Waived players tracking thread

[Tetlak]

Any player who doesn't directly help with the fact that we are dead last in 3 point makes and attempts is a waste of time.

[sco]

Any player who doesn't directly help with the fact that we are dead last in 3 point makes and attempts is a waste of time.

I agree, but would say that anyone who gets Ayo out of the line-up is ok by me too. Honestly, I'd start Caruso and play Westbrook as the 6th man. They may need to Bogans Westbrook for ego purposes, but most of the minutes with Demar should be Caruso. I think Westbrook alongside Coby, Green (when he comes back), DJJ and Drummond would be effective.

[DuckIII]

You guys saying the coach of the Bulls directly and overtly recruiting a player, during the season, who is under contract with another team are . . . incorrect.

Now, it might not even be true, or Utah gave permission, or no one will care because it’s a buyout scenario. But it’s definitely tampering if it’s true.

[DuckIII]

Any player who doesn't directly help with the fact that we are dead last in 3 point makes and attempts is a waste of time.

Only if you think we have a season to salvage, which we don’t.

[Red8911]

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Is this tampering??

Nah.

Russ is on a team that's about to buy him out. Tampering would be offering him a contract before becoming a free agent.

What is tampering anyway? Whilst Russ was on the Wizards, LeBron and AD went and 'had lunch' with Russ to recruit him to the Lakers, absolutely nothing came of that. Isn't this essentially the same thing but Russ is actually going to be able to make that decision rather than asking to be traded.

Technically it is tampering, Russ is currently on the roster of the Jazz. No one cares since we all know he’s leaving anyway but if the NBA or Jazz wanted to be dicks about it they can definitely fine Donovan along with the bulls and Paul George, Clippers.

[ChettheJet]

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Is this tampering??

Nah, tampering is talking to players before the official start of free agency. Free agency for this season started in July 2022. You can talk to any unsigned player right now. Heck you can ask Kirk Hinrich.

It's tampering because Westbrook is on the Jazz.

The only way it's not tampering is if Donovan or Westbrook's reps have received permission to talk to each other.

If anyone wants to declare that they are gullible enough to run and tell the league to investigate some vague claim by some blogger you go ahead. Since you're so into it, just who would Russell Westbrook's "people" be? His agent, wife, cousin, trainer, homeboys, crew? You must know who Billy would know to reach out to, (Hey very NYPD Blue throwback phrase to reference)

[Red8911]

Any player who doesn't directly help with the fact that we are dead last in 3 point makes and attempts is a waste of time.

Would of been nice if they can pick up Barton along with a PG (Russ or Bev) but I’m guessing they won’t be able to do that even if they wanted to.

[Tetlak]

Any player who doesn't directly help with the fact that we are dead last in 3 point makes and attempts is a waste of time.

Only if you think we have a season to salvage, which we don’t.

Depends on your definition of salvaging. Playing consistent, entertaining, playoff level ball is something that many of us can call a successful season. This is a game that we watch for entertainment, after all.

[Muzbar]

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Is this tampering??

Nah.

Russ is on a team that's about to buy him out. Tampering would be offering him a contract before becoming a free agent.

What is tampering anyway? Whilst Russ was on the Wizards, LeBron and AD went and 'had lunch' with Russ to recruit him to the Lakers, absolutely nothing came of that. Isn't this essentially the same thing but Russ is actually going to be able to make that decision rather than asking to be traded.

Technically it is tampering, Russ is currently on the roster of the Jazz. No one cares since we all know he’s leaving anyway but if the NBA or Jazz wanted to be dicks about it they can definitely fine Donovan along with the bulls and Paul George, Clippers.

But what LeBron and AD did for the Lakers isn't? Where's the line in the sand? This is the same same except Russ is going to be bought out and can sign with whatever team he wants.

For the record, I get that it actually is kinda technically tampering I just find it absurd that the Lakers got away with doing the same thing 2 years ago which was widely publised and it never gets talked about.

[Muzbar]

Any player who doesn't directly help with the fact that we are dead last in 3 point makes and attempts is a waste of time.

Would of been nice if they can pick up Barton along with a PG (Russ or Bev) but I’m guessing they won’t be able to do that even if they wanted to.

Ideally, the Bulls should have traded Tony Bradley into someone's capspace, allowing them to sign 2 buyouts without going into the tax.

But alas.

[SalmonsSuperfan]

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Is this tampering??

Nah.

Russ is on a team that's about to buy him out. Tampering would be offering him a contract before becoming a free agent.

What is tampering anyway? Whilst Russ was on the Wizards, LeBron and AD went and 'had lunch' with Russ to recruit him to the Lakers, absolutely nothing came of that. Isn't this essentially the same thing but Russ is actually going to be able to make that decision rather than asking to be traded.

Technically it is tampering, Russ is currently on the roster of the Jazz. No one cares since we all know he’s leaving anyway but if the NBA or Jazz wanted to be dicks about it they can definitely fine Donovan along with the bulls and Paul George, Clippers.

it's definitely tampering but the jazz would actually have to file a complaint and I really doubt they're trying to screw around Westbrook like that.

