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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#281 » by WesPeace » Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:31 am

leo921 wrote:what about a trade with some variation in order to get Mikal Bridges. 6-7 3 and D wing. some options i have come up with are

can add some combo or our pick and Port pick as well

ayo/white for Bridges
Carter/White for Bridges
Huerter/White for Bridges
Vuc/White/Carter for Bridges/Robinson

Actually really like the last option leaves us with Ayo/Bridges/Giddy/Matas/Smith, lots of 2 way play with Ayo/Bridges/Matas who can all cover for Giddy and Smith can spread the floor at 5, play pick and roll, is a solid switchable defender.
still have a deep bench of Ball/Huerter/Williams/Phillips/Robinson


NY would refuse all those offers, they spent 5 picks on Bridges.. White/Carter cracked me up lol..

Also as Wolffy said, you dont trade primary scorer for 3&D guy, so White for Bridges.

I would trade this years pick, POR pick, Williams and Ball for MB if they want and thats about it!
You shouldn't trade farm for player like Bridges!
He is good,but not that good..
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Post#282 » by PJSteven22 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:11 am

Infinity2152 wrote:See, I disagree that we have to have a true number 1 to win. The Celtics don't have a true number 1. The Rockets don't have a true number 1. Before this year, Donovan Mitchell would not have been considered a true number 1. Half the teams with true number 1's are flailing. And if you were a number 1 or number 2 and wanted to be traded, you probably want to go to a team that's already good and missing one top player (like we're close to being)

For some reason, I think Giddey is still waaaaay underestimated in here. The guy comes to a new team and as soon as he's given the green light, for the first time in his career, he's putting up video game numbers. All these talks about his limitations, and he just keeps getting better. Some players are force multipliers. I think Ball is a huge force multiplier on both sides. Giddey's an offensive multiplier so you can start a defense first guy. You put a very good defensive wing/PF and a very good center with Giddey, Coby, and Matas, you're going to have a very good team. Giddey's defense has gotten better and Matas is a good defender. Not like Coby is the worst defender in the league :).

Of course we should keep trying to get top talent IF IT FITS, but hopefully our rookie is good enough to fill one of those spots. Williams is SUPPOSED to take one of them, lol. Smith could be that center. And we'll have money in FA to fill the gaps.

Celtics have Tatum. Rockets have an elite defense that masks their offensive woes.
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Post#283 » by patryk7754 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:45 pm

I think Kuminga has been DNP in the last two games, and I believe he racked a few of them up since the Butler trade. Not sure if its just a coaching decision or had something to do with health, probably a little of both. If we can flip Williams for Kuminga, that would be a massive deal. Not that Kuminga is set to be a major difference maker, but he's talented and we'd be off one of the worst contracts in the nba. Williams, theoretically, possesses a skill set that the Warriors would like. Maybe Kerr can bring the best out of him.

I think with David Griffin out, there's a stronger chance than ever that the Pelicans seriously consider moving on from Zion (and just blowing up the whole team) so we should keep an eye on that as well
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Post#284 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Apr 16, 2025 4:21 pm

We just got rid of our overpaid zero IQ player. I'd rather not acquire another one.
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Post#285 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Apr 16, 2025 4:54 pm

patryk7754 wrote:
I think with David Griffin out, there's a stronger chance than ever that the Pelicans seriously consider moving on from Zion (and just blowing up the whole team) so we should keep an eye on that as well


I wonder if Dumars would even do business with the Bulls lol

I’d give up 3 protected 1st rounders to pair Zion with this gang. A motivated Zion gives us atleast 10 more wins and a shot vs the Celtics or a healthy Philly team in an inevitable ECF showdown.
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Post#286 » by sco » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:03 pm

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patryk7754 wrote:
I think with David Griffin out, there's a stronger chance than ever that the Pelicans seriously consider moving on from Zion (and just blowing up the whole team) so we should keep an eye on that as well


I wonder if Dumars would even do business with the Bulls lol

I’d give up 3 protected 1st rounders to pair Zion with this gang. A motivated Zion gives us atleast 10 more wins and a shot vs the Celtics or a healthy Philly team in an inevitable ECF showdown.

