Way too early NBA draft thread 2021

[Pax for Prez]

I like Nix. Feels like a real PG. strong IQ

I am interested how he preforms in next weeks games. His draft status started as late lotto and now is in 2nd rd.

[DuckIII]

I’m not going to be at all surprised if Ayo Dosumnu ends up a top 20 pick. With every passing week, he shows more and more. His triple double against Wisconsin today was ridiculous and was a very “NBA” game.

I keep seeing him mocked in the second round, and I can’t even conceive of that.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Cade is a gamer, but you have to be at least a little concerned about his ability to get by guys.

[Kukoc-Lauri]

I want Terrence Clarke in early second round. Or Tevion Kinsey. Players in T.Ross/Monk mode who could be dangerous if everything pans out for them. Hupkorti as center also. If some blue chip prospect tear acl or have season ending injury gamble on upside Porter/Bol what Ak used to do in Denver.

[Wingy]

Cade is a gamer, but you have to be at least a little concerned about his ability to get by guys.

Haven't seen anything beyond highlights, but that's a pretty damning observation. I mean, this is college competition after all.

A seriously ugly stat line today. 5-22 from the field...2 assists...6 turnovers. At least his team got the W against a highly ranked team.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Cade is a gamer, but you have to be at least a little concerned about his ability to get by guys.

Haven't seen anything beyond highlights, but that's a pretty damning observation. I mean, this is college competition after all.

A seriously ugly stat line today. 5-22 from the field...2 assists...6 turnovers. At least his team got the W against a highly ranked team.

There were a few times in this game when a big switched onto him and he wasn’t able to create separation. Troubling.

But yeah, he’s a winner. He makes the right play over and over on both sides of the floor until the other team succumbs. He isn’t an elite athlete or a Luka-like magician though, making super high upside (~top 10 player) hard to see.

I’d love to hear how folks who think he’s the no-brainer #1 read today’s game and his conference play overall.

[Brothaman33]

I’m not going to be at all surprised if Ayo Dosumnu ends up a top 20 pick. With every passing week, he shows more and more. His triple double against Wisconsin today was ridiculous and was a very “NBA” game.

I keep seeing him mocked in the second round, and I can’t even conceive of that.

I think you're right and I'd love to see it. He is going to go down as one of the best to ever play there.

He did have a triple double...but it did come with 7 turnovers. To me he still looks like an excellent backup PG in the NBA. Great IQ, plays within himself, terrific on the break going down hill, and he has been very efficient as well.

The biggest knock I could see from NBA scouts is overall athleticism. He is just an average leaper, good but not elite speed and lateral quickness. Although the percentage looks good, there still are some questions about his 3 ball form and consistency. Needs to tighten up the handle a bit, but he will make up for some of these things because he is a terrific kid, says all the right things and has taken on and done a great job in leadership role this year.

As a huge Illini fan I couldn't be more pleased to watch him develop and succeed the way he is. He'll be top 5 for Player Of The Year and I see him going anywhere from 20-30 in the first round, and the fan in me hopes he gets even higher.

[Chi town]

Keon with 27 in his breakout game. Springer starting to resemble Brogdon.

Watch on YouTube

[TheFinishSniper]

There were a few times in this game when a big switched onto him and he wasn’t able to create separation. Troubling.

But yeah, he’s a winner. He makes the right play over and over on both sides of the floor until the other team succumbs. He isn’t an elite athlete or a Luka-like magician though, making super high upside (~top 10 player) hard to see.

I’d love to hear how folks who think he’s the no-brainer #1 read today’s game and his conference play overall.

With guys like this you hope putting them into PnR situation with playing in NBA where floor is more spaced will help those deficiency. I aint watching college ball at all so I can't say. But guys who struggled in college creating dont usually struggle creating in NBA.

[DuckIII]

I’m not going to be at all surprised if Ayo Dosumnu ends up a top 20 pick. With every passing week, he shows more and more. His triple double against Wisconsin today was ridiculous and was a very “NBA” game.

I keep seeing him mocked in the second round, and I can’t even conceive of that.

I think you're right and I'd love to see it. He is going to go down as one of the best to ever play there.

He did have a triple double...but it did come with 7 turnovers. To me he still looks like an excellent backup PG in the NBA. Great IQ, plays within himself, terrific on the break going down hill, and he has been very efficient as well.

The biggest knock I could see from NBA scouts is overall athleticism. He is just an average leaper, good but not elite speed and lateral quickness. Although the percentage looks good, there still are some questions about his 3 ball form and consistency. Needs to tighten up the handle a bit, but he will make up for some of these things because he is a terrific kid, says all the right things and has taken on and done a great job in leadership role this year.

As a huge Illini fan I couldn't be more pleased to watch him develop and succeed the way he is. He'll be top 5 for Player Of The Year and I see him going anywhere from 20-30 in the first round, and the fan in me hopes he gets even higher.

The two things that have really jumped out at me as the season goes on are his vision and his ability to create shots in half court sets in multiple ways. He fits the mold more now of a multi-positional player, which is pretty clearly where the NBA is heading.

