PG: Can't stop, won't stop

[Hangtime84]

I’m gonna need nba teams to game plan better and beat us

[ArizonaBullsFan]

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I think Dunn was saying that to the tank driver.

I think he saw 4 or 5 RealGM Bulls posters in the audience, that would explain the at least 4 "F HIM"s...

[bulls4ever]

my prediction we will make the playoffs, shock the world and win the title

[madvillian]

There's an Al Swearengen quote about women and the moon that describes how hard this one is gonna be.

Well, it was happening when we were 3-20. The biggest difference in the last 4 games has been Mirotic playing like a **** Monstar.

Like I said, there's a lot of unsustainability involved in this 4 game win streak. Portis isn't shooting 60% the rest of the way. Mirotic isn't going to continue being a 26 PER player the rest of the way.

I dunno. They have too many solid players. Dunn has been a solid starting PG for almost a month now. In addition, Rolo is having a great year. Lauri has been a revelation at times for a 20 year old kid and almost any team would love to have him even if he was 30.

Now they got Niko a proven solid player, playing like a damn all-star. And Nwaba is more than an adquate bench wing...and here comes Lavine.

It's a problem. They gotta make some trades on aggregate. Rolo needs to be 100% gone he's the most obvious flip long term.

[madvillian]

my prediction we will make the playoffs, shock the world and win the title

in that case I'll let bobby flex and garpax can get lifetime extensions and anytime niko is open from 23 feet he has a mandated green light.

[Stratmaster]

In the 2008 draft, the 2 teams with the best lottery odds were just about demolished. Those teams were the Miami Heat and the Seattle Supersonics. I imagine Rose would have had even more success on those teams than he would have on the Bulls.

Miami still had a prime Dwyane Wade. They were closer to a David Robinson/San Antonio type of situation. Either way, having a superstar on a rookie contract playing with nobody can be just as bad.

The Bulls plan is fine. They're building up assets and still in the running for one of the top picks. That was always the best outcome of this season. It's still likely to continue.

It's not the best outcome. You're wrong.

The best outcome would be to have the worst record this year. And the worst record to look forward to in 2019. With a few extra draft picks sprinkled on top.

Unless you don't like watching bull@$#% basketball for 5 seasons, in which case you are wrong.

[WindyCityBorn]

Was at the game tonight...loved it...

But man...Ive been calling it...too much talent to finish bottom 3 right now.

Ill say it again, you need to thin out the depth!!!

Lopez
Holiday
Niko
Portis

3 of those 4 guys can and should be moved. You trade any of those 3 guys with d-leaguers or bench fillers...that should help slow this down.

Holiday isn't helping us win much. He is good like 1 out of every 6 games. Ideally I would trade Lopez and Portis.

[waffle]

You can blame them for doing a rebuild backwards. You don't start by acquiring 3 players that are going to help you win, but aren't likely to be your franchise guy.

So, during the summer people were blaming the front office for not getting enough value for Butler.

Now, the front office is to blame for getting too much value for Butler.

Not sure about 'people' but I made the exact same complaint - and warning - then. That this route could lead you to an NBA treadmill path very quickly.

Its not about total value, we need a dollar bill to launch a rebuild, not 3 quarters.

Lauri surely might be a dollar. Lavine might be a dollar. Dunn might be a dollar. I figured we'd keep Lavine out as long as possible? But if he sees us playing this well? He might be back sooner

Yes, we still need talent, but I really see us as being LESS of a middling treadmill team than we were BEFORE the jimmy trade, in fact I would say that is quite clearly the case.

[kulaz3000]

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I think Dunn was saying that to the tank driver.

I think he saw 4 or 5 RealGM Bulls posters in the audience, that would explain the at least 4 "F HIM"s...

My guess is that Burke was baiting him to shoot the ball.

[madvillian]

Good article, free:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-bulls-jazz-20171213-story.html

[Ccwatercraft]

I was at the game tonight, super fun time.

But it was pretty empty, on a $5 Food Deal Wednesday on Star Wars night. The UC is really feeling the effects of the tank (especially at the prices I got tickets for).

It's actually kind of bad that fans aren't going out there to support the team during this time (especially since most people wanted this). Makes it more likely that ownership gets impatient and spends on an unworthy FA in order to spring up ticket sales.

For the actual game, Donovan Mitchell is the truth. That kid is the most impressive rookie I've seen in person since Derrick. The way he was able to make plays on both ends of the floor was special. Really looking forward to watching more Jazz games just to see him play.

I'm hoping to get to a game next month, fly in and stay with some family. Was looking @ the schedule yesterday. I figured it was a good time to get cheap ticket prices.

Also great deals I've been getting on bulls junk on eBay it's going for pennies on the dollar.

[StunnerKO]

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[madvillian]

Always fun to see a opponent's fan speak well of your team:

Watch on YouTube

[Stratmaster]

Package Rolo Holiday and Bobby for a bad short term contract and 2019 first rounder. Get a top 10 pick in 2018. Top free agent in 2018. Package your 2 2019 first rounders to move up to 6 or 7 in the 2019 draft.

Everyone keeps acting like the tank til you draft a superstar is some proven stairway to heaven. It has yet to work for anyone.

There is more than one way to accomplish this.

Regardless you owe me an and one for working the Led Zep reference in.

Even if you make those trades, now with Dunn, Lavine and Lauri onboard, I really only see next summer as our big shot at a star, that's why it needs to be as high as possible.

