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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#301 » by davhern » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:23 pm

Bulls_MIT wrote:Instead of all the speculating, put yourself in Bron's shoes. What seems most attractive. Honestly, I'd have to say Miami, then Cleveland, then in third place Chicago.
As far as picking a place to live, Miami has it beat, beautiful place, great weather, awesome location on the ocean.
As far as Wade vs. Rose, Wade has it beat. Wade has more experience and is on a different level. Rose will be there soon, but not there yet.
If I was Lebron, Miami would be very tempting. I wish I could say the same about Chicago, but with the brutal winters, brutal traffic, brutal roads around the Berto Center, beat down area around Berto Center, and location of the UC, Chicago is not as tempting as Miami.



It's Noah and Rose vs. Wade, and it's debatable short term, a no-brainer in the Bulls favor long-term.


And how is Cleveland more attractive than Chicago?
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#302 » by nbhadja » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:24 pm

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Awoooga wrote:It almost would not be fair to have this happen. Wade, Bron and Bosh?!? That's a couple of guaranteed titles.


And James/Bosh/Noah/Rose isn't?


Quite frankly :wink: , no. Rose is no wade. You put three starters on the olympic team together and they will win numerous titles. The Chicago combo, while good, is not like Miami.


Noah and Rose combined> Wade

Also Rose is 21 while Wade is 28 with a injury history. Wade is in his prime while Rose is not even close to his prime.

Rose over the next 10 years will be in the course of his prime. Wade over the next 10 years will be leaving his prime.
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#303 » by davhern » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:24 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:So even though he has been trying to trade Beasley for a year - unsuccessfully - now Riley will be able to find a trading partner on short notice? OK.

The kid has already, in two short years, failed a drug test and spent time in the looney bin. The only player with lower trade value is Eddy Curry.



Eh, I don't know... would it really be that hard to get someone to take on that salary?

I suppose if said team didn't want to deal with the ramifications (super team in Miami), that might make it a little harder... but that would depend on whether or not it was a team that actually is trying to be competitive for a title anyway.
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#304 » by BullsKY » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:25 pm

I really, really, really dislike Dwayne Wade.
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#305 » by TheAdmiral » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:26 pm

Come on guys. Let's not pretend it's easier to move Deng than it's to move Beasley.
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#306 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:26 pm

davhern wrote:
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:So even though he has been trying to trade Beasley for a year - unsuccessfully - now Riley will be able to find a trading partner on short notice? OK.

The kid has already, in two short years, failed a drug test and spent time in the looney bin. The only player with lower trade value is Eddy Curry.



Eh, I don't know... would it really be that hard to get someone to take on that salary?

I suppose if said team didn't want to deal with the ramifications (super team in Miami), that might make it a little harder... but that would depend on whether or not it was a team that actually is trying to be competitive for a title anyway.



Hard enough that they tried before the draft and for the past year unsuccessfully.
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#307 » by bc legends » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:26 pm

I honestly can't see LeBron going to MIA to play with Wade, the already established superstar. SAS is just looking for attention. When it's all said and done, LeBron will be playing in CHI. :D
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#308 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:27 pm

TheAdmiral wrote:Come on guys. Let's not pretend it's easier to move Deng than it's to move Beasley.



Wjo said on the radio this morning that no GM's want to take Beasley. The kid has a failed drug test and a stint in a rehab/looney bin. And he did that all while being in the league two seasons.
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#309 » by davhern » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:27 pm

TheAdmiral wrote:Come on guys. Let's not pretend it's easier to move Deng than it's to move Beasley.



It's Deng for a lower salary vs. Beasley for none.

Not quite apples to apples.
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#310 » by davhern » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:28 pm

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Hard enough that they tried before the draft and for the past year unsuccessfully.