[Axl Rose]

But what LeBron and AD did for the Lakers isn't? Where's the line in the sand? This is the same same except Russ is going to be bought out and can sign with whatever team he wants.

For the record, I get that it actually is kinda technically tampering I just find it absurd that the Lakers got away with doing the same thing 2 years ago which was widely publised and it never gets talked about.

The line in the sand is that players are allowed to do it but not a GM, Coach, etc.

It's just the Bulls who keep being dumb about this.

[HomoSapien]

Nah, tampering is talking to players before the official start of free agency. Free agency for this season started in July 2022. You can talk to any unsigned player right now. Heck you can ask Kirk Hinrich.

It's tampering because Westbrook is on the Jazz.

The only way it's not tampering is if Donovan or Westbrook's reps have received permission to talk to each other.

If anyone wants to declare that they are gullible enough to run and tell the league to investigate some vague claim by some blogger you go ahead. Since you're so into it, just who would Russell Westbrook's "people" be? His agent, wife, cousin, trainer, homeboys, crew? You must know who Billy would know to reach out to, (Hey very NYPD Blue throwback phrase to reference)

What a weird reply. How am I "so into it"? It's just obviously wrong to argue it's not tampering assuming the Tweet is true that Donovan reached out to his reps.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Any player who doesn't directly help with the fact that we are dead last in 3 point makes and attempts is a waste of time.

Would of been nice if they can pick up Barton along with a PG (Russ or Bev) but I’m guessing they won’t be able to do that even if they wanted to.

Ideally, the Bulls should have traded Tony Bradley into someone's capspace, allowing them to sign 2 buyouts without going into the tax.

But alas.

Moving Bradley into space would've cost us a second rounder at minimum. A buyout guy isn’t worth that investment. Not for this team, not this season, esp when we have no second rounders until 2026 as it is.

[ChettheJet]

per the Woj story, Russell Westbrook is going to take his time deciding where to land for 25 games.

If he wants to really come to the Bulls or even use them as a bargaining chip, the way the Bulls are playing he better make his mind up sooner than later because they are close to not being an option for him

If the Bulls manage to lose the next 2 going into all star weekend there may be no point to adding RW or Wall or even DRose because there will be no saving the season or even looking like they're trying to save the season. No I don't see them tanking to #4 it's just that if they come out of the break on a 6 game losing streak and 8 under .500 Billy might as well let Zach and Demar cut their minutes, play Terry and turn The Paw loose to take over.

[Red8911]

Why is Westbrook taking so long to decide ? There’s not many games left, this has to happen quick if he even signs.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Why is Westbrook taking so long to decide ? There’s not many games left, this has to happen quick if he even signs.

It wouldn’t surprise me if he wanted to feel wanted. This might be his last NBA courtship.

[MrSparkle]

I don’t think Russ will happen, cause the Clippers are there. I think RW would love to eliminate LAL on the playoffs, if they get to that point.

But no second thought… he’d make the last 20 games more interesting. Might make everybody play harder, and he’s a streaky guy. Maybe everybody finds the net.

I just don’t know if it makes sense from an off-season perspective. We have 2 young guards to resign or trade, Pat going to his 4th year, a rookie who hasn’t played a lick, and some marginally better odds of keeping a pick if we lose.

So long-shot draft odds, better look at prospects, keeping Demar/Caruso/Zach healthy… or fighting an uphill battle to make the play-in, and possibly/probably lose in an embarrassing fashion, with 2/26 3P shooting?

I have no faith in this team beating anybody in the east anymore. AFAIC, the Magic, Raptors, Nets, Knicks, Hawks are all significantly better, with or without Westbrook.

The only teams we could made hold a 20 point lead into the 4th… are the Pistons, and possibly the Hornets. My 2c, I could see them ****ing the bed against Bogdanovic or Rozier.

We’re broken, and it’s a little late for solutions. Sitting Demar, Zach and Caruso sounds more appealing to me… honestly. I could even see that version of the Bulls come out with the same record as if the starters played.

[Wingy]

All this talk, and Russ might not even get bought out. Might be content to just chill and earn that enormous paycheck.

But let's pretend it happens. One team that I think would be a really interesting landing spot for him that I haven't seen mentioned is Brooklyn. Perfect, high-end role players - but closest thing to a 'star' creator is Dinwiddie! There's Cam Thomas, but from what I've read around RGM is that he's kinda a black hole. Russ + Spencer driving and kicking to all of their shooters could make for an interesting, and surprisingly unexpected, mild success story.

[GoBlue72391]

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Is this tampering??

Nah, tampering is talking to players before the official start of free agency. Free agency for this season started in July 2022. You can talk to any unsigned player right now. Heck you can ask Kirk Hinrich.

This is an incorrect definition of tampering and for the record, Russ isn't unsigned, he's a member of the Utah Jazz.