Bulls looking at No. 8 with McDermott

[pduh01]

If Voleh, Randle, Embidd, or maybe Smart drop to #8th overall pick you take them, smile, be happy, and run.

However, if all those guys I mentioned above are taken then I guess I wlll be ok with it BUT I prefer to draft Nik Stauskas over Doug McDermott with the 8th overall pick, or even Gary Harris. Matter of fact just say no to Doug McDermott.

[johnnyvann840]

If Voleh, Randle, Embidd, or maybe Smart drop to #8th overall pick you take them, smile, be happy, and run.

However, if all those guys I mentioned above are taken then I guess I wlll be ok with it BUT I prefer to draft Nik Stauskas over Doug McDermott with the 8th overall pick, or even Gary Harris. Matter of fact just say no to Doug McDermott.

I would avoid Embiid as high as #8 and not at all for a team like the Bulls. Here is a big who has a history of foot and back problems, just had two screws put in his foot to repair a severe break of the main bone that runs through it. Couldn't make it through the college season.. Now, it's being reported that he "may have other health issues other than his foot and his back".... as talented as he is, he is a major gamble, at this point. I could see him slipping out of the top ten. I know that sounds extreme, but don't be surprised.

[GimmeDat]

I really like Doug McDermott, but I don't *really like* him at lottery range.

I think he'll have a long and successful NBA career, but he's got some real problems that are going to limit him.

Doug would be a great guy to have off the bench backing up the wings and spot minutes at the 4, but I can't see him being a great full time starter.

I honestly like Hood just as much, and he should be available at 16.

[vjoali]

I just can't see McDermott translating his game to the NBA.
Hope Bulls pick Stauskas or Harris if they go up in the draft.

[Red Larrivee]

Can anybody find me a player who averaged as few steals/blocks as this dude did in college and then went on to have a successful NBA career?

Those two stats are pretty good indicators whether somebody's game will translate over into the NBA.

What does that have to do with McDermott shooting a basketball or cutting to the rim?

McDermott could end up being a pretty bad NBA defender, but he could also end up becoming a pretty good complimentary offensive player too.

Edit: FWIW, I agree that McDermott at 8 is a reach, but I disagree with the reasons that he can't be a good basketball player being simplified down to "he's white.'

Won't have the athleticism to get those shots off. Sure he'll be able to hit open jumpers but if he is dreadful at everything else he's a net negative.

How much athleticism does he need to get a shot off? He's not a shot creator. He does a lot of off ball damage to teams.

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[othawhitemeat]

I'm not trading Mirotic for McDermott if that's what you are implying. I'm saying if we trade for McDermott, then maybe we trade Mirotic in a separate trade (say a piece for Melo or Love, or a top 5 pick, whatever he can land).

Ahhh I see what you are saying. I would say no because they would play mutually exclusive roles to one another. You draft McDermott expecting a role player while you bring Mirotic over expecting him to play a more significant role in the team offense.

Won't have the athleticism to get those shots off. Sure he'll be able to hit open jumpers but if he is dreadful at everything else he's a net negative.

McDermott will be your prototypical 3 point shooter with high off ball movement if he is going to be successful. If you expect him to create his own shot, then he will fail pretty hard. He is basically a rookie version of Kyle Korver. If he succeeds in that role, he is going to have a place in this league for a very very long time.

I"m not saying he is going to be a superstar or the player I would trade up for. I do agree that athleticism will hurt him at times. I just disagree with you. I think he is more Wally Sz then Korver.

[alucryts]

I'm not trading Mirotic for McDermott if that's what you are implying. I'm saying if we trade for McDermott, then maybe we trade Mirotic in a separate trade (say a piece for Melo or Love, or a top 5 pick, whatever he can land).

Ahhh I see what you are saying. I would say no because they would play mutually exclusive roles to one another. You draft McDermott expecting a role player while you bring Mirotic over expecting him to play a more significant role in the team offense.

Won't have the athleticism to get those shots off. Sure he'll be able to hit open jumpers but if he is dreadful at everything else he's a net negative.

McDermott will be your prototypical 3 point shooter with high off ball movement if he is going to be successful. If you expect him to create his own shot, then he will fail pretty hard. He is basically a rookie version of Kyle Korver. If he succeeds in that role, he is going to have a place in this league for a very very long time.

I"m not saying he is going to be a superstar or the player I would trade up for. I do agree that athleticism will hurt him at times. I just disagree with you. I think he is more Wally Sz then Korver.