For nothing? Really? I can't see why at least one team wouldn't take him on, even with all the warts.
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#311 » by TheAdmiral » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:29 pm

davhern wrote:
TheAdmiral wrote:Come on guys. Let's not pretend it's easier to move Deng than it's to move Beasley.



It's Deng for a lower salary vs. Beasley for none.

Not quite apples to apples.


Most scenario's I've read on this board were also Deng for no salary. Or that's what Bulls fans expect anyway.
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#312 » by Bulls_MIT » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:29 pm

davhern wrote:
Bulls_MIT wrote:Instead of all the speculating, put yourself in Bron's shoes. What seems most attractive. Honestly, I'd have to say Miami, then Cleveland, then in third place Chicago.
As far as picking a place to live, Miami has it beat, beautiful place, great weather, awesome location on the ocean.
As far as Wade vs. Rose, Wade has it beat. Wade has more experience and is on a different level. Rose will be there soon, but not there yet.
If I was Lebron, Miami would be very tempting. I wish I could say the same about Chicago, but with the brutal winters, brutal traffic, brutal roads around the Berto Center, beat down area around Berto Center, and location of the UC, Chicago is not as tempting as Miami.



It's Noah and Rose vs. Wade, and it's debatable short term, a no-brainer in the Bulls favor long-term.


And how is Cleveland more attractive than Chicago?


just because of his support. It's his home. I'm not sure he wants to divorce his home peeps. If a clear favorite between Chicago and Miami can't be made in his mind, then he might be inclined to stay put. I don't know, I just have a gut feeling that it's Miami first, Cleveland second, and Chicago third. This gut feeling started today, so it might be gone tomorrow :D
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Post#313 » by Sever82 » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:30 pm

Bulls_MIT wrote:Instead of all the speculating, put yourself in Bron's shoes. What seems most attractive. Honestly, I'd have to say Miami, then Cleveland, then in third place Chicago.
As far as picking a place to live, Miami has it beat, beautiful place, great weather, awesome location on the ocean.
As far as Wade vs. Rose, Wade has it beat. Wade has more experience and is on a different level. Rose will be there soon, but not there yet.
If I was Lebron, Miami would be very tempting. I wish I could say the same about Chicago, but with the brutal winters, brutal traffic, brutal roads around the Berto Center, beat down area around Berto Center, and location of the UC, Chicago is not as tempting as Miami.


:roll:

Well it also depends on competitiveness. And on another note, he may play in Miami or Chicago but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll live there. Many players live elsewhere and sign on another city's team.

But anyways.

Whats more attractive as a sports city? Chicago is way more attractive in this instance, Chicago even in their losing seasons has been at the top in Attendance in the NBA, Miami hasn't. Chicago as a city as a rich sports tradition in all sports and nearly every sports franchise in Chicago is popular around the country which speaks volumes on how much fan support the city of Chicago has when it comes to sports. (Wasn't Brian Urlacher's jersey a top selling NFL Jersey).

Rose Vs. Wade debate? Wade is better than Rose now but Rose is only 21 yrs old. Not to mention Miami is Wade's City, If Lebron goes there, he wont be number one over Lebron, can Lebron's ego and reputation handle that? Lebron is the best player in the NBA and the would be the best player on the Heat but around the NBA the Heat will still be known as Wade's Team and Lebron would take more of the Pippen Role than the Jordan role despite the fact that he's better than Wade.

Location of UC and Berto? Give me a break bud, you make it sound like both facilities are in the middle of nowhere. The UC always has sell out crowds and again, its not exactly in the middle of nowhere it still fairly close to downtown.
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#314 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:30 pm

davhern wrote:
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Hard enough that they tried before the draft and for the past year unsuccessfully.




For nothing? Really? I can't see why at least one team wouldn't take him on, even with all the warts.