If not then competing will be Over the Hills and Far Away, and GarPax are Dazed and Confused and there isn't gonna be a Whole Lot to Love.

Ok... You tried a little too hard but I reciprocated the AND 1 anyway because you dug much deeper into their repertoire than I did. Well Dunn. I mean done.

[Alcatraz17]

Was at the game tonight...loved it...

But man...Ive been calling it...too much talent to finish bottom 3 right now.

Ill say it again, you need to thin out the depth!!!

Lopez
Holiday
Niko
Portis

3 of those 4 guys can and should be moved. You trade any of those 3 guys with d-leaguers or bench fillers...that should help slow this down.

Holiday isn't helping us win much. He is good like 1 out of every 6 games. Ideally I would trade Lopez and Portis.

I didnt list Holiday so much because of his affect on winning...he is a movable piece... I think a team who needs some punch off the bench would welcome him, especially on his deal. Anyone who we can trade who can be replaced with a lesser player makes the list.

No one is taking
Payne
Felicio
Zipser
PonDexter

These pieces could help another teams situation
Rolo- Helps a playoff team needing a big man (Boston)
Portis- Effective and cheap
Niko- Expiring Contract (Lakers)
Holiday- Relatively good deal, bench power


You replace a player with lesser player, you are weakening the depth.

If we win 20 plus, let it be with Lauri Dunn LaVine being the reasons.

[BeatDaCavs420]

I think people forget that having the worst record does not equal no.1 pick.

Yep.

The last 3 winners of the draft lottery had the worst record in the league, which is tied for the longest streak in the lottery's history. We're probably overdue for some variance this year. It's very possible the Bulls could have the worst record and end up at 4.

stop this madness. There's no "overdue for variance" (casino would love you) --it's probability. You. want. the. best. odds. And, most critically, the worst record cannot fall below 4 AND has an almost 50% chance of being top 2.

That's what you have to know. No **** "the worst record doesn't usually get the 1st pick" -- it's 24% odds. So 1/4. Tell us something we don't know.

You want to suck. You DO NOT want to be around 5 or 6. 4 would be bad enough. We need to suck, bottom three at absolute worst.

This is 100% correct

[Alcatraz17]

Package Rolo Holiday and Bobby for a bad short term contract and 2019 first rounder. Get a top 10 pick in 2018. Top free agent in 2018. Package your 2 2019 first rounders to move up to 6 or 7 in the 2019 draft.

Everyone keeps acting like the tank til you draft a superstar is some proven stairway to heaven. It has yet to work for anyone.

There is more than one way to accomplish this.

Regardless you owe me an and one for working the Led Zep reference in.

Even if you make those trades, now with Dunn, Lavine and Lauri onboard, I really only see next summer as our big shot at a star, that's why it needs to be as high as possible.

If not then competing will be Over the Hills and Far Away, and GarPax are Dazed and Confused and there isn't gonna be a Whole Lot to Love.

Ok... You tried a little too hard but I reciprocated the AND 1 anyway because you dug much deeper into their repertoire than I did. Well Dunn. I mean done.

Whole lotta Love happening here...

[Shill]

Not so sure about that. I think it was intentional.

Wait, so Embiid and Simmons were faking surgeries?

No but Hinkie made Embiid pick specifically cause he knew he would miss a year. That's why Bucks and Cavs passed on him. There was risk he would never pan out. Bigs dont return from foot injury and look like superstars. It was huge risk. But that's why Hinkie took him. He knew he would miss a year and 76ers could tank. Same reason he took Saric. He knew he wouldnt come in NBA immediatly and 76ers could tank. Majority of his lottery prospects didnt play a single game of basketball till 3rd or 4th year of tanking.

Tanking every year only for his picks not to play.

He took Embiid because he thought he was the best talent in the draft.

And he certainly didn’t expect him to miss two and a half seasons.

[FriedRise]

my prediction we will make the playoffs, shock the world and win the title

DUDE! Can’t have a championship title ruining the tank.

[WindyCityBorn]

Was at the game tonight...loved it...

But man...Ive been calling it...too much talent to finish bottom 3 right now.

Ill say it again, you need to thin out the depth!!!

Lopez
Holiday
Niko
Portis

3 of those 4 guys can and should be moved. You trade any of those 3 guys with d-leaguers or bench fillers...that should help slow this down.

Holiday isn't helping us win much. He is good like 1 out of every 6 games. Ideally I would trade Lopez and Portis.

I didnt list Holiday so much because of his affect on winning...he is a movable piece... I think a team who needs some punch off the bench would welcome him, especially on his deal. Anyone who we can trade who can be replaced with a lesser player makes the list.

No one is taking
Payne
Felicio
Zipser
PonDexter

These pieces could help another teams situation
Rolo- Helps a playoff team needing a big man (Boston)
Portis- Effective and cheap
Niko- Expiring Contract (Lakers)
Holiday- Relatively good deal, bench power


You replace a player with lesser player, you are weakening the depth.

If we win 20 plus, let it be with Lauri Dunn LaVine being the reasons.

Your best plus for Niko is that he is an expiring contract? He's better than Lopez and has more effect on winning. Also that would require the Bulls to take on some other team's trash(like Deng) for multiple seasons. The article from KC clearly states the Bulls are not looking to do that. The Lakers don't even have first to give us next summer.

The Bulls are looking to more value from their assets than just losing more games.