Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed

[Rose2Boozer]

What is your take on Justin Holiday's availability? The Raptors need a bench SF better than CJ Miles, and his name was brought up. It seems like he might not be in your future plans. Is there any trade you think would be do-able on the Raptors' side?

Wright and Richardson for Holiday?

I think Wright is a interesting prospect that could potentially do more on another team.

[Bulls Fan 23]

I would do the trade

[PrimzyBulls81]

What is your take on Justin Holiday's availability? The Raptors need a bench SF better than CJ Miles, and his name was brought up. It seems like he might not be in your future plans. Is there any trade you think would be do-able on the Raptors' side?

Wright and Richardson for Holiday?

I think Wright is a interesting prospect that could potentially do more on another team.

They have Anunoby and Powell for SF too,even Richardson.. I dont think they are in need for SF,also Danny Green can play there.
Maybe they need Parker for PF spot,but also again Anunoby can play PF too LOL

[MGB8]

Here's a 3-way with Fultz that would meet Philadelphia's reported wants and I think works for all teams (and works on trade machine):

Chicago sends Justin Holiday to the Sixers and Bobby Portis to the Rockets. The Rockets send Marquees Chriss and a 1st round pick to Philadelphia (not sure if it would be this year's) - I think it would be worth it for the Rockets to add Portis, who fits what they want from a reserve offensive big. The Sixers send Fultz back to the Bulls.

It's a huge gamble for the Bulls - Fultz's Thoracic Outlet Syndrome may mean that he's done in the NBA. Or he could recover and be the guy that was worth the #1 overall pick - a guy who has shown everything you want in a modern PGs game in the NBA... with the exception of a shot that he (not less mysteriously) lost. Not sure that it would be worth the gamble, but Holiday isn't in the team's longer term-plans and his role in the "insurrection" is troubling, and if Portis is not in the long term plans (and I'm not sure he is - I think at best it's a LaVine type situation where they let him get an offer from another team and have a limit in their mind as to how much they will match....).

As for sending Jabari to Utah, I think this is a replay of last year where the Jazz don't want to send picks out (how much better would they be if they had send out Joe Johnson and a top 10 protected first to the Bulls for Niko... Niko, next to Gobert, vs. Grayson Allen.... idiots...). So Utah would have to figure out a 3 way deal for someone who wants Favors and will send a late first (and expiring or near expiring) salary to Chicago for him.

That said, I could see a team like the Suns being interested - Favors as a veteran influence on Ayton, etc. And Phoenix has an extra (protected, future) first rounder from the Bucks to send out - but they'd have a hard time getting salaries to match (other than Ryan Anderson who has 15.6M on the books next year - which wouldn't be terrible except that the Bucks pick is unlikely to convey until 2020 given the 1-3/17-30 protection on 2019, so not all that desirable - and it's going to be a late round pick in 2020, too).

Houston again could get into the mix getting Favors in return for Brandon Knight (to the Bulls) and a late first sent to Chicago. That looks like it would work. So Parker to Utah, Favors to Houston, and Knight and a 1st to Chicago. Of course, that would mean the first trade I suggested wouldn't be happening.

Sacramento might take Favors in return for Z-Bo and Koufos - they save some money and Favors is a fairly big upgrade over Koufos' part time play (and Z-Bo's non-playing). But they don't really have future firsts to send out.

[Ccwatercraft]

really don't get the desire to let serviceable players go for non serviceable ones. I get that there is potential upside if a broken player becomes unbroken but personally I'd rather pay Portis 10+ than have to pay Fultz 10. Like it or not Portis is a better player.

I also like Holiday, don't care about his age TBH, hes not over the hill and you can't have your entire team in their early 20's and expect positive results. Lopez I understand, and Holiday to some degree if we have no intentions of resigning him, but the lack of love for portis I just don't get.

[Teal25]

Parker and Felicio for Batum and our 1st.

[Nate3carp]

Parker and Felicio for Batum and our 1st.

With the amount of money left on Batum's deal, it would have to be an unprotected pick for me to think about. And even then, I'm not sure if i could swallow 2 more years of punting free agency (we'd still have about $15mil in cap space this summer, but not the $40 we're expecting to have).

[Chi town]

Parker and Felicio for Batum and our 1st.

With the amount of money left on Batum's deal, it would have to be an unprotected pick for me to think about. And even then, I'm not sure if i could swallow 2 more years of punting free agency (we'd still have about $15mil in cap space this summer, but not the $40 we're expecting to have).

We would resign Portis and Holiday and then have very little the following season as Dunn’s extension is needed.

[Chi town]

What about Chuck for Z Smith of PHI?

He doesn’t play till end of season and it helps the tank. Hutch gets big mins to figure things out.

[dumbell78]

really don't get the desire to let serviceable players go for non serviceable ones. I get that there is potential upside if a broken player becomes unbroken but personally I'd rather pay Portis 10+ than have to pay Fultz 10. Like it or not Portis is a better player.

I also like Holiday, don't care about his age TBH, hes not over the hill and you can't have your entire team in their early 20's and expect positive results. Lopez I understand, and Holiday to some degree if we have no intentions of resigning him, but the lack of love for portis I just don't get.

Bulls wanted to pay him around 11 mil and he said no. Just takes one team to make an offer and now the FO is in a tough spot. How much more are you willing to pay him coming off the bench? Is it worth it down the line? Say 14 mil per for a guy giving you 24-28 minutes off the bench?

These are the real issues, its not really about Bobby in a vacuum.

[RastaBull]

I'm curious what it would look like if we didn't trade anyone and just let them walk. I know that's not wise, but just for talk sake, what if we don't take on any extra salary for extra picks and go into summer with boatload of money and stripped down of the extra players

Carter / ?
Lauri / ?
? / Hutch / Val
Lavine / Val
Dunn / ?