I'd be happy to take a chance on Zion at a discount, but that feels like too much to me. First of all, so far, nobody's seen a "motivated" Zion. Second, his durability is low, and third, his game despite being elite, is limited to paint (mainly rim) scoring.
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Post#287 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:08 pm

Zion has been playing motivated plenty, mainly to get out of N.O.

He was obviously hooping hard to regain his trade value before they DNP’d him for the rest of the season to keep the tank spot within the top 3-4.

I honestly don’t know what a good trade for Zion looks like. I just don’t wanna give up the core three guys to get him.
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Post#288 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:13 pm

Coby White and PWill for Zion
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Post#289 » by sco » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:14 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:Zion has been playing motivated plenty, mainly to get out of N.O.

He was obviously hooping hard to regain his trade value before they DNP’d him for the rest of the season to keep the tank spot within the top 3-4.

I honestly don’t know what a good trade for Zion looks like. I just don’t wanna give up the core three guys to get him.

I'm with you. Although, I'm willing to give up Coby as part of the deal as I feel like his value will fall if we bring in a #1 option. IMO our roster need changes such that we'd be better off starting Ball or Huerter alongside Zion. Ball, Giddey, Matas, Zion, Smith would be super exciting to me next season.
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Post#290 » by Dan Z » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:25 pm

patryk7754 wrote:I think Kuminga has been DNP in the last two games, and I believe he racked a few of them up since the Butler trade. Not sure if its just a coaching decision or had something to do with health, probably a little of both. If we can flip Williams for Kuminga, that would be a massive deal. Not that Kuminga is set to be a major difference maker, but he's talented and we'd be off one of the worst contracts in the nba. Williams, theoretically, possesses a skill set that the Warriors would like. Maybe Kerr can bring the best out of him.

I think with David Griffin out, there's a stronger chance than ever that the Pelicans seriously consider moving on from Zion (and just blowing up the whole team) so we should keep an eye on that as well


I think Kuminga is up for a new contract this off season...?
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#291 » by WesPeace » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:44 pm

patryk7754 wrote:I think Kuminga has been DNP in the last two games, and I believe he racked a few of them up since the Butler trade. Not sure if its just a coaching decision or had something to do with health, probably a little of both. If we can flip Williams for Kuminga, that would be a massive deal. Not that Kuminga is set to be a major difference maker, but he's talented and we'd be off one of the worst contracts in the nba. Williams, theoretically, possesses a skill set that the Warriors would like. Maybe Kerr can bring the best out of him.

I think with David Griffin out, there's a stronger chance than ever that the Pelicans seriously consider moving on from Zion (and just blowing up the whole team) so we should keep an eye on that as well


So shipping out one young overpaid guy for another incoming soon to be overpaid young guy?
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Post#292 » by PJSteven22 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:32 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:Coby White and PWill for Zion

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Post#293 » by patryk7754 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:46 pm

As stated, the main benefit would be moving off Williams garbage bottom five contract. Kuminga getting the same money would be significantly better as he’s a much better player. No debate about that. And idk why everyone just assumes he’s going to get 100m deal.
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Post#294 » by jnrjr79 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:52 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:Coby White and PWill for Zion


I assume New Orleans will be looking for draft capital first and foremost. Even if they were willing to do just sort of a player-for-player deal, you'd think they'd want salary relief and wouldn't be willing to take PWill contract. One wonders whether Coby + Vooch's expiring would be more enticing.

I could almost talk myself into this. It'll probably flop - I don't trust Zion to ever be healthy and he seems to have maturity issues. But you'd be taking a big swing while only trading away an expiring guy you don't even want + a talented player who you may not be able to keep beyond next year. And since Zion's deal is voidable for health, it's also not a huge commitment.
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Post#295 » by Jcool0 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:53 pm

You want defense and a center.... But would you max a possible non max worthy guy & give up a lot to get him.

