Deng to GS PG.13 / PG.43 Bulls Say Otherwise

Flabz · Post #301 » by **Flabz** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:33 am

How about...

D. Wright to Utah
Biedrins, Bell, 7th pick to CHI
Deng & Watson to GSW

boogydown · Post #302 » by **boogydown** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:33 am

Maybe Wright to Utah for a 2nd back (Agreement in Principle). Can't be something big.

xpmar9x · Post #303 » by **xpmar9x** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:34 am

I'd much rather do Ed Davis & #8 for Luol Deng. (if possible)

We get a lot of money off the books, #8, and a decent 5th rotational big (which would allow us to trade Gibson or Asik, if needed).

theanimal23 · Post #304 » by **theanimal23** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:35 am

Maybe something like this with GSW's second round pick(s) going to Utah

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=78other

(Personally not a fan of this deal for us)

singal3 · Post #305 » by **singal3** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:36 am

LOL, 2 years ago we were talking about how many first rounders we would have to give up to get Deng off the books.

Red Larrivee · Post #306 » by **Red Larrivee** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:38 am

PJ Brown wrote:This is a tough one. I doubt the Bulls would give up the Charlotte pick in a trade where they're already giving up the top guy and the best thing they get back is "only" #7. #29 doesn't seem like anywhere near enough enticement for the Jazz, though. On the surface, it is hard to justify them taking on Biedrins, unless they are in fact dumping a big elsewhere. Even then, while I agree that at his age and with his past accomplishments, plenty of teams would take a chance on him moving forward, I doubt many are taking a $20 million chance on him. This one is pretty fascinating. I could see this being the kind of deal the Bulls and Warriors are working on, even if I'd personally like to see more return for Deng.

Yeah but then GS would be dealing two firsts. One to get Deng and another to shed Biedrins. I'm not sure they're too keen on that idea either. Ultimately it depends on how badly they want Deng. They paid $7M to Kwame Brown last year to be a backup, and they've bit the bullet on Beans deal this long. So I'm not sure they're exactly in a hurry to lose another pick because of it.

Post #307 » by **dougthonus** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:38 am

dice wrote:
dougthonus wrote:I'm not sure how much of Salmon's final year is guaranteed, but if it's none or close to none then Salmons + #5 for Deng crushes the GS offer. I'd think there's a pretty good shot that Sacramento would do that.

i dunno about that. salmons has fallen off a cliff the past couple of years

incoming salary - 23.6
outgoing - 27.6

even that mere 4 mil over 2 years in savings might marginally help us avoid lux tax this year (?), re-sign omer and/or taj. along with the potential in the draft pick might make make the deal worthwhile, but hardly something to be excited about

That's why I said it would depend on the guaranteed amount in the final year. If it's fully non guaranteed then it's 2 years 16 million vs 2 years 27.6 million.

Flabz · Post #308 » by **Flabz** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:38 am

xpmar9x wrote:I'd much rather do Ed Davis & #8 for Luol Deng. (if possible)

We get a lot of money off the books, #8, and a decent 5th rotational big (which would allow us to trade Gibson or Asik, if needed).

As would I, but I doubt TOR takes that deal. they would probably want to dump a contract like kleiza or calderon in that deal.

I was thinking to do Calderon, James Johnson, 8th pick for Deng and Watson. We still shave off 4 mil from this season and then next season we shave off calderon and johnson's salary which would be around 13 mill.

GloriaJames · Post #309 » by **GloriaJames** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:38 am

xpmar9x wrote:I'd much rather do Ed Davis & #8 for Luol Deng. (if possible)

We get a lot of money off the books, #8, and a decent 5th rotational big (which would allow us to trade Gibson or Asik, if needed).

Not only does this not work from a salary perspective, but Davis is also worth more than Deng.

theanimal23 · Post #310 » by **theanimal23** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:39 am

GloriaJames wrote:
xpmar9x wrote:I'd much rather do Ed Davis & #8 for Luol Deng. (if possible)

We get a lot of money off the books, #8, and a decent 5th rotational big (which would allow us to trade Gibson or Asik, if needed).

Not only does this not work from a salary perspective, but Davis is also worth WAY more than Deng.

Toronto is under the cap

GloriaJames · Post #311 » by **GloriaJames** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:40 am

theanimal23 wrote:
GloriaJames wrote:
xpmar9x wrote:I'd much rather do Ed Davis & #8 for Luol Deng. (if possible)

We get a lot of money off the books, #8, and a decent 5th rotational big (which would allow us to trade Gibson or Asik, if needed).

Not only does this not work from a salary perspective, but Davis is also worth WAY more than Deng.

Toronto is under the cap

Oh.
BTW, I removed some hyperbole from my post because Davis isn't valued as much as I initially thought and I hit Submit too early.

boogydown · Post #312 » by **boogydown** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:42 am

Jazz want a Point Guard upgrade and backcourt help.

Whether Lillard's taken before No. 8 will likely impact any attempt made by Jazz to move up in first round of #NBA draft and select him

Makes more sense the Jazz get the #7

Post #313 » by **Tommy Udo 6** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:43 am

Per Sham's site: Salmons final season is only $1,000,000 guaranteed if he is waived by 6/30/2014

boogydown · Post #314 » by **boogydown** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:43 am

Tommy Udo 6 wrote:Per Sham's site: Salmons final season is only $1,000,000 guaranteed if he is waived by 6/30/2014

Yes.

Red Larrivee · Post #315 » by **Red Larrivee** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:44 am

boogydown wrote:Makes more sense the Jazz get the #7

Then the Bulls hang up, as it defeats the purpose for them.

musiqsoulchild · Post #316 » by **musiqsoulchild** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:45 am

Keeping Biedrins could mean a play for Howard.

Can we do Noah + Taj + Asik + Charlotte Pick + Unguaranteeds for Dwight and Hedo?

That would leave us with:

Dwight / Biedrins
Boozer/ Hedo
Dorrel / Hedo / Butler
Rip / #7 / Butler
Rose / Kidd / Lucas

That looks like a winner to me. Starting unit of Dwight/ Boozer / Dorrel / Rip/ Rose with Hedo coming in as a closer point forward.

I think we can use the MMLE on top of that lineup for some more 3 point scoring to round out the roster.

boogydown · Post #317 » by **boogydown** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:45 am

What happened to John Salmons last year?

7.5 PPG - 41% FG - 29% 3PT FG - 27.2 MPG - 32 years old

blumeany · Post #318 » by **blumeany** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:46 am

I'm still rooting for a pick higher than 7, or at least a better player coming back.

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boogydown · Post #319 » by **boogydown** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:46 am

Red Larrivee wrote:
boogydown wrote:Makes more sense the Jazz get the #7

Then the Bulls hang up, as it defeats the purpose for them.

The Bulls hang up as soon as they are told to add the Bobcats Pick.

ChicagoStrong · Post #320 » by **ChicagoStrong** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:46 am

boogydown wrote:What happened to John Salmons last year?

7.5 PPG - 41% FG - 29% 3PT FG - 27.2 MPG - 32 years old

Too many ball dominate players in Sacramento.