He’s always had great size and an open court scoring game, but these other things, to me, push him into the 20th pick neighborhood. I think by the time the draft arrives he‘ll be much more valued than he is now. I think scouting services and draft sites are way behind the curve on this guy.

[sco]

If we are able to trade for a late 1st, I would love to nab Franz Wagner from Michigan. He looks like a legit 2-way guy with ball handling, passing, 3pt game and good length.

[Pax for Prez]

If we are able to trade for a late 1st, I would love to nab Franz Wagner from Michigan. He looks like a legit 2-way guy with ball handling, passing, 3pt game and good length.

I see Franz Wagner draft range from # 14 - 22.

[sco]

If we are able to trade for a late 1st, I would love to nab Franz Wagner from Michigan. He looks like a legit 2-way guy with ball handling, passing, 3pt game and good length.

I see Franz Wagner draft range from # 14 - 22.

Saw him on draft.net at 33. I also love Livers.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

There were a few times in this game when a big switched onto him and he wasn’t able to create separation. Troubling.

But yeah, he’s a winner. He makes the right play over and over on both sides of the floor until the other team succumbs. He isn’t an elite athlete or a Luka-like magician though, making super high upside (~top 10 player) hard to see.

I’d love to hear how folks who think he’s the no-brainer #1 read today’s game and his conference play overall.

With guys like this you hope putting them into PnR situation with playing in NBA where floor is more spaced will help those deficiency. I aint watching college ball at all so I can't say. But guys who struggled in college creating dont usually struggle creating in NBA.

"He'll do better with NBA spacing" has become a draft cliche. It's true of some guys, not true of lots of others. In Cade's case, he sometimes struggles when he comes cleanly off the pick and is 1-v-1 with a big defender, which means spacing isn't the whole problem.

It isn't fatal. Just something to watch re: this year's class but especially in the context of previous #1s. Some still argue that Cade's as obvious a first pick as Luka and Zion, which I'd say is indefensible at this point.

[Pax for Prez]

If we are able to trade for a late 1st, I would love to nab Franz Wagner from Michigan. He looks like a legit 2-way guy with ball handling, passing, 3pt game and good length.

I see Franz Wagner draft range from # 14 - 22.

Saw him on draft.net at 33. I also love Livers.

Espn best players at #20
Tankathon at #12
Bleacher Report mock at # 14

[TheSuzerain]

There were a few times in this game when a big switched onto him and he wasn’t able to create separation. Troubling.

But yeah, he’s a winner. He makes the right play over and over on both sides of the floor until the other team succumbs. He isn’t an elite athlete or a Luka-like magician though, making super high upside (~top 10 player) hard to see.

I’d love to hear how folks who think he’s the no-brainer #1 read today’s game and his conference play overall.

With guys like this you hope putting them into PnR situation with playing in NBA where floor is more spaced will help those deficiency. I aint watching college ball at all so I can't say. But guys who struggled in college creating dont usually struggle creating in NBA.

"He'll do better with NBA spacing" has become a draft cliche. It's true of some guys, not true of lots of others. In Cade's case, he sometimes struggles when he comes cleanly off the pick and is 1-v-1 with a big defender, which means spacing isn't the whole problem.

It isn't fatal. Just something to watch re: this year's class but especially in the context of previous #1s. Some still argue that Cade's as obvious a first pick as Luka and Zion, which I'd say is indefensible at this point.

Luka went 3rd

[MrSparkle]

First/early/uneducated impression, Suggs looks like the draft #1 to me, but I need to watch more Cade. I was luka-warm on Luka on first impression too, until I started seeing how much he could successfully shoulder.

Also Mobley looks like a coordinated beast, although I’m on red alert with C prospects, particularly with very light frames.

[Pax for Prez]

First/early/uneducated impression, Suggs looks like the draft #1 to me, but I need to watch more Cade. I was luka-warm on Luka on first impression too, until I started seeing how much he could successfully shoulder.

Also Mobley looks like a coordinated beast, although I’m on red alert with C prospects, particularly with very light frames.

Also concerned on his frame. I also prefer players who handle the ball, compared to players that need someone to get them the ball.

[Kukoc-Lauri]

If we are going for home run pick Jaylen Green is choice. That if Lavine is traded and Minny pick for Bulls became Jalen Johnson or Scottie Barnes. Those kind of bold moves put Memphis from Conley and Marc Gasol to Morant and Jackson in just couple years.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

With guys like this you hope putting them into PnR situation with playing in NBA where floor is more spaced will help those deficiency. I aint watching college ball at all so I can't say. But guys who struggled in college creating dont usually struggle creating in NBA.

"He'll do better with NBA spacing" has become a draft cliche. It's true of some guys, not true of lots of others. In Cade's case, he sometimes struggles when he comes cleanly off the pick and is 1-v-1 with a big defender, which means spacing isn't the whole problem.

It isn't fatal. Just something to watch re: this year's class but especially in the context of previous #1s. Some still argue that Cade's as obvious a first pick as Luka and Zion, which I'd say is indefensible at this point.

Luka went 3rd

Ha, fair. Previous ‘best in class’ types I should say. To me Luka was obviously who should’ve gone #1 in 2018 and was a substantially better prospect than Cade.