PG: Screwed the pooch

[BeatDaCavs420]

I think you should view it as people giving you the benefit of the doubt. Because if your Butler post wan't based on irrational fanboy backlash emotion, then it's the worst objective basketball analysis ever posted on this board. Take your pick.

If you're gonna constantly passive-aggressively sneak diss people you should probably work on your grammar

Anyways not sneak dissing you. Just laughing at you like I did when you first made your post about Jimmy.

[Flopper]

Not a great look for fans of a team featuring Butler, Wade, and Rondo to complain about an opposing player exaggerating contact to get a call. Think of how many times we've seen Butler turn a bad shot into 2 FT attempts by initiating contact and then selling it hard to the refs by snapping his head back or falling down. For better or worse, that's just how the game is played now.

[kulaz3000]

Not a great look for fans of a team featuring Butler, Wade, and Rondo to complain about an opposing player exaggerating contact to get a call. Think of how many times we've seen Butler turn a bad shot into 2 FT attempts by initiating contact and then selling it hard to the refs by snapping his head back or falling down. For better or worse, that's just how the game is played now.

The difference is, Butler and whomever may flop from time to time, but they don't take it a step further and start bi*ching and moaning to the refs as to why they didn't get the call.

I've never seen a team from the players to their head coach who complains as much as the Clippers. It's just annoying as hell. To think that Fred got the boot, when all Rivers was doing was getting on the refs the entire game. It's like they do it so often, the refs are immune to their ranting and raving, and when the refs cope it from our usual quiet Fred, it's like WOAH, where did that come from? YOU'RE OUT!

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If you're gonna constantly passive-aggressively sneak diss people you should probably work on your english

Before all of this goes any further push, let's forget all the Rose-defense talk and just look at what you said that elicited such a response from everyone.

Jimmy Butler is averaging 24/6/4 with 2 steal a game, on 46% FG and 43% shooting, with great defense to boot. He has absolutely carried this basketball team so far this season, and he's solidified himself as probably a Top 10 player at this point.

He may not have the most aesthetic game compared to a lot of superstar players, but the proof is in the pudding statistically. The fact that one sub-par night amidst a slew of incredible ones warrants you to critique him so heavily suggests there's probably a bit of bias there.

I don't know how to make it any more clear that I've been critical of him before that bad game, its just that one game that people decided to highlight and blow up. I also don't care about statistics. Watch. Him. Play. He looks like he's carrying the team because for him to get his stats he has to iso it up. He cannot play team ball. Thing is, our team is gravitating towards team ball and ball movement. Everytime he gets the ball passed to him, he stops the ball. He then may end up getting a score off a awkward shot or force a call, but we cannot rely on that. We need smart shots, smart plays, and smart shot selections, not someone who calls for the ball because everyone has been calling him a top player and leader, and then gets into positions where he has to stop and look to pass the ball off because he wasn't able to draw a foul. That happens ALOT. That shouldn't be apart of your game. His game doesn't fit.

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I still have my avatar because I'm embarrased by the Rose hate that went too far and wanted to show that not all of us are like that. But that has nothing to do with anything anymore.

I think you should view it as people giving you the benefit of the doubt. Because if your Butler post wan't based on irrational fanboy backlash emotion, then it's the worst objective basketball analysis ever posted on this board. Take your pick.

Fanboy backlash emotion. Lol.

I like how I've stated my dislike for Butler many times recently, even when he was playing well, yet was ignored, then everybody suddenly hears me during his bad game, and doubled down on Rose, because its still somehow all about Rose even when hes gone. All the people who hate on Rose are the only ones who still talk about him. My post had nothing to do with him, so if you want to disagree and say it's a bad analysis, thats your opinion. Butler's gotta go.

Goes for you too Mark.

Also, if I had subtley insulted user the way these two above me have, I'd have gotten quick warnings.

No, you would not. Because you would have been reacting to somebody who was basically trolling the thread.

