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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#321 » by Ben Wilson25 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:42 am

Big men usually take longer to develop. To be one of the youngest kids in this class and as skilled as he is at that size, Carter either has a great work ethic, a great natural feel for the game or both. We’ll see if his athleticism is good enough to make it matter in the NBA but work ethic and feel/IQ are what separate stars from role players.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#322 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:42 am

TheJordanRule wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:He needs to slim down, grow 2 inches, and jump higher. PJ Brown best case scenario. Sigh.


**** you. PJ was just a rebounding and put back specialist. He had a 9.4 PPG career average. You don't get this pick at all.


Go cry about it
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#323 » by mschmidt64 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:44 am

CjayC wrote:Good luck to him, but this is the ultimate meh pick.

I guess they're throwing their hand in for next years Wings.


We should tank again, frankly.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#324 » by GimmeDat » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:45 am

It's not sexy, but I'm optimistic. Carter is young, super talented, smart and is conducive to winning. If the price was too steep to move up, this was the right move. Shows they know the value of next draft as well.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#325 » by Chitownbulls » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:45 am

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Chitownbulls wrote:I'm not even sure how much better Wendell Carter is than Robin Lopez

GarPax building a team for the 90s


What center from the 90s was hitting 3s at 41%? Its like some of you arent even trying.


NBA teams are getting smaller an more versatile an the Bulls go with 2 bigs. When Free agency is LOADED with bigs.

Bulls added depth an no star in this draft
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#326 » by RastaBull » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:46 am

Carter is a center I can def get excited about. I think he straddles a good line of old-school skills with new wave flexability. He is athletic enough to handle some of the new tendencies, think he can move below the basket in a spacing offense, and threaten enogh you have to guard him on perimeter or pick and pops. But he's got the tools and instincts to develop great 90s style defense and work on the boards.

If Portis is going to be around, I like that I can envision Carter + Lauri .... Carter + Portis ... Carter + small ball lineup ... Lauri + small ball lineup.

I was concerned he wasn't enough a home run pick ... but I'm really excited to see him over the next three years. Rooting for him, and relaly think he's in a situation where he can excel into a upper echelon center in his league. He's got a frontcourt pairing that will take pressure off, and offensive system that will allow him to stat pad (rebounding with spacing and 3P shooting, get some easy buckets with ball moving quickly), and a really good veteran leader in Lopez at least for first half of season.

Would love to know if there is an assistant y'all think will work with him primarily (or if we could bring in someone to focus on it)
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#327 » by bullsnewdynasty » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:46 am

I think this pick makes it inevitable that next season is a tank year as well. Carter is a nice piece but he's not moving the needle for you in the short term as a 19 year old. Hopefully the Bulls will put themselves in a position to tank properly and grab a top 3 pick next year.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#328 » by Jcool0 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:47 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:He needs to slim down, grow 2 inches, and jump higher. PJ Brown best case scenario. Sigh.


You misspelled LaMarcus Aldridge


Not even close. LA is a legit 6-11/7 footer with an elite jump shot


Sounds close to me & WAY better then your PJ Brown comparison.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#329 » by Chitownbulls » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:47 am

mschmidt64 wrote:Hate it. We went through that entire season with the goal of getting a star running mate for Markkanen and it was a complete failure. We got nothing of significant value for Mirotic cause the Pels screwed us, that pick should have been 14-16 (and thus a flier on Porter) when the Pels should have missed the playoffs.

The Bulls should have stripped down way, way earlier than they did and lost 3-4 more games, in which case they would have been picking third or fourth, and Doncic, JJJ or Bamba would have been ours outright like should have been.

Carter is Luol Deng, Joakim Noah, Carlos Boozer all over again. Good player, just good enough to be part of a team that will forever be a first or second round playoff exit.

Congratulations Garpax, Reinsdorf, and the Bulls. You have officially proven you have zero concern to, or zero ability to, build a real contender. Boston, Miami, the Spurs, the Lakers, the Sixers, all these teams have proven they know how to get creative and/or take the necessary steps to get better, even when it means getting worse first. The Bulls should have the resources to be in that conversation, they are a big and intriguing enough market.

Instead they probably refused to put Portis and/or 22 on the table in trade up discussions because they would have had to replace Portis and 22 with veteran salaries which would probably be more expensive. They want cheap assets more than anything else and their ridiculous cheap approach to scouting the draft is demonstrative of it.


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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#330 » by RememberLu » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:48 am

Chitownbulls wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
Chitownbulls wrote:I'm not even sure how much better Wendell Carter is than Robin Lopez

GarPax building a team for the 90s


What center from the 90s was hitting 3s at 41%? Its like some of you arent even trying.


NBA teams are getting smaller an more versatile an the Bulls go with 2 bigs. When Free agency is LOADED with bigs.

Bulls added depth an no star in this draft


WCJ is versatile. He's a jack of all trades. He can pass, he can play in the post, he rebounds, he can block shots, he can shoot the three. He fits the modern game well. This is a big-heavy draft so I don't get the complaining about taking a big. They took the BPA who happened to be a big.
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Post#331 » by Chitownbulls » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:48 am

Wendell Carter Jr looks like a mix of Al Horford /Vin Baker, & Elton Brand
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#332 » by TheJordanRule » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:49 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
TheJordanRule wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:He needs to slim down, grow 2 inches, and jump higher. PJ Brown best case scenario. Sigh.


**** you. PJ was just a rebounding and put back specialist. He had a 9.4 PPG career average. You don't get this pick at all.


Go cry about it


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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#333 » by Chitownbulls » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:51 am

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Chitownbulls wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
What center from the 90s was hitting 3s at 41%? Its like some of you arent even trying.


