Post Game Thread: Tough Loss but it's just ONE L at the end

Post #321 » by **RedBulls23** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:27 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:I know we hate the Knicks, but at least be real with yourselves, Bulls fans.

WHich would be that Knicks are a solid team, but the if both teams are healthy Bulls are better. No ifs ands or buts!

Red Larrivee · Post #322 » by **Red Larrivee** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:29 pm

Rerisen wrote:What would you put our record at if we had Boozer and Noah all year?

I'm thinking between 20-10 and 22-8.

If we assume that we will be healthy come playoffs, knowing that answer is the more important measure of the team.

Who knows, hard to predict the butterfly effect.

But as it stands right now, neither the Bulls or Knicks are elite. Bot have close records and are clearly playoff teams. One specializes in defense, one in offense. I hate the Knicks too, but it's really not foolish to say they're in the same tier as us. I see the East right now as:

Elite
Heat
Celtics

On the cusp
Bulls
Magic
Knicks
Hawks

The Rest

rtblues · Post #323 » by **rtblues** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:29 pm

Final Thought:

The Knicks aren't good enough for me to hate....

Good night all, and Happy Holidays to all of you Bulls Fans!
&
Thanks to Mods for great year's work.

Red Larrivee · Post #324 » by **Red Larrivee** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:30 pm

Pong-Man83 wrote:WHich would be that Knicks are a solid team, but the if both teams are healthy Bulls are better. No ifs ands or buts!

I'm not saying the Bulls aren't a better team than the Knicks. I think we are. But that doesn't mean the Knicks aren't in the same level as us.

-They have an MVP candidate.
-A top-10 PG
-One of the most high powered offenses in the league.

Stop underestimating them.

Irregular · Post #325 » by **Irregular** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:31 pm

Start Ronnie Brewer!

JeremyB0001 · Post #326 » by **JeremyB0001** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:32 pm

I can't fathom how this game has helped convinced people that the Knicks are a quality team. The bulk of the Bulls bad play was unforced - poor free throw shooting, missed open three pointers, sloppy ball handling, and bad passes - yet with evenhanded officiating the game would have been very close in the final seconds.

Ndgt10 · Post #327 » by **Ndgt10** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:32 pm

Irregular wrote:Start Ronnie Brewer!

He struggles at foul shots.

Post #328 » by **Rerisen** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:32 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:but it's really not foolish to say they're in the same tier as us.

Depending how you draw your tiers, I can see that. But we're still higher within the tier, even then.

jl342323 · Post #329 » by **jl342323** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:36 pm

Rerisen wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:but it's really not foolish to say they're in the same tier as us.

Depending how you draw your tiers, I can see that. But we're still higher within the tier, even then.

i truly believe that we are one allstar caliber sg away from contending. can u say that about the knicks?

Post #330 » by **RedBulls23** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:36 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:
Pong-Man83 wrote:WHich would be that Knicks are a solid team, but the if both teams are healthy Bulls are better. No ifs ands or buts!

I'm not saying the Bulls aren't a better team than the Knicks. I think we are. But that doesn't mean the Knicks aren't in the same level as us.

-They have an MVP candidate.
-A top-10 PG
-One of the most high powered offenses in the league.

Stop underestimating them.

Whos underestimating them? Saying that they are on our level is saying that they are equal to us. No they are not. We are better!

When you keep saying that both teams are one piece away, that is just wrong. We are a SJax SG away from being a title contender.

If you add a SJax caliber player (not a SG just a equivalent player at any position) to the Knicks they would still be missing something to compete for a title. Now if they get Melo, then yes that would be different, but many teams become title contenders if they add a top 10 caliber player in the NBA.

Red Larrivee · Post #331 » by **Red Larrivee** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:37 pm

Rerisen wrote:But we're still higher within the tier, even then.

Whatever makes you sleep better. The Knicks are in the same tier either way. Nobody talks about the Bulls any differently than they do about the Knicks or Hawks for that matter.

LoveDaBoo · Post #332 » by **LoveDaBoo** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:39 pm

bruta1 wrote:well christmas is ruined, time to drink

This.

And FT's cost us another game. That's at least two now.

Finally, we ran another "layup miss" drill today. We miss more goddamn layups than any team since the NBA was formed.

Post #333 » by **RedBulls23** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:39 pm

jl342323 wrote:
Rerisen wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:but it's really not foolish to say they're in the same tier as us.

Depending how you draw your tiers, I can see that. But we're still higher within the tier, even then.

i truly believe that we are one allstar caliber sg away from contending. can u say that about the knicks?

The SG does not have to be all-star cliber. SJax would be perfect.

Red Larrivee · Post #334 » by **Red Larrivee** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:40 pm

Pong-Man83 wrote:Whos underestimating them? Saying that they are on our level is saying that they are equal to us. No they are not. We are better!

When you keep saying that both teams are one piece away, that is just wrong. We are a SJax SG away from being a title contender.

