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Re: Love wants wants LA or NY (update pg 5, Chicago or GS to 

Post#361 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Sun May 18, 2014 11:22 pm

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HomoSapien wrote:If there was ever a time for Derrick Rose to start recruiting, it's now. There's going to be a ton of competition for Love. Love forcing his way to Chicago is the only way to eliminate that competition.


Homo gets it.

This is as much about our guys convincing Love that we're in a winning situation. Let the FO handle the particulars later on, but our guys, namely Rose and Jo, need to be on the phone to Love right now and putting in their selling pitch.

Play the game, Derrick.


What are you talking about? Our record and playoff appearances the last 4 years say all that. Besides "Hey, it would be great to play together, we could win" What profound contribution are these guys going to make exactly?


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Post#362 » by kingkirk » Sun May 18, 2014 11:23 pm

PMONSTER wrote:Did you just call Melo and Love superstars and omit Rose?

I understand why Rose would be omitted (injuries) but all of a sudden Love and Melo are? Ok....


There is every bit of a chance that Rose is no longer a superstar, therefore having none, which we may at this point, to having 2 by bringing in Love and Melo to pair with Rose is incredibily wishful thinking.
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Re: Love wants wants LA or NY (update pg 5, Chicago or GS to 

Post#363 » by RememberLu » Sun May 18, 2014 11:26 pm

there's such a thin line between star and superstar. I'll be happy with 2 and a half star players
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Re: Love wants wants LA or NY (update pg 5, Chicago or GS to 

Post#364 » by PMONSTER » Sun May 18, 2014 11:28 pm

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PMONSTER wrote:Did you just call Melo and Love superstars and omit Rose?

I understand why Rose would be omitted (injuries) but all of a sudden Love and Melo are? Ok....


There is every bit of a chance that Rose is no longer a superstar, therefore having none, which we may at this point, to having 2 by bringing in Love and Melo to pair with Rose is incredibily wishful thinking.


I know that part about Rose. That's why I mentioned his injuries.

I'm just not used to people calling Melo and Love superstars. Well I am, just not on this board.

Ok.... cool. We could potentially have three superstars on this team. Depending on Rose's health of course.

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Post#365 » by kingkirk » Sun May 18, 2014 11:32 pm

WinCity wrote:What are you talking about? Our record and playoff appearances the last 4 years say all that. Besides "Hey, it would be great to play together, we could win" What profound contribution are these guys going to make exactly?


If Rose sits on his ass and doesn't make a pitch of his own whilst Curry & Klay start getting in contact with Love, you don't believe that will have any factor in his decision?

Love wants to win, but let's not pretend that stars mingling and courting each other is the way **** gets done in this league.

Both the Bulls and Warriors are great options for Love for winning over a 6-7 year period.

If i am Love, i would go to the Warriors, but our guys best be selling the message as well.
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Re: Love wants wants LA or NY (update pg 5, Chicago or GS to 

Post#366 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Sun May 18, 2014 11:33 pm

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WinCity wrote:What are you talking about? Our record and playoff appearances the last 4 years say all that. Besides "Hey, it would be great to play together, we could win" What profound contribution are these guys going to make exactly?


If Rose sits on his ass and doesn't make a pitch of his own whilst Curry & Klay start getting in contact with Love, you don't believe that will have any factor in his decision?

Love wants to win, but let's not pretend that stars mingling and courting each other is the way **** gets done in this league.

Both the Bulls and Warriors are great options for Love for winning over a 6-7 year period.

If i am Love, i would go to the Warriors, but our guys best be selling the message as well.


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Re: Love wants wants LA or NY (update pg 5, Chicago or GS to 

Post#367 » by WinCity » Sun May 18, 2014 11:33 pm

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Homo gets it.

This is as much about our guys convincing Love that we're in a winning situation. Let the FO handle the particulars later on, but our guys, namely Rose and Jo, need to be on the phone to Love right now and putting in their selling pitch.

Play the game, Derrick.


What are you talking about? Our record and playoff appearances the last 4 years say all that. Besides "Hey, it would be great to play together, we could win" What profound contribution are these guys going to make exactly?


"Hey Love and Melo join Rose and me(Noah) and then well all get a place together and turn it into a reality show and let the hilarity ensue and watch the champioships flood in..."



:lol:

Seriously though, your previous comment about the logic of the situation is 99% of this thing. If Love just doesn't want to freeze his butt off in the midwest anymore then no amount of affection Rose and Noah might give him will change that. Look at Dwight. The guy just didnt want to come here. I'm all for making a phone call but as was discussed in the other thread this isn't some grand plan a la MIA's big 3, its a last minute pitch. Its not going to be all that big a factor.
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Post#368 » by kingkirk » Sun May 18, 2014 11:35 pm

PMONSTER wrote:I know that part about Rose. That's why I mentioned his injuries.

I'm just not used to people calling Melo and Love superstars. Well I am, just not on this board.

Ok.... cool. We could potentially have three superstars on this team. Depending on Rose's health of course.

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Call them what you want, be it superstars, allstars, stars, whatever.

It's all subjective anyway, but at the end of the day, no matter how you define them, what their flaws and strengths are etc, both are top 15 players at worst.

That's all that matters.
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Re: Love wants wants LA or NY (update pg 5, Chicago or GS to 

Post#369 » by WinCity » Sun May 18, 2014 11:36 pm

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WinCity wrote:What are you talking about? Our record and playoff appearances the last 4 years say all that. Besides "Hey, it would be great to play together, we could win" What profound contribution are these guys going to make exactly?