NBA teams are getting smaller an more versatile an the Bulls go with 2 bigs. When Free agency is LOADED with bigs.

Bulls added depth an no star in this draft


WCJ is versatile. He's a jack of all trades. He can pass, he can play in the post, he rebounds, he can block shots, he can shoot the three. He fits the modern game well. This is a big-heavy draft so I don't get the complaining about taking a big. They took the BPA who happened to be a big.


We got 41mil in cap space an the bigs are loaded in free agency. None of them are options now.


Who will we spend this money on? Portis? LaVine? Wilson Chandler? Will Barton?
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#334 » by League Circles » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:52 am

bullsnewdynasty wrote:I think this pick makes it inevitable that next season is a tank year as well. Carter is a nice piece but he's not moving the needle for you in the short term as a 19 year old. Hopefully the Bulls will put themselves in a position to tank properly and grab a top 3 pick next year.

Even the worst team in the league is most likely to pick 4th. Tanking is done. The math just doesn't work anymore with the new odds.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#335 » by Jcool0 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:52 am

Chitownbulls wrote:
RememberLu wrote:
Chitownbulls wrote:
NBA teams are getting smaller an more versatile an the Bulls go with 2 bigs. When Free agency is LOADED with bigs.

Bulls added depth an no star in this draft


WCJ is versatile. He's a jack of all trades. He can pass, he can play in the post, he rebounds, he can block shots, he can shoot the three. He fits the modern game well. This is a big-heavy draft so I don't get the complaining about taking a big. They took the BPA who happened to be a big.


We got 41mil in cap space an the bigs are loaded in free agency. None of them are options now.


Who will we spend this money on now? Portis? LaVine? Wilson Chandler? Will Barton?


Why would the Bulls be spending any money in free agency? This is year 2 of a rebuild.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#336 » by RememberLu » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:53 am

Chitownbulls wrote:
RememberLu wrote:
Chitownbulls wrote:
NBA teams are getting smaller an more versatile an the Bulls go with 2 bigs. When Free agency is LOADED with bigs.

Bulls added depth an no star in this draft


WCJ is versatile. He's a jack of all trades. He can pass, he can play in the post, he rebounds, he can block shots, he can shoot the three. He fits the modern game well. This is a big-heavy draft so I don't get the complaining about taking a big. They took the BPA who happened to be a big.


We got 41mil in cap space an the bigs are loaded in free agency. None of them are options now.


Who will we spend this money on? Portis? LaVine? Wilson Chandler? Will Barton?


They like LaVine, so yes they're going to spend it on LaVine. We're building a very young, athletic team full of players that can shoot the lights out of the 3. If Dunn keeps improving we're going to be fun to watch.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#337 » by League Circles » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:54 am

Chitownbulls wrote:
RememberLu wrote:
Chitownbulls wrote:
NBA teams are getting smaller an more versatile an the Bulls go with 2 bigs. When Free agency is LOADED with bigs.

Bulls added depth an no star in this draft


WCJ is versatile. He's a jack of all trades. He can pass, he can play in the post, he rebounds, he can block shots, he can shoot the three. He fits the modern game well. This is a big-heavy draft so I don't get the complaining about taking a big. They took the BPA who happened to be a big.


We got 41mil in cap space an the bigs are loaded in free agency. None of them are options now.


Who will we spend this money on? Portis? LaVine? Wilson Chandler? Will Barton?

Who are these bigs you speak of in the loaded free agency class?

Achilles Cousins?
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Post#338 » by Mbrahv0528 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:55 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
TheJordanRule wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:He needs to slim down, grow 2 inches, and jump higher. PJ Brown best case scenario. Sigh.


**** you. PJ was just a rebounding and put back specialist. He had a 9.4 PPG career average. You don't get this pick at all.


Go cry about it
Lol what? You're complaining an AWFUL lot here to be telling someone else to go cry. I think you need to take a deep breath and relax.

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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#339 » by mschmidt64 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:55 am

TeamMan wrote:Just went back and looked at some WCJ highlights and he is just simply not an NBA center, he is a PF.

But IMO he is not as good as either Mirotic or Portis.

IMO it also appears that this was all done to set up the Chandler Hutchinson pick. He is actually the guy that Gar/Pax want to take over the SF spot and they didn't want any competition.

Last, IMO they now have to try to trade Portis for a center.


Wouldn't shock me since they so clearly had blinders on for Hutchinson way, way, way in advance of the draft.

Having that kind of tunnel vision is inexcusable for a GM. You pick 22nd, you have no idea what other kind of opportunities might arise, and they clearly just tuned out all of them. Made a promise to the guy weeks in advance, and for fricking what?

If this guy isn't Jimmy Butler part 2, I'd fire the entire front office on principle.
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Re: Bulls select Wendell Carter Jr 7th overall 

Post#340 » by Jcool0 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:57 am

mschmidt64 wrote:
TeamMan wrote:Just went back and looked at some WCJ highlights and he is just simply not an NBA center, he is a PF.

But IMO he is not as good as either Mirotic or Portis.

IMO it also appears that this was all done to set up the Chandler Hutchinson pick. He is actually the guy that Gar/Pax want to take over the SF spot and they didn't want any competition.

Last, IMO they now have to try to trade Portis for a center.


Wouldn't shock me since they so clearly had blinders on for Hutchinson way, way, way in advance of the draft.

Having that kind of tunnel vision is inexcusable for a GM. You pick 22nd, you have no idea what other kind of opportunities might arise, and they clearly just tuned out all of them. Made a promise to the guy weeks in advance, and for fricking what?

If this guy isn't Jimmy Butler part 2, I'd fire the entire front office on principle.


Clearly you are letting a preconceived bias come into play here.

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