (that is wildly pompous).

It's just a matter of whether your camp always stays on message. If you are committed to the organization, you refuse the temptation to put it down publicly.

[blumeany]

Reggie's going to realize quickly his error when he feels his neck snap back with all the whiplash this is going to cause. Hoooooweeeee! Welcome to the Windy City dude.

[blumeany]

But haven't we seen some hints of that? Thibs and others have commented that Rose looks very good, but Rose says he is not ready yet. We have heard that Rose wanted Gasol as well as some other moves made to get better. Like Rerisen said there has been plenty of smoke and now thanks to Reggie we all say the fire. I'm not even mad about it. I hope this has the same effect as Kobe calling out LA mgt a few years ago.

Yeah, but all that stuff was fairly recent. And Gasol? Seriously? Looking back on it, they should be very happy they didn't make that trade. The team would be in even worse condition now.