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Post#321 » by jStuNNa » Thu Sep 2, 2021 7:45 pm

I'm really starting to warm up to the idea of DJ Wilson being the guy. He has legit PF size at 6'10" with a 7'3" wingspan. He brings a lot of energy... Runs the floor... Has a lot of bounce. He's quick enough to switch on to perimeter players. In fact, I believe Houston played him at SF a little bit last season. He has a respectable three-point shot. Young, but been around a few years now.



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Post#322 » by HomoSapien » Thu Sep 2, 2021 8:00 pm

I have to imagine that this gets sorted out quickly now that Milsap is gone. They have their list and the guys who are remaining likely are anxious to sign somewhere.
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Post#323 » by sco » Thu Sep 2, 2021 8:08 pm

My order at the moment:
Aldridge
Jordan
Hartenstein
Vanderbilt
Vonleh
Bell

Maybe two of them and get 1 offense/1 defense.
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Post#324 » by bulls_4_life » Thu Sep 2, 2021 8:12 pm

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holv03 wrote:Why are we discussing DJJ at the 4? Let's stop this non sense. Bulls are looking for a true big not another wing to fill out the pf position.

DJJ has played PF and C in recent seasons and he will play PF and C for us. You might not like it, but it's going to happen, so you'll have to accept it eventually.

This is the new normal. This isn't 2010 anymore. Traditional height/weight requirements for positions are an antiquated thing of the past and are no longer relevant in today's game. There's a reason this era is so commonly referred to as "positionless basketball." As the years go by, the game grows and evolves.

I personally cannot understand how anyone who watches basketball on a regular basis, and has done so for the past 3+ years, can have such a difficult time grasping this. What do they think they're watching? The majority of the time teams are playing small-ball with 1 PG, 3 wings and 1 big. Most modern PFs are 6'6"-6'8" SFs playing out of position. How can anyone who watches NBA basketball on a regular basis not be aware of this??? Are they not actually watching games???

Sorry for the rant. That wasn't directed at you personally, I've just seen a surprising amount of purported NBA fans who are stuck in this outdated mindset and balk at the idea of anyone under 6'9" playing PF and bizarrely try to deny that it happens by providing things like Basketball-Reference's positional estimates as "proof" that they play SG/SF rather than PF/C.

Look at P.J. Tucker's positional estimates on B-R. Everyone and their mother knows he's a PF/C, yet B-R says he's a SF/PF/SG/C in that order... https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/tuckepj01.html

The amount of pushback and outright denial of this is just very, very confusing to me.


But who's gonna defend Karl Malone?? Oh wait, what decade are we in? :lol:

I agree with you that we're fine at the 1-4 using some/any of these wing guys we've acquired. But I also agree that we need some size - not to play the 4, but rather the 5. Maybe it's a lasting impression from the Wendell Carter experience last year where he was way too undersized to guard centers. I just don't want Tony Bradley to be our only center option if Vooch has to miss some time...


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Post#325 » by Andi Obst » Thu Sep 2, 2021 8:35 pm

No to the group of washed vets who can only play center and don’t defend (Jordan, Aldridge and Cousins).

Man, Millsap would’ve been such a nice fit.
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Post#326 » by LateNight » Thu Sep 2, 2021 8:47 pm

Small ball is great - we have a small ball lineup. But why would you lock yourself into only being able to play that way? It might be nice to have the option of playing a guy with size at the PF spot
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Post#327 » by jStuNNa » Thu Sep 2, 2021 8:51 pm

LateNight wrote:Small ball is great - we have a small ball lineup. But why would you lock yourself into only being able to play that way? It might be nice to have the option of playing a guy with size at the PF spot


Obviously the FO doesn't want to lock themselves into playing small or they wouldn't have went after Milsap.

They missed and probably have a backup plan. Just gotta let it play out.
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Post#328 » by Red8911 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 9:05 pm

sco wrote:My order at the moment:
Aldridge
Jordan
Hartenstein
Vanderbilt
Vonleh
Bell

Maybe two of them and get 1 offense/1 defense.

I like Deandre Jordan even though he’s not the same player he once was. He would provide some much needed defense,toughness, and experience to back up Vuc. I wouldn’t mind Biyombo too if he’s still available.
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Post#329 » by MGB8 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 9:06 pm

jStuNNa wrote:I'm really starting to warm up to the idea of DJ Wilson being the guy. He has legit PF size at 6'10" with a 7'3" wingspan. He brings a lot of energy... Runs the floor... Has a lot of bounce. He's quick enough to switch on to perimeter players. In fact, I believe Houston played him at SF a little bit last season. He has a respectable three-point shot. Young, but been around a few years now.