You could.very well be right. In my opinion I don't see it, but I'm no super rookie analyst so well just have to see in time. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up like that at all. It's no huge stretch by any means.

[Ron Johnson]

Can anybody find me a player who averaged as few steals/blocks as this dude did in college and then went on to have a successful NBA career?

Those two stats are pretty good indicators whether somebody's game will translate over into the NBA.

The one stat that translates best of all is rebounding.

[RyGuy24]

Can anybody find me a player who averaged as few steals/blocks as this dude did in college and then went on to have a successful NBA career?

Those two stats are pretty good indicators whether somebody's game will translate over into the NBA.

The one stat that translates best of all is rebounding.

I was clinging to that when I still liked Beasley.

[Chi town]

I don't like Doug playing next to Melo or Love. Not enough D.

I'm only interested in Doug if we can't nab Melo or Love. Trade 19 and MDJ for AA. Move up to grab Doug at 13. I think he will fall outside top 12 on draft night.

Our plan C IMO is amnesty Boozer, trade for AA, bring over Niko, and draft Doug. I am ok with that plan as well because a healthy Rose and a Niko that get big time burn will be ready for the playoffs.

[Susan]

Can anybody find me a player who averaged as few steals/blocks as this dude did in college and then went on to have a successful NBA career?

Those two stats are pretty good indicators whether somebody's game will translate over into the NBA.

The one stat that translates best of all is rebounding.

And he's a poor rebounder.

[Susan]

Won't have the athleticism to get those shots off. Sure he'll be able to hit open jumpers but if he is dreadful at everything else he's a net negative.

Blocking shots or not making steals doesn't mean one is not athletic.

What does it mean then? You have to be quick to steal the ball from somebody else. You have to be athletic (or Shawn Bradley) to block somebody's shot. If you're not showing either, you're probably very unathletic.

Here's the list of players who have played over 27 minutes/game and averaged less than .2 steals & blocks/game since 2009.

http://cbbref.com/tiny/NIys0

You pretty much have to avoid the ball in order to be that bad.

[Chitownbulls]

Bulls never let it known who we like...I think we like #8 but it's not for McDermott.

[kyrv]

Can anybody find me a player who averaged as few steals/blocks as this dude did in college and then went on to have a successful NBA career?

Those two stats are pretty good indicators whether somebody's game will translate over into the NBA.

The one stat that translates best of all is rebounding.

Random aside, Cool Beas is a big exception and my biggest surprise about Beasley.

[iamdvsj]

I'm still team "Get Aaron Afflalo, everything else will work itself out"

Maybe I got excited by his last season...but I standby my belief that he is a key component of our future, considering we can get him for relatively cheap.

[Land Rover]

McDermott struggles against athletic guys, he is basically Adam Morrison 2.0

DO NOT WANT

[Repeat 3-peat]

Bulls never let it known who we like...I think we like #8 but it's not for McDermott.

I said this before but I believe its M.Smart. I think Boston & LAL will get either Randle/Gordon/Vonleh making Smart up for grabs at #8. Either its trading both picks for #8 or Taj & pick 16(hope its 19) for #8.

We've been looking for a guy that can bring the ball up the court and letting Rose play off ball(reason why L.Stephenson's name is brought up). Smart is perfect beside D.Rose. He needs to work on his shooting but the guy is a winner, hates to lose and will be a lockdown defender in this league.

[D_GoLow]

Bulls never let it known who we like...I think we like #8 but it's not for McDermott.

I said this before but I believe its M.Smart. I think Boston & LAL will get either Randle/Gordon/Vonleh making Smart up for grabs at #8. Either its trading both picks for #8 or Taj & pick 16(hope its 19) for #8.

We've been looking for a guy that can bring the ball up the court and letting Rose play off ball(reason why L.Stephenson's name is brought up). Smart is perfect beside D.Rose. He needs to work on his shooting but the guy is a winner, hates to lose and will be a lockdown defender in this league.

Perfect let's get a guy who can't shoot. That makes sense.

[D_GoLow]

McDermott can put the ball in the hole. Keep in mind that in college for 3-4 years team would completely zone in & gameplan on him & he'd still light it up.

If the Bulls traded up for him, I'd be pleased.

[MeloBull]

I just can't see McDermott translating his game to the NBA.
Hope Bulls pick Stauskas or Harris if they go up in the draft.

My thoughts exactly.