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Post#296 » by patryk7754 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:56 pm

Jcool0 wrote:You want defense and a center.... But would you max a possible non max worthy guy & give up a lot to get him.

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I would guess they moving off name would be their first choice. Saw a random post from early this year, so take this with a grain of salt, but I saw the grizzlies would prioritize keep jackson over everyone else. Probably because ja is a dumbass
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Post#297 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:23 pm

sco wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:Zion has been playing motivated plenty, mainly to get out of N.O.

He was obviously hooping hard to regain his trade value before they DNP’d him for the rest of the season to keep the tank spot within the top 3-4.

I honestly don’t know what a good trade for Zion looks like. I just don’t wanna give up the core three guys to get him.

I'm with you. Although, I'm willing to give up Coby as part of the deal as I feel like his value will fall if we bring in a #1 option. IMO our roster need changes such that we'd be better off starting Ball or Huerter alongside Zion. Ball, Giddey, Matas, Zion, Smith would be super exciting to me next season.


I’m with you. I’m willing to give up Coby plus filler for Zion. If that includes the 2025 1st, so be it.

Zion/Matas/Giddey would be something going forward. The UC would be a highlight show nightly.

Coby White
2025 1st round pick (currently 13th)
Zach Collins (expiring)
and a future 1st (top 5 protections)

for Zion Williamson.
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Post#298 » by Infinity2152 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:23 am

NecessaryEvil wrote:
sco wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:Zion has been playing motivated plenty, mainly to get out of N.O.

He was obviously hooping hard to regain his trade value before they DNP’d him for the rest of the season to keep the tank spot within the top 3-4.

I honestly don’t know what a good trade for Zion looks like. I just don’t wanna give up the core three guys to get him.

I'm with you. Although, I'm willing to give up Coby as part of the deal as I feel like his value will fall if we bring in a #1 option. IMO our roster need changes such that we'd be better off starting Ball or Huerter alongside Zion. Ball, Giddey, Matas, Zion, Smith would be super exciting to me next season.


I’m with you. I’m willing to give up Coby plus filler for Zion. If that includes the 2025 1st, so be it.

Zion/Matas/Giddey would be something going forward. The UC would be a highlight show nightly.

Coby White
2025 1st round pick (currently 13th)
Zach Collins (expiring)
and a future 1st (top 5 protections)

for Zion Williamson.


In with this. Clears up the center logjam, gives us a legit shot at a number 1, and we should still have great cap space in 2026 to add to them. Of course, you know the actual lineup Billy would start of Giddey, Huerter, Matas, Zion, Vucevic will be bad defensively, lol.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#299 » by GuardianEnzo » Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:38 am

Most of these trade discussions for Zion (Coby and Williams, ROFL) seem contingent on NO deciding they want to do us a solid. The reality is, whatever his issues are the minute Zion walks in the door he'd be our best player. By far. Maybe he can stay on the court, maybe not. Maybe he's in great shape, maybe not. But if he's close to his healthy self and playing, he's easily your #1. That's the sort of thing that transforms a team, and it doesn't come cheap. Cheaper than it would because of baggage, but the idea of Coby and two #1s is probably the only one that even gets them to pick up the phone.
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Post#300 » by patryk7754 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:55 am

NecessaryEvil wrote:
patryk7754 wrote:
I think with David Griffin out, there's a stronger chance than ever that the Pelicans seriously consider moving on from Zion (and just blowing up the whole team) so we should keep an eye on that as well


I wonder if Dumars would even do business with the Bulls lol

I’d give up 3 protected 1st rounders to pair Zion with this gang. A motivated Zion gives us atleast 10 more wins and a shot vs the Celtics or a healthy Philly team in an inevitable ECF showdown.

I’m pretty sure Zion’s win percentage before this year is pretty high. The injury concerns people have are definitely legit but I think he kind of embellishes because he doesn’t want to be there. Not sure if that’s a good excuse, but who will care once he’s dominating 70 plus games a year in a major market.

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