I think if he was just an underperforming player it wouldn't be a problem at all. The problem is that he is underperforming and has been a complete train wreck in his two seasons.
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#315 » by boogydown » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:31 pm

Bulls_MIT wrote:but with the brutal winters, brutal traffic, brutal roads around the Berto Center, beat down area around Berto Center, and location of the UC, Chicago is not as tempting as Miami.


brutal crime, brutal people, brutal hurricanes, oh and can Lebron speak Espanol? It's a completely different culture there. No quiero taco miami.

I'm sure Lebron doesn't care a bit about traffic, roads, and how busy is it downtime. Oh no driver, we're going to be late for the game, damn I should have chosen Miami and their non traffic downtown over Chicago. If he doesn't want traffic, he should go to Memphis.
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#316 » by davhern » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:31 pm

TheAdmiral wrote:
davhern wrote:
TheAdmiral wrote:Come on guys. Let's not pretend it's easier to move Deng than it's to move Beasley.



It's Deng for a lower salary vs. Beasley for none.

Not quite apples to apples.


Most scenario's I've read on this board were also Deng for no salary. Or that's what Bulls fans expect anyway.



But that's not what we NEED to do in order to clear a second max.
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#317 » by NSJ » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:31 pm

Bulls_MIT wrote:Instead of all the speculating, put yourself in Bron's shoes. What seems most attractive. Honestly, I'd have to say Miami, then Cleveland, then in third place Chicago.
As far as picking a place to live, Miami has it beat, beautiful place, great weather, awesome location on the ocean.
As far as Wade vs. Rose, Wade has it beat. Wade has more experience and is on a different level. Rose will be there soon, but not there yet.
If I was Lebron, Miami would be very tempting. I wish I could say the same about Chicago, but with the brutal winters, brutal traffic, brutal roads around the Berto Center, beat down area around Berto Center, and location of the UC, Chicago is not as tempting as Miami.



"brutal roads around the Berto Center"? wow, have you been to Deerfield? As for the UC location, you'll find some really expensive real estate right near there. That neighborhood isn't what it used to be.

LBJ is from Cleveland and should be used to the concept of 'winter'. I think he can find a nice abode to domicile in and bunker down for the long cold winter.
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Post#318 » by JackFinn » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:32 pm

The problem with Beasley is that he followed his somewhat disappointing rookie year with an actually worse sophomore year. I'm still surprised Riley hasn't been able to unload him, though. Maybe Riley's been asking for too much in return. There was the report he asked for the Nets' #3 pick, and the report of him declining a Beasley for Craig Smith trade.
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#319 » by davhern » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:33 pm

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Bulls_MIT wrote:Instead of all the speculating, put yourself in Bron's shoes. What seems most attractive. Honestly, I'd have to say Miami, then Cleveland, then in third place Chicago.
As far as picking a place to live, Miami has it beat, beautiful place, great weather, awesome location on the ocean.
As far as Wade vs. Rose, Wade has it beat. Wade has more experience and is on a different level. Rose will be there soon, but not there yet.
If I was Lebron, Miami would be very tempting. I wish I could say the same about Chicago, but with the brutal winters, brutal traffic, brutal roads around the Berto Center, beat down area around Berto Center, and location of the UC, Chicago is not as tempting as Miami.



"brutal roads around the Berto Center"? wow, have you been to Deerfield? As for the UC location, you'll find some really expensive real estate right near there. That neighborhood isn't what it used to be.

LBJ is from Cleveland and should be used to the concept of 'winter'. I think he can find a nice abode to domicile in and bunker down for the long cold winter.



Failed attempts to develop the area right at the end of the boom... The area is still very bad.
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Re: Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami 

Post#320 » by davhern » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:34 pm

JackFinn wrote:The problem with Beasley is that he followed his somewhat disappointing rookie year with an actually worse sophomore year. I'm still surprised Riley hasn't been able to unload him, though. Maybe Riley's been asking for too much in return. There was the report he asked for the Nets' #3 pick, and the report of him declining a Beasley for Craig Smith trade.



He might just be hanging onto him for a Bosh S&T.

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