You haven't been right about anything in 2 days.

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In hindsight...

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Its a subtle thing. Of course they will protect the product in this case. Henry Wadsworth Wrongfellows.

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I think you should view it as people giving you the benefit of the doubt. Because if your Butler post wan't based on irrational fanboy backlash emotion, then it's the worst objective basketball analysis ever posted on this board. Take your pick.

Fanboy backlash emotion. Lol.

I like how I've stated my dislike for Butler many times recently, even when he was playing well, yet was ignored, then everybody suddenly hears me during his bad game, and doubled down on Rose, because its still somehow all about Rose even when hes gone. All the people who hate on Rose are the only ones who still talk about him. My post had nothing to do with him, so if you want to disagree and say it's a bad analysis, thats your opinion. Butler's gotta go.

Goes for you too Mark.

Also, if I had subtley insulted user the way these two above me have, I'd have gotten quick warnings.

No, you would not. Because you would have been reacting to somebody who was basically trolling the thread.

You havent been right about anything in 2 days.

k.

[Bulls03]

In hindsight...

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Its a subtle thing. Of course they will protect the product in this case. Henry Wadsworth Wrongfellows.

The travel cancels out everything else though. Oh well.

[BoozerRoNo]

I think you should view it as people giving you the benefit of the doubt. Because if your Butler post wan't based on irrational fanboy backlash emotion, then it's the worst objective basketball analysis ever posted on this board. Take your pick.

Fanboy backlash emotion. Lol.

I like how I've stated my dislike for Butler many times recently, even when he was playing well, yet was ignored, then everybody suddenly hears me during his bad game, and doubled down on Rose, because its still somehow all about Rose even when hes gone. All the people who hate on Rose are the only ones who still talk about him. My post had nothing to do with him, so if you want to disagree and say it's a bad analysis, thats your opinion. Butler's gotta go.

Goes for you too Mark.

Also, if I had subtley insulted user the way these two above me have, I'd have gotten quick warnings.

No, you would not. Because you would have been reacting to somebody who was basically trolling the thread.

You haven't been right about anything in 2 days.

Its not Rose but Rose can be used here. Its Rondo. When Rose had his good games Jimmy played bad or not as good most of the time. Rondo is just slightly better than having Rose. Rondo had a nice game Jimmy didn't play as well. The Rondo/Rose effect. While it didn't help a good defender that has made Kobe not play as well was defending him.

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Rose was a problem for the overall team, not just Jimmy, but Rondo has nothing to do with it. Jimmy excels in ISO offense, when the ball gets moving he has problems

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Another note from last night that I forgot to mention was that when Butler defended Blake in the opening minutes he took a shot and was wincing for a stretch while holding his (right) side. He shook it off but he wasn't moving like he was afterwards and I attributed that to his slow start and lack of driving.

I didn't see an elbow but it was while Blake was backing him down and he was doing his herky-jerky elbow swipes so I figured that is what hurt him.

I think what's his face LA announcer ME Oh My said Jimmy was limping after that one on one where Jimmy got shook off of Blake for a Blake layup. Jimmy didn't seem right last night.

Before all of this goes any further push, let's forget all the Rose-defense talk and just look at what you said that elicited such a response from everyone.

Jimmy Butler is averaging 24/6/4 with 2 steal a game, on 46% FG and 43% shooting, with great defense to boot. He has absolutely carried this basketball team so far this season, and he's solidified himself as probably a Top 10 player at this point.

He may not have the most aesthetic game compared to a lot of superstar players, but the proof is in the pudding statistically. The fact that one sub-par night amidst a slew of incredible ones warrants you to critique him so heavily suggests there's probably a bit of bias there.

the last few seasons, when healthy, he has been unstoppable force 100% of those games damn near. When he gets dinged with the various things he has had, he has slowed noticably down. So we shall see. He has been healthy lately, and the eyes and stats match up with that

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