OT: The next President of the United States: ★★★ Donald Trump ★★★

[the ultimates]

Trump slaughtered Clinton in the second debate. This is pretty clear to anyone who isn't a single-issue voter (women, minorities, etc).

Sad state of affairs in America when the outcome of a presidential election will be determined off of a leaked video on some random comments a guy made in private, off the record, about what he does in his personal life over a full decade ago.

This is supposedly somehow worse than a lying, corrupt scumbag like Clinton getting away with corruption/crime/fraud to an extent that we have never seen in the history of politics.

Clinton will make a terrible president. Even worse than Obama. Gonna suck these next 4 years.

He slaughtered her in the debate in exactly what way?

[TheSuzerain]

Trump slaughtered Clinton in the second debate. This is pretty clear to anyone who isn't a single-issue voter (women, minorities, etc).

Sad state of affairs in America when the outcome of a presidential election will be determined off of a leaked video on some random comments a guy made in private, off the record, about what he does in his personal life over a full decade ago.

This is supposedly somehow worse than a lying, corrupt scumbag like Clinton getting away with corruption/crime/fraud to an extent that we have never seen in the history of politics.

Clinton will make a terrible president. Even worse than Obama. Gonna suck these next 4 years.

lol so white men are the only people who aren't single-issue voters.

[DuckIII]

Trump slaughtered Clinton in the second debate. This is pretty clear to anyone who isn't a single-issue voter (women, minorities, etc).

Sad state of affairs in America when the outcome of a presidential election will be determined off of a leaked video on some random comments a guy made in private, off the record, about what he does in his personal life over a full decade ago.

This is supposedly somehow worse than a lying, corrupt scumbag like Clinton getting away with corruption/crime/fraud to an extent that we have never seen in the history of politics.

Clinton will make a terrible president. Even worse than Obama. Gonna suck these next 4 years.

lol so white men are the only people who aren't single-issue voters.

And women and minorities only have one issue. They are nothing more than their sex and race, respectively, dontcha know?

Goes back to my earlier posts about the upside of Trump. His existence helps you identify who is who and how they really are. He has empowered the post you responded to. Which is a good thing.

[League Circles]

The leaked video did decide the election. That and the comments about some irrelevant Hispanic woman/former beauty pageant contestant from over 20 years ago. Take a look at the polling numbers before and after that happened. It shows where the voters' priorities are, and it's really sad that irrelevant nobodies like Alicia Machado and a behind-the-scenes private conversation about nothing to do with actual policies, decision-making, leadership, etc (you know, the stuff that actually does matter when electing a president) are determining a presidential election.

Alicia Machado has only one vote, she isn't deciding anything. It's just his general attitude about, well, people that make him undesirable to most as president. Specifically, people are afraid that his attitude will prevent him from being able to be a good leader. He's very disliked (as is Hilary), which is not a typical quality in a great leader.

I have no problem with Clinton winning, even though I think she's garbage as a candidate. But to win off of silliness like "He's racist!" (that fat Machado woman) and "He's sexist!" (the leaked video) is where my problem is. Come on. There are much bigger issues facing the world/this country, and the election is essentially being decided off of things that could not matter less.

I agree that, in theory, he may not be racist or sexist. I haven't called him that and don't particularly think there is justifiable evidence for those terms.

He is, however, undeniably immature as a human being. He has poor temperment and makes emotionally charged and inflammatory comments. Those are the biggest reason he won't be the next president. It's not like people were cool with him and thought he was a diplomatic, cool headed, inspirational leader until these leaks and stuff. It just confirmed what most people already felt about him.

The election is being decided off of peoples' votes. Nothing more, nothing less. And how leaders think and speak does matter. It's actually very important in world affairs and in developing bipartisan support.

[League Circles]

Trump slaughtered Clinton in the second debate. This is pretty clear to anyone who isn't a single-issue voter (women, minorities, etc).

Sad state of affairs in America when the outcome of a presidential election will be determined off of a leaked video on some random comments a guy made in private, off the record, about what he does in his personal life over a full decade ago.

This is supposedly somehow worse than a lying, corrupt scumbag like Clinton getting away with corruption/crime/fraud to an extent that we have never seen in the history of politics.

Clinton will make a terrible president. Even worse than Obama. Gonna suck these next 4 years.

He slaughtered her in the debate in exactly what way?

Obviously in the all important man vs woman way. He was so **** male and she was so **** female couldn't you see it?!