I agree. Outside of Vanderbilt, he's likely the best option remaining. He's not where he needs to be in terms of his instincts, particularly on the defensive end - but it's not like he's had really good developmental coaching (Budenholzer is solid at x and os, but doesn't have a big track record developing guys; while Houston was a mess last season). Plus, some guys need more time to "get it" (and some never do).

Still, he has all the skill-sets needed, along with the size and athleticism, and some track record - a good guy to take a risk on.
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Post#330 » by RoseTheFuture22 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 9:28 pm

Little Nathan wrote:No to the group of washed vets who can only play center and don’t defend (Jordan, Aldridge and Cousins).

Man, Millsap would’ve been such a nice fit.

1000% this. The biggest problem of the previous regime at the end was we would sign too many guys who could only play 1 position or were too skewed 1 way offensively or defensively. Need to continue to add versatility to the roster
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Post#331 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 9:31 pm

Now its between Vanderbilt, Vonleh, Patterson and Wilson probably.. My first choice would be Vanderbilt
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Post#332 » by Tetlak » Thu Sep 2, 2021 9:44 pm

Couldn't care less who we sign now. None of the remaining options will play over what we already have I'd think.
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Post#333 » by Bulls Fan 23 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 10:37 pm

PrimzyBulls81 wrote:Now its between Vanderbilt, Vonleh, Patterson and Wilson probably.. My first choice would be Vanderbilt


If we don't have to give up any assets, I'll take Vanderbilt, otherwise give me Vonleh and Wilson.
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Post#334 » by Bulls Fan 23 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 10:58 pm

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PrimzyBulls81 wrote:Now its between Vanderbilt, Vonleh, Patterson and Wilson probably.. My first choice would be Vanderbilt


If we don't have to give up any assets, I'll take Vanderbilt, otherwise give me Vonleh and Wilson.


Hartenstein would be fourth on my list.
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Post#335 » by greenwing » Thu Sep 2, 2021 11:15 pm

If I’m the Bulls and LaMarcus Aldridge ends up in Brooklyn then I would go with signing a vet who can help in the playoffs and a young with potential. Looking at what is out there at the moment I would try to get DeAndre Jordan (vet) and Isaiah Hartenstein (young guy). If not Jordan then the Bulls should look at an older guard who can help develop our you guys and rally the troops in the locker room.
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Post#336 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Sep 3, 2021 12:40 am

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League Circles wrote:This is getting ridiculous. We are absurdly unprepared at the 4 position and options will continue to decrease as the days pass by. We need 2 fours. For us to not even have one of them signed immediately upon Millsap agreeing with Brooklyn is unacceptable. I don't really care if the results end up being good, it's patently absurd to rely solely on teenage SF Patrick Williams as our 4. And I don't wanna hear how Derozan can play there, even if true, because he'll be starting at SF, and because both he and Vuc are soft defenders, so we NEED a strong athletic defender at the 4.


It is actually pathetic. I have no idea what they are thinking.


What if missing out on Milsap is tied to the tampering investigation? Its possible that AKME wanted to (or was told to) wait until the tampering penalties were solidified before they made a concrete offer to Milsap.

Either way is sucks that we didn't get him. He would have made up for the loss of Thad.


I couldn’t care less about Millsap. I want a legit PF with size. We don’t have a single one on the roster and pickings are slim. I seriously a tampering investigation is going to affect our salary cap situation for next season.
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Post#337 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Sep 3, 2021 12:41 am

greenwing wrote:If I’m the Bulls and LaMarcus Aldridge ends up in Brooklyn then I would go with signing a vet who can help in the playoffs and a young with potential. Looking at what is out there at the moment I would try to get DeAndre Jordan (vet) and Isaiah Hartenstein (young guy). If not Jordan then the Bulls should look at an older guard who can help develop our you guys and rally the troops in the locker room.


We already have a backup center so what would Jordan do for us? That doesn’t fix the hole at PF.
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Re: Bulls Remaining Roster Spot Discussion 

Post#338 » by MGB » Fri Sep 3, 2021 1:11 am

Would Gary Clark interest you at all?
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Post#339 » by brentmoney » Fri Sep 3, 2021 1:31 am

I understood the rationale behind surrounding zach with ball handlers, but I would have preferred keeping theis to signing caruso. the contracts are pretty similar.

I'm excited for this season but like, what the hell are we going to do if vucevic sustains a serious injury?
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Post#340 » by MGB8 » Fri Sep 3, 2021 1:36 am

MGB wrote:Would Gary Clark interest you at all?


Not really. No size, and without either a proven record or youth/upside.

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