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Jcool0 wrote:fleet wrote:
I honestly don’t care what coaches say to players that can’t play. It isn’t nice, but neither is football.
He has thrown 27 TDs and 15 INTs with a 13-8 record in 21 starts he can play.
Susan wrote:Interesting article in The Athletic today - Nagy had a meeting scheduled with Mitch in the 2019 offseason to discuss what he could do better and while Mitch showed up, Nagy no-showed.
Mitchell Trubisky was drafted by the Chicago Bears the year before Matt Nagy was hired as head coach. Many viewed that as a problem from the start, and those concerns quickly materialized. At one point, Nagy reportedly stopped making a significant effort to help his quarterback succeed.
Adam Jahns and Kevin Fishbain of The Athletic spoke with several sources about the dysfunction that has existed in Chicago for the last decade. According to one of those sources, Trubisky and Nagy set up a one-on-one meeting after the 2019 season. That was Trubisky’s third year in the NFL and second under Nagy. The former No. 2 overall pick struggled with just 3,138 yards, 17 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in 15 games. He wanted to discuss how he and Nagy could improve their partnership, and he prepared notes for a meeting.
Nagy reportedly “no-showed” Trubisky, and the QB left his notes behind. It was unclear if the meeting was rescheduled or ever actually took place.
The following season, Nagy was hard on Trubisky out of the gate. He supposedly blasted the former North Carolina star in front of the entire team while watching film from Chicago’s 17-13 loss to the New York Giants in Week 2. Trubisky apparently made the wrong read when completing a 12-yard pass to tight end Cole Kmet. The drive ended with a touchdown, but Nagy made it a point to blast Trubisky for missing a wide-open receiver on the play where he threw to Kmet.
“Nagy proceeded to chastise Mitch for being uncoachable and not throwing it to the proper guy in front of the whole team,” a source told The Athletic.
Trubisky was benched the following week after throwing an interception against the Atlanta Falcons. Nick Foles, whom the Bears acquired in a trade prior to the season, took over. Trubisky started again later in the year after Foles got hurt, but it was clear at that point that Nagy had moved on from him.
WookieOnRitalin wrote:Game 1. It's where the series is truly 0-0.
fleet wrote:DraftKings odds
Jim Harbaugh +450
Brian Flores +500
Leslie Frazier +500
Doug Pederson +750
Brian Daboll +800
Pat Fitzgerald +900
Eric Bieniemy +900
Matt Eberflus +1000
Josh McDaniels +1000
Chi town wrote:fleet wrote:DraftKings odds
Jim Harbaugh +450
Brian Flores +500
Leslie Frazier +500
Doug Pederson +750
Brian Daboll +800
Pat Fitzgerald +900
Eric Bieniemy +900
Matt Eberflus +1000
Josh McDaniels +1000
I’m scared they’d take Frazier over Flores.
Chi town wrote:fleet wrote:DraftKings odds
Jim Harbaugh +450
Brian Flores +500
Leslie Frazier +500
Doug Pederson +750
Brian Daboll +800
Pat Fitzgerald +900
Eric Bieniemy +900
Matt Eberflus +1000
Josh McDaniels +1000
I’m scared they’d take Frazier over Flores.
fleet wrote:Strong feels that Flores goes to Texans, Harbaugh to Michigan. What the Bears get from the lessers that are left, who can say. Slight feeling that it will be Frazier.
January 14, 2022 at 10:43 am
Diving into the Bears' 'endless cycle'
Since George McCaskey took over as chairman of the Bears in 2011, the three most important people in his franchise — the GM, head coach and quarterback — have seldom aligned. Bad decisions compounded previous bad decisions.
“Nobody gets a clean slate; nobody gets to build their own program,” said former long snapper Patrick Mannelly, the longest-tenured player in Bears franchise history. “It feels like everybody kind of has had one handcuff on whenever they got hired.”
“It’s an endless cycle of inheriting the previous regime’s trash,” a former team employee said.
And it’s about to happen again.
The Athletic talked to more than a dozen sources close to the team about the moments over the past decade when the organization didn’t seem to know what it wanted to be — or how to fix itself. The sources were granted anonymity in exchange for candor
According to BetMGM -- ironically an online service not available in Illinois -- Flores is the 8-5 (+160) chalk to be the next transitting whistler in Lake Forest.
Directly below the 40-year-old surprise free agent are:
• Ex-Bear and current Buffalo DC Leslie Frazier, 6-1;
• Bills OC Brian Daboli, 13-2;
• Colts DC Matt Eberflus, 13-2; and,
• Underemployed Super Bowl 52 Philly cheese champ Doug Pederson, 8-1.