[johnnyvann840]

The leaked video did decide the election. That and the comments about some irrelevant Hispanic woman/former beauty pageant contestant from over 20 years ago. Take a look at the polling numbers before and after that happened. It shows where the voters' priorities are, and it's really sad that irrelevant nobodies like Alicia Machado and a behind-the-scenes private conversation about nothing to do with actual policies, decision-making, leadership, etc (you know, the stuff that actually does matter when electing a president) are determining a presidential election.

I have no problem with Clinton winning, even though I think she's garbage as a candidate. But to win off of silliness like "He's racist!" (that fat Machado woman) and "He's sexist!" (the leaked video) is where my problem is. Come on. There are much bigger issues facing the world/this country, and the election is essentially being decided off of things that could not matter less.

No it didn't. Listen to yourself, man. Are you serious? "that fat Machado woman"? Really? Obvious where you're coming from.

Look, if it wasn't those things, it would have been something else. Trump continues to implode more and more on a daily basis so it was just a matter of time. You aren't comprehending the real issue... that people just got a look into the man that Trump is. Just look at what Trump did to Obama with the birth certificate thing. Why? That doesn't really have anything to do with this election either. Bringing Paula Jones and those women to the debate and having his little "dog and pony show" with the press. What is this the Corleone's bringing Frank Pantangelo's brother into the courtroom to intimidate him on the stand? Only Trump. Jesus. THAT is the kind of crap that turns people off.

Policy-wise Trump is an idiot. What is he really running on? "Build the Wall".... 'Make America Great Again"... "Hire a Special Prosecutor to investigate his opponent if he wins" Hillary is no prize and the thought of her being the POTUS turns my stomach a little. But the thought of Trump as POTUS is just plain laughable.

It's like Duck said, it's just people showing who they are. Even here. Even you.

[r1terrell23]

Trump slaughtered Clinton in the second debate. This is pretty clear to anyone who isn't a single-issue voter (women, minorities, etc).

Sad state of affairs in America when the outcome of a presidential election will be determined off of a leaked video on some random comments a guy made in private, off the record, about what he does in his personal life over a full decade ago.

This is supposedly somehow worse than a lying, corrupt scumbag like Clinton getting away with corruption/crime/fraud to an extent that we have never seen in the history of politics.

Clinton will make a terrible president. Even worse than Obama. Gonna suck these next 4 years.

He slaughtered her in the debate in exactly what way?

No he meant he wanted to literally slaughter her at the debate when he stalked her.

[League Circles]

Trump slaughtered Clinton in the second debate. This is pretty clear to anyone who isn't a single-issue voter (women, minorities, etc).

Sad state of affairs in America when the outcome of a presidential election will be determined off of a leaked video on some random comments a guy made in private, off the record, about what he does in his personal life over a full decade ago.

This is supposedly somehow worse than a lying, corrupt scumbag like Clinton getting away with corruption/crime/fraud to an extent that we have never seen in the history of politics.

Clinton will make a terrible president. Even worse than Obama. Gonna suck these next 4 years.

lol so white men are the only people who aren't single-issue voters.

And women and minorities only have one issue. They are nothing more than their sex and race, respectively, dontcha know?

Goes back to my earlier posts about the upside of Trump. His existence helps you identify who is who and how they really are. He has empowered the post you responded to. Which is a good thing.

You have a good point about him empowering attitudes like that. It's good in the sense that it helps you see people for what they are, but, if you really think about it, that is probably of little real benefit to you or society. I mean, ok, now we know which people at least somewhat support all of Trump's very negative attitudes. What do we do with that info?

Trump also probably exacerbates those attitudes. He probably makes people feel even more strongly about their troublesome attitudes. And that is most definitely a bad thing.

[Axl Rose]

I think ive decided on Trump. I like Obama as a person but he was pretty soft, Hillary will only be an extension of that style of leadership. Trump isn't perfect but i think our only chance at change will be with him...i'll take the risk.

[Jo Jo English]

Watch on YouTube

"She's a very beautiful baby," Trump replied. "She's got Marla's legs. We don't know whether or not"—he put his hands to his chest to indicate breasts—"she's got this part yet, but time will tell."

Yep. Ready to vote.

[Axl Rose]

Trumps biggest issue is that hes is tone deaf as hell.

if he were to win then it would be something that he would need to fix asap.

[Hangtime84]

I think ive decided on Trump. I like Obama as a person but he was pretty soft, Hillary will only be an extension of that style of leadership. Trump isn't perfect but i think our only chance at change will be with him...i'll take the risk.

Thing is presidents shouldn't be too hard either. Obama imo is a moderate and so is hillary.

It is sterotypical to believe alpha personalities as amazing talented and smart. But having high EQ is understanding and having the ability to motivate others.