If you add a SJax caliber player (not a SG just a equivalent player at any position) to the Knicks they would still be missing something to compete for a title. Now if they get Melo, then yes that would be different, but many teams become title contenders if they add a top 10 caliber player in the NBA.

The Knicks have beat us twice. Not once, twice. Look, I'm not saying the Knicks are a better team. I'm saying they are on our level, and they clearly are. We have not blown them out, we have not outplayed them convincingly, we haven't done **** against them. We lost, twice.

Post #335 » by **Rerisen** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:40 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:
Rerisen wrote:But we're still higher within the tier, even then.

Whatever makes you sleep better. The Knicks are in the same tier either way. Nobody talks about the Bulls any differently than they do about the Knicks or Hawks for that matter.

You seem really down on the Bulls to me.

This team has put up a very impressive record with having Boozer out all those games, having one of the toughest schedules and now missing Noah.

We haven't even had time to gel as a team with all our pieces, nor fully integrate Thibs defense to where everyone knows what to do.

If we took Bogans out of the starting lineup, I think that would be a couple more wins instantly by the end of the year.

Our schedule is pretty soft for a long while, the Bulls are going to get stronger as they go. It might not show greatly in the record till Noah comes back, but the Bulls are a top 4 team in the Conference. Everyone else is below that.

The Bulls are the only team I see with a legit chance to upset Boston/Miami/Orlando. Not saying its likely, but I can't see any other single team having much of a shot even.

BJ43 · Post #336 » by **BJ43** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:41 pm

The ROY wrote:Best part about this, it seems to me both teams are renewing the rivalry to an extent and thats wonderful IMO.

Nice hard fouling Amare...the league is boring...

NY vs Chi is good for sports in general...

BTW....stop acting like girls and whining because another teams fans talk trash. MODs MODS please BAN THEM! LOL It's all in good fun man..its just sports...that dude BJ's posts are reading like he's crying behind the monitor. Dude made numerous threats in the game thread..thats ok?

Anyway....Bulls had a pretty bad game...The Knicks are clearly the more athletic team....Pringles system is lethal when he has the right players..

Im praying we meet them in the first round...What a wonderful series it would be..

Landry Fields is nice...today was my first time really seeing him.

Brewer shoulda dunked that ****. Blowing a wide open gimmie...in MSG...on Christmas? Embarrassing.

Hope everyone here contines to have a blessed day.

Happy B-day Jesus

Man shut up, I'm allowed to be pissed off, no one is crying, I just hate the Knicks more than you'll ever understand and I've had no sleep and I'm angry, so I don't feel like being reasonable or mature right now

Red Larrivee · Post #337 » by **Red Larrivee** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:42 pm

I'm not down on the Bulls at all. I love our team. We're 18-10 and likely going to win our first Central Division title since 1998.

All I'm pointing out is that the Knicks are on the same level as us. Whatever excuses you want to use to put that into perspective is fine. But at this very moment, how can you say otherwise?

BJ43 · Post #338 » by **BJ43** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:42 pm

EnigmatiC wrote:
BJ43 wrote:
EnigmatiC wrote:lol this thread is awesome...my Jets are coming in tomorrow to finish the job :lol:. Merry Christmas to all!

Is this code for something you and your boyfriends have planned for tomorrow?

nope its code for saying NY is about to take a big dump on the second city

So you're going to make out with a bunch of guys and then have them take a dump on you? Seriously keep that **** *literally* to yourself

Post #339 » by **RedBulls23** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:42 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:
Pong-Man83 wrote:Whos underestimating them? Saying that they are on our level is saying that they are equal to us. No they are not. We are better!

When you keep saying that both teams are one piece away, that is just wrong. We are a SJax SG away from being a title contender.

If you add a SJax caliber player (not a SG just a equivalent player at any position) to the Knicks they would still be missing something to compete for a title. Now if they get Melo, then yes that would be different, but many teams become title contenders if they add a top 10 caliber player in the NBA.

The Knicks have beat us twice. Not once, twice. Look, I'm not saying the Knicks are a better team. I'm saying they are on our level, and they clearly are. We have not blown them out, we have not outplayed them convincingly, we haven't done **** against them. We lost, twice.

Hooray they beat us twice without our top 3 center and top 5 PF!!! Good for them. Let's keep ignoring those facts.

jl342323 · Post #340 » by **jl342323** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:43 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:
Pong-Man83 wrote:Whos underestimating them? Saying that they are on our level is saying that they are equal to us. No they are not. We are better!

When you keep saying that both teams are one piece away, that is just wrong. We are a SJax SG away from being a title contender.

If you add a SJax caliber player (not a SG just a equivalent player at any position) to the Knicks they would still be missing something to compete for a title. Now if they get Melo, then yes that would be different, but many teams become title contenders if they add a top 10 caliber player in the NBA.

The Knicks have beat us twice. Not once, twice. Look, I'm not saying the Knicks are a better team. I'm saying they are on our level, and they clearly are. We have not blown them out, we have not outplayed them convincingly, we haven't done **** against them. We lost, twice.

lakers lost to clippers twice last year.