If Rose sits on his ass and doesn't make a pitch of his own whilst Curry & Klay start getting in contact with Love, you don't believe that will have any factor in his decision?

Love wants to win, but let's not pretend that stars mingling and courting each other is the way **** gets done in this league.

Both the Bulls and Warriors are great options for Love for winning over a 6-7 year period.

If i am Love, i would go to the Warriors, but our guys best be selling the message as well.



You are talking Cali vs CHI (weather). A healthy young star PG vs a twice injured one. Not to mention the teams have a say here as well as we are talking a sign and trade. There are a lot of factors in play here and "recruitment" is probably the least important one.
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Post#370 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Sun May 18, 2014 11:37 pm

Whatever the offer is I think we can beat anything GS has to offer.
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Re: Love wants wants LA or NY (update pg 5, Chicago or GS to 

Post#371 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Sun May 18, 2014 11:38 pm

I also don't think we should be so worried about the weather. Loves been in Minnesota a long time he probably used to it. He also has us and NY on his list. It doesn't sound like he's the pansy that Dwight is.
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Post#372 » by WinCity » Sun May 18, 2014 11:43 pm

JohnnyKILLroy wrote:I also don't think we should be so worried about the weather. Loves been in Minnesota a long time he probably used to it. He also has us and NY on his list. It doesn't sound like he's the pansy that Dwight is.



NY weather is pretty rough as well but the midwest is worse. Dwight saw a difference I wouldn't be surprised if other star players do as well.
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Post#373 » by TheGameChanger » Sun May 18, 2014 11:44 pm

Hang on Melo and Love both in Chicago. How Can that happen?
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Re: Love wants wants LA or NY (update pg 5, Chicago or GS to 

Post#374 » by kingkirk » Sun May 18, 2014 11:44 pm

WinCity wrote:You are talking Cali vs CHI (weather). A healthy young star PG vs a twice injured one. Not to mention the teams have a say here as well as we are talking a sign and trade. There are a lot of factors in play here and "recruitment" is probably the least important one.


If we're talking Cali vs CHI in terms of weather, i fail to see why this is an issue when we have been shortlisted.

If he is not interested in the cold, why even list the Bulls?

He wants to win, and he has correctly identified 2 teams that can take the next step with his inclusion.

Curry has his injury issues as well with those ankles.

Why are we talking a S&T?
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Post#375 » by LobosJordan » Sun May 18, 2014 11:50 pm

Melo should still be priority number one.

Any thoughts about getting Love to pair up with us, should be dealt with after Melo is secured.
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Post#376 » by WinCity » Sun May 18, 2014 11:50 pm

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WinCity wrote:You are talking Cali vs CHI (weather). A healthy young star PG vs a twice injured one. Not to mention the teams have a say here as well as we are talking a sign and trade. There are a lot of factors in play here and "recruitment" is probably the least important one.


If we're talking Cali vs CHI in terms of weather, i fail to see why this is an issue when we have been shortlisted.

If he is not interested in the cold, why even list the Bulls?


Fall back option. Wouldn't be the first time.

He wants to win, and he has correctly identified 2 teams that can take the next step with his inclusion.


Its fairly subjective though isnt it? If he just likes it in the Bay Area better or thinks he has a better shot with that team than what the hell is anyone going to say that is so damn convincing? I just think this whole "recruitment" thing is over-hyped since the big 3 summer. What they did was much, much more than recruitment.

Curry has his injury issues as well with those ankles.


Come on. Thats not even close two missing 2 seasons and 3 playoffs with 2 knee injuries.

Why are we talking a S&T?


I was under the impression we would trade for him? Is that not the case, because he isn't a free agent yet.
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Post#377 » by WinCity » Sun May 18, 2014 11:52 pm

LobosJordan wrote:Melo should still be priority number one.

Any thoughts about getting Love to pair up with us, should be dealt with after Melo is secured.



Whilst I favor Melo over Love I woudln't wait on my hands to hear from Melo. We could miss out on both that way. I would reach out to both and if Melo makes it clear we are his first choice than I hold off on dealing for Love. If there is any hesitation by Melo I just go balls out for Love via trade and then see what happens.
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Post#378 » by BullsFTW » Sun May 18, 2014 11:53 pm

Draft Night: Boozer + Mirotic + 16th & 19th Picks for Love

Free Agency: Taj + MDJ + Non-Guarantees + SAC Pick + CHI 2016 Pick for Melo

F Anthony
F Love
C Noah
G Butler
G Rose
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Re: Love wants wants LA or NY (update pg 5, Chicago or GS to 

Post#379 » by BullsFTW » Sun May 18, 2014 11:55 pm

WinCity wrote:
LobosJordan wrote:Melo should still be priority number one.

Any thoughts about getting Love to pair up with us, should be dealt with after Melo is secured.



Whilst I favor Melo over Love I woudln't wait on my hands to hear from Melo. We could miss out on both that way. I would reach out to both and if Melo makes it clear we are his first choice than I hold off on dealing for Love. If there is any hesitation by Melo I just go balls out for Love via trade and then see what happens.

I agree as well, and landing Love may narrow Melo's choice to only Chicago.
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Post#380 » by WinCity » Sun May 18, 2014 11:55 pm

BullsFTW wrote:Draft Night: Boozer + Mirotic + 16th & 19th Picks for Love

Free Agency: Taj + MDJ + Non-Guarantees + SAC Pick + CHI 2016 Pick for Melo

F Anthony
F Love
C Noah
G Butler
G Rose
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