Hillary found ways to do that. Trump uses his influence and bullying tactics do so. I see how it works for him in business.

But this isn't after we drop the bomb on Japan in WW2. Where we could talk brashly. This is age of digital warefare and there are many ways to kill people. Trump will incite war.

I more interested in seeing which party wins congres now.

[Jeffster81]

Either a federal criminal dressed up to be nothing more than a puppet of the B.O. regime, or a "rodeo clown" who is "moral bankrupt" (as Bradley Whitford puts it)for president? This feels like that "Aliens versus Predator" movie in which the tagline was: "whoever wins.... we lose."

Democrats has had eight years to get their crap in order, so I rather see Trump in office over Clinton. At least Trump won't be a spineless jellyfish like the current president.

With that said, whoever wins will only get four years. And both parties needs to developed better candidates, because if Trump and Clinton are the best at what GOP/Democrats can offer, then this country truly is in trouble.

[the ultimates]

Either a federal criminal dressed up to be nothing more than a puppet of the B.O. regime, or a "rodeo clown" who is "moral bankrupt" (as Bradley Whitford puts it)for president? This feels like that "Aliens versus Predator" movie in which the tagline was: "whoever wins.... we lose."

Democrats has had eight years to get their crap in order, so I rather see Trump in office over Clinton. At least Trump won't be a spineless jellyfish like the current president.

With that said, whoever wins will only get four years. And both parties needs to developed better candidates, because if Trump and Clinton are the best at what GOP/Democrats can offer, then this country truly is in trouble.

She was investigated by the FBI and they found no criminal wrong doing. Colin Powell also had a private email server were was the investigation on that? Spineless in what way? Syria were after the President talked about the red line republicans in Congress said they would make it difficult for him to use military force.

Iraq/ISIS, when was Iraq going to have the military ability to handle those situations by itself? How long would they needed to further have a large number of U.S. troops 10, 20 years, indefinitely? For such a tough guy he sure won't say anything bad about Russia. Russia's history of hacking large American business and government sites long before the DNC hack. The annexing of Crimea.

[TheSuzerain]

Trumps biggest issue is that hes is tone deaf as hell.

if he were to win then it would be something that he would need to fix asap.

Trump's biggest issue is that he is entirely unfit to hold the office.

To an unfixable degree.

[coldfish]

One thing that struck me recently is Trump's business resume. He didn't work his way up through the ranks at a company. Even worse, he never even lead a big company or was accountable to shareholders. This isn't someone who can claim to be a CEO in a traditional sense or even someone who built up a normal company.

To the best of my knowledge, he has been a real estate investor for most of his life. Any company he ran was basically a holding company created for tax purposes to control his investments. The type of people who are successful here are not leaders but gamblers. People who can find the right bet and then go big with it.

He has basically spent his entire life in a bubble created by his father's money. He has never really had to work with people or was ever really accountable to anyone. Even big time CEO's have to navigate labor unions, shareholders, boards, etc. I can see why he is such a narcissist. A long time ago, I thought he was a lying salesman simply telling frustrated voters what they wanted to hear to get nominated. Now, I really think he believes he is something he really isn't.

I think pretty poorly of Hillary still but certainly don't mean to equivocate the two. At this point, I think I might vote Libertarian (who himself is a boob) just so I can say I'm not responsible for the upcoming Clinton corporatism move. The only thing that gives me political solace is a real world negative. The US is due for another recession. The next president will likely be a one termer.

[League Circles]

One thing that struck me recently is Trump's business resume. He didn't work his way up through the ranks at a company. Even worse, he never even lead a big company or was accountable to shareholders. This isn't someone who can claim to be a CEO in a traditional sense or even someone who built up a normal company.

To the best of my knowledge, he has been a real estate investor for most of his life. Any company he ran was basically a holding company created for tax purposes to control his investments. The type of people who are successful here are not leaders but gamblers. People who can find the right bet and then go big with it.

He has basically spent his entire life in a bubble created by his father's money. He has never really had to work with people or was ever really accountable to anyone. Even big time CEO's have to navigate labor unions, shareholders, boards, etc. I can see why he is such a narcissist. A long time ago, I thought he was a lying salesman simply telling frustrated voters what they wanted to hear to get nominated. Now, I really think he believes he is something he really isn't.

I think pretty poorly of Hillary still but certainly don't mean to equivocate the two. At this point, I think I might vote Libertarian (who himself is a boob) just so I can say I'm not responsible for the upcoming Clinton corporatism move. The only thing that gives me political solace is a real world negative. The US is due for another recession. The next president will likely be a one termer.

This can't be overstated. He hasn't been in charge of ****.