A competing odds ranking has Jim Harbaugh up as the second choice behind Flores at 4-1.
fleet wrote:Flores does seem to be like Scott Skiles. Thibs even. The reliability of Jordan Shultz I cannot say. But I would guess that any coach trying to get a HC job would be smart enough not to hitch himself to a wagon like Deshaun Watson during job interviews ffs. My guess is, the Watson camp is putting stuff out there and taking liberties.
fleet wrote:DraftKings odds
Jim Harbaugh +450
Brian Flores +500
Leslie Frazier +500
Doug Pederson +750
Brian Daboll +800
Pat Fitzgerald +900
Eric Bieniemy +900
Matt Eberflus +1000
Josh McDaniels +1000
fleet wrote:Susan wrote:Interesting article in The Athletic today - Nagy had a meeting scheduled with Mitch in the 2019 offseason to discuss what he could do better and while Mitch showed up, Nagy no-showed.Mitchell Trubisky was drafted by the Chicago Bears the year before Matt Nagy was hired as head coach. Many viewed that as a problem from the start, and those concerns quickly materialized. At one point, Nagy reportedly stopped making a significant effort to help his quarterback succeed.
Adam Jahns and Kevin Fishbain of The Athletic spoke with several sources about the dysfunction that has existed in Chicago for the last decade. According to one of those sources, Trubisky and Nagy set up a one-on-one meeting after the 2019 season. That was Trubisky’s third year in the NFL and second under Nagy. The former No. 2 overall pick struggled with just 3,138 yards, 17 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in 15 games. He wanted to discuss how he and Nagy could improve their partnership, and he prepared notes for a meeting.
Nagy reportedly “no-showed” Trubisky, and the QB left his notes behind. It was unclear if the meeting was rescheduled or ever actually took place.
The following season, Nagy was hard on Trubisky out of the gate. He supposedly blasted the former North Carolina star in front of the entire team while watching film from Chicago’s 17-13 loss to the New York Giants in Week 2. Trubisky apparently made the wrong read when completing a 12-yard pass to tight end Cole Kmet. The drive ended with a touchdown, but Nagy made it a point to blast Trubisky for missing a wide-open receiver on the play where he threw to Kmet.
“Nagy proceeded to chastise Mitch for being uncoachable and not throwing it to the proper guy in front of the whole team,” a source told The Athletic.
Trubisky was benched the following week after throwing an interception against the Atlanta Falcons. Nick Foles, whom the Bears acquired in a trade prior to the season, took over. Trubisky started again later in the year after Foles got hurt, but it was clear at that point that Nagy had moved on from him.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/larrybrownsports.com/football/unflattering-report-details-matt-nagys-handling-of-mitchell-trubisky/590375%3Famp
Considering this information was given only on the pretext of being granted anonymity..I think you're wrong. Not to mention the other damning information in this article regarding Nagy and Trubisky.dice wrote:fleet wrote:Susan wrote:Interesting article in The Athletic today - Nagy had a meeting scheduled with Mitch in the 2019 offseason to discuss what he could do better and while Mitch showed up, Nagy no-showed.Mitchell Trubisky was drafted by the Chicago Bears the year before Matt Nagy was hired as head coach. Many viewed that as a problem from the start, and those concerns quickly materialized. At one point, Nagy reportedly stopped making a significant effort to help his quarterback succeed.
Adam Jahns and Kevin Fishbain of The Athletic spoke with several sources about the dysfunction that has existed in Chicago for the last decade. According to one of those sources, Trubisky and Nagy set up a one-on-one meeting after the 2019 season. That was Trubisky’s third year in the NFL and second under Nagy. The former No. 2 overall pick struggled with just 3,138 yards, 17 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in 15 games. He wanted to discuss how he and Nagy could improve their partnership, and he prepared notes for a meeting.
Nagy reportedly “no-showed” Trubisky, and the QB left his notes behind. It was unclear if the meeting was rescheduled or ever actually took place.
The following season, Nagy was hard on Trubisky out of the gate. He supposedly blasted the former North Carolina star in front of the entire team while watching film from Chicago’s 17-13 loss to the New York Giants in Week 2. Trubisky apparently made the wrong read when completing a 12-yard pass to tight end Cole Kmet. The drive ended with a touchdown, but Nagy made it a point to blast Trubisky for missing a wide-open receiver on the play where he threw to Kmet.
“Nagy proceeded to chastise Mitch for being uncoachable and not throwing it to the proper guy in front of the whole team,” a source told The Athletic.
Trubisky was benched the following week after throwing an interception against the Atlanta Falcons. Nick Foles, whom the Bears acquired in a trade prior to the season, took over. Trubisky started again later in the year after Foles got hurt, but it was clear at that point that Nagy had moved on from him.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/larrybrownsports.com/football/unflattering-report-details-matt-nagys-handling-of-mitchell-trubisky/590375%3Famp
there is ZERO chance that nagy just blew off trubisky and didn't reschedule