Thinking of Vall as a perimeter shooter at either position. Dunn could be starter or could bring in a starter. That is our guarantees next year (and Felicio but he doesn't deserve to be on depth even if his salary counts). That ~54 mil ... so 55 in cap space. Plus a lotto pick. You can max someone and bring Portis at a decent price.

Granted, we aren't going to max someone of value because no one will want to come here.

But I'm not even thinking of that as much. I'm more looking where we have open roster needs and thinking what incredible personality/experience/respected vets can we bring in? An old-school back up PG? Would love a Kurt Thomas/Nazr/Miller esque back center? If we spent maybe a starting strong vet at center (not spending max on mid-level guy though).

Lopez might be best big for that vet purpose. I liked how fierce he was the other day. He's been around these kids for two years now. (Hypothetically, if year ends on a positive note and we see the team chemistry jiving, Lopez wouldn't be bad and I'd even go maybe 8mil?

Who is a nice back-up level savvy vet PG that you think brings some good locker room presence for these guys? Preferably a winner.
Edit: someone I've always like is Pat Beverly. Chi-town product, 3-D. Puts in a lot of fight. Likely not getting offer from Clips if they go after Kawhi/KD. We could offer him a nice chunk of change. If Boylen stays, Bev is a Boylen type guy. Can play both on and off ball, defend both guard spots.

What about at SF. I'm thinking we probably try to draft there too. I was thinking of Rudy Gay as a stop gap, comes from the Spurs environment, plays his butt of out there and does lots of small things. Seems like a good/fun teammate.

[dougthonus]

Pelicans are said to be in the market for a SF, how about something like Felicio + Holiday for Solomon Hill + a scrub to balance roster spots / salary. Bulls get out of Felicio's deal one year earlier, Hill looks like he mostly is out of the rotation for the Pelicans and has 13 mil on the books next year. Chicago loses 5 mil on the cap next year to gain 8 the year after, but given current performance it feels unlikely the Bulls would get anyone good this season, so better to kick the can down the road IMO.

[HomoSapien]

Pelicans are said to be in the market for a SF, how about something like Felicio + Holiday for Solomon Hill + a scrub to balance roster spots / salary. Bulls get out of Felicio's deal one year earlier, Hill looks like he mostly is out of the rotation for the Pelicans and has 13 mil on the books next year. Chicago loses 5 mil on the cap next year to gain 8 the year after, but given current performance it feels unlikely the Bulls would get anyone good this season, so better to kick the can down the road IMO.

I was just coming in to post this exact trade idea, although I'd request a 1st. NO has had good luck with former Bulls players and Holiday would be a huge addition for them.

[navdeep_singh]

With (1) LeBron saying how incredible it would be to add AD; (2) AD and LeBron represented by the same agent; (3) Lakers saving their assets and picks to make that obvious trade—-going forward, any Bulls proposal for getting AD to Chicago should be outright as laughed at as was any possibility of LeBron joining the Bulls at any point in the past.

Until things change around here with the management, “Carlos Boozered” will be an action verb, as far as the Chicago Bulls are concerned.

[KirkHinrich]

Portis, Holliday, and Payne to Philly for Fultz and Korkmaz.

Philly needs depth and shooting and Portis and Holliday are perfect fits. I actually think Portis would be a great player in the playoffs, capable of giving some scoring off the bench. Payne gives them point guard depth. All expiring deals as well so that fits with their plan to keep space.

As for the Bulls, I would love to take on Fultz. I think the best situation for him to get right is with a bad team like us where the spotlight isn't on him. Would much rather have Fultz than a heavily protected pick. Now I have no faith that our clown show organization is the one that will maximize his potential but if I were the Bulls I would take the risk.

I like Korkmaz as well, he is 6'7" and projects as a decent 3 point shooter. You can never have enough shooting and size at the wing.

[RastaBull]

Baynes is a back-up, rugged and tested center I would look at in Free Agency if he's doesn't take the player option next year. Two years guaranteed? Maybe a second year player option. right now his player option for Boston is 5 mil. Give him 7? (Depends obviously on how continues this year, and that injury to his hand ... but he's the type of hard-nosed vet, winning experience, that I'd want behind Carter).

[dougthonus]

Pelicans are said to be in the market for a SF, how about something like Felicio + Holiday for Solomon Hill + a scrub to balance roster spots / salary. Bulls get out of Felicio's deal one year earlier, Hill looks like he mostly is out of the rotation for the Pelicans and has 13 mil on the books next year. Chicago loses 5 mil on the cap next year to gain 8 the year after, but given current performance it feels unlikely the Bulls would get anyone good this season, so better to kick the can down the road IMO.

I was just coming in to post this exact trade idea, although I'd request a 1st. NO has had good luck with former Bulls players and Holiday would be a huge addition for them.

Doubt Holiday is worth a 1st, but maybe a 2nd, but since the Bulls don't value 2nds, I figured I'd look to dump Felicio's deal.

[HoopsterJones]

Trade Holiday to the Kings. Wonder if we can get anything of decent value back. Maybe 2 2nd round picks?

[sco]

Trade Holiday to the Kings. Wonder if we can get anything of decent value back. Maybe 2 2nd round picks?

The deal to do with Sacto is Holiday/Shrek for Koufos.

[HoopsterJones]

Trade Holiday to the Kings. Wonder if we can get anything of decent value back. Maybe 2 2nd round picks?

The deal to do with Sacto is Holiday/Shrek for Koufos.

Man I would love to get something of value back. Wonder if they would like Lopez too.