[jnrjr79]

Trump slaughtered Clinton in the second debate. This is pretty clear to anyone who isn't a single-issue voter (women, minorities, etc).

Sad state of affairs in America when the outcome of a presidential election will be determined off of a leaked video on some random comments a guy made in private, off the record, about what he does in his personal life over a full decade ago.

This is supposedly somehow worse than a lying, corrupt scumbag like Clinton getting away with corruption/crime/fraud to an extent that we have never seen in the history of politics.

Clinton will make a terrible president. Even worse than Obama. Gonna suck these next 4 years.

I'm not a Clinton fan, but the leaked video isn't what's going to decide the election. The biggest factor is Trump coming across as an angry, arrogant ****.

It's really that simple. Most voters including me don't like Clinton one bit.

But Trump is somehow, amazingly even more unlikable. And his history is just as questionable as hers really when you consider things like not releasing the tax returns, the bankruptcies, all the wives and cheating, etc.

You act like Trump is some kind of obvious choice. He's not. They both suck and would make bad presidents. Hilary is just more predictable and stable, less likely to be a risk in international affairs.

The leaked video did decide the election. That and the comments about some irrelevant Hispanic woman/former beauty pageant contestant from over 20 years ago. Take a look at the polling numbers before and after that happened. It shows where the voters' priorities are, and it's really sad that irrelevant nobodies like Alicia Machado and a behind-the-scenes private conversation about nothing to do with actual policies, decision-making, leadership, etc (you know, the stuff that actually does matter when electing a president) are determining a presidential election.

I have no problem with Clinton winning, even though I think she's garbage as a candidate. But to win off of silliness like "He's racist!" (that fat Machado woman) and "He's sexist!" (the leaked video) is where my problem is. Come on. There are much bigger issues facing the world/this country, and the election is essentially being decided off of things that could not matter less.

2 things:

1. Trump has been losing to Clinton ever since his nomination. These recent events are not necessarily why he'll lose, but rather why he'll lose by a significant margin.

2. Characterizing the video and the women who have come forward since then as evidence of sexism is not accurate. This is sexual assault, not merely holding a view that women are inferior. That view may have made him more likely to engage in the assaults themselves, but actually sexually assaulting someone is a different thing than holding a thought between your ears.

That said, a candidate being racist and sexist are perfectly legitimate bases for that candidate to lose.

[jnrjr79]

Trumps biggest issue is that hes is tone deaf as hell.

if he were to win then it would be something that he would need to fix asap.

The man is 70 years old. He has been unable to refrain from stupid, self-destructive behavior throughout the campaign, despite pleas from the GOP. He is not going to "fix" anything about who he is.

[TheStig]

One thing that struck me recently is Trump's business resume. He didn't work his way up through the ranks at a company. Even worse, he never even lead a big company or was accountable to shareholders. This isn't someone who can claim to be a CEO in a traditional sense or even someone who built up a normal company.

To the best of my knowledge, he has been a real estate investor for most of his life. Any company he ran was basically a holding company created for tax purposes to control his investments. The type of people who are successful here are not leaders but gamblers. People who can find the right bet and then go big with it.

He has basically spent his entire life in a bubble created by his father's money. He has never really had to work with people or was ever really accountable to anyone. Even big time CEO's have to navigate labor unions, shareholders, boards, etc. I can see why he is such a narcissist. A long time ago, I thought he was a lying salesman simply telling frustrated voters what they wanted to hear to get nominated. Now, I really think he believes he is something he really isn't.

I think pretty poorly of Hillary still but certainly don't mean to equivocate the two. At this point, I think I might vote Libertarian (who himself is a boob) just so I can say I'm not responsible for the upcoming Clinton corporatism move. The only thing that gives me political solace is a real world negative. The US is due for another recession. The next president will likely be a one termer.

Trump's business resume is atrocious. Numerous bankruptcies, bailouts from Daddy and federal lawsuits involving fraud, discrimination and human rights violations.

His empire was built up on getting Daddy's money and connections and over leveraging till they had to restructure. Same thing with all the tax abatement that allowed him to be profitable.

Without Daddy's money and connections, he wouldn't have become anything noteworthy. He got bought into all the right circles and had insider deals. He's not a Cuban or Buffet.

And he's not worth anything near what he says he is. People with 10 Billion dollars don't scam 10k from poor people in scams like Trump University.

Clinton has her skeletons but the way Trump treated his tennants when he bought a building, the immigrants he used to build trump tower and the atrocious ways they were treated, the womanizing (which apparently spread to sexual assault and alleged rape of Ivana), lying, scams, Russian espionage is just atrocious.