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2025 Draft prospects - thread 2

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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#361 » by Muzbar » Sat Apr 19, 2025 7:21 am

jump wrote:If Dallas loses tonight, why would they move ahead of Bulls for a better pick? Same record, they advanced further in the plan-in, and the beat the Bulls twice.

Your question isn't confusing.

Both the Bulls and Mavs are 11th in the lottery, their will be a tie breaker coin flip to decide who picks first and that team will get an extra combination in the lottery.

I don't think wins/loses matter when it comes to the lottery l, just regular season standings (although I could be wrong on this point).
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#362 » by WesPeace » Sat Apr 19, 2025 9:59 am

We gotta snatch one of better wing defenders in draft, first target Colin Murray Boyles, next Noah Penda, Carter Bryant.. they can all play with Matas, switchable wings.

CMB at #11-12 should be realistic. Then trade Vucevic with POR pick if needed and get starting good defensive C. Rethink good and hard about Collins and Smith, keep both or trade one for 2nd rounder.. both can play PF and C. But Billy doesnt think high of Smith it seems...
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#363 » by boozapalooza » Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:45 pm

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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#364 » by Chi town » Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:38 pm

WesPeace wrote:We gotta snatch one of better wing defenders in draft, first target Colin Murray Boyles, next Noah Penda, Carter Bryant.. they can all play with Matas, switchable wings.

CMB at #11-12 should be realistic. Then trade Vucevic with POR pick if needed and get starting good defensive C. Rethink good and hard about Collins and Smith, keep both or trade one for 2nd rounder.. both can play PF and C. But Billy doesnt think high of Smith it seems...


I’m fine taking Rocco with our 2nd round pick. Giddey would bring out the best in him as a fellow Aussie. They have played together before.

I’d prefer we trade up from our 2nd rounder to end of first to nab a better player.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#365 » by sco » Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:47 pm

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Saw his name on mocks...never really focused on him, but 3-D looks like what we need.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#366 » by WesPeace » Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:29 pm

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WesPeace wrote:We gotta snatch one of better wing defenders in draft, first target Colin Murray Boyles, next Noah Penda, Carter Bryant.. they can all play with Matas, switchable wings.

CMB at #11-12 should be realistic. Then trade Vucevic with POR pick if needed and get starting good defensive C. Rethink good and hard about Collins and Smith, keep both or trade one for 2nd rounder.. both can play PF and C. But Billy doesnt think high of Smith it seems...


I’m fine taking Rocco with our 2nd round pick. Giddey would bring out the best in him as a fellow Aussie. They have played together before.

I’d prefer we trade up from our 2nd rounder to end of first to nab a better player.


I dont know about Zikarsky.. he doesnt strike me as potential NBA player, also his defense aint that good for 7'3 center. With some of the Giddey, Ball and Jones lobs he could dunk few points here and there, just because of big height and reach.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#367 » by Muzbar » Sat Apr 19, 2025 9:08 pm

With the Heat making the playoffs, they send their FRP to the Thunder, if the Bulls stay at 11/12 after the lottery, an option could be to trade back.

The Thunder have the 15th and 23rd/24th/25th (dependant on tie breakers) in the draft, or you could acquire the 15th and one of their many future picks.

These are options the Bulls should look into, IMO.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#368 » by Chi town » Sat Apr 19, 2025 9:35 pm

Muzbar wrote:With the Heat making the playoffs, they send their FRP to the Thunder, if the Bulls stay at 11/12 after the lottery, an option could be to trade back.

The Thunder have the 15th and 23rd/24th/25th (dependant on tie breakers) in the draft, or you could acquire the 15th and one of their many future picks.

These are options the Bulls should look into, IMO.


A late 1st should be cheap with BKN and OKC having so many.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#369 » by Jcool0 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:27 am

Muzbar wrote:With the Heat making the playoffs, they send their FRP to the Thunder, if the Bulls stay at 11/12 after the lottery, an option could be to trade back.

The Thunder have the 15th and 23rd/24th/25th (dependant on tie breakers) in the draft, or you could acquire the 15th and one of their many future picks.

These are options the Bulls should look into, IMO.


Why would the Bulls want a late 1st?
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#370 » by sco » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:00 am

Chi town wrote:
Muzbar wrote:With the Heat making the playoffs, they send their FRP to the Thunder, if the Bulls stay at 11/12 after the lottery, an option could be to trade back.

The Thunder have the 15th and 23rd/24th/25th (dependant on tie breakers) in the draft, or you could acquire the 15th and one of their many future picks.

These are options the Bulls should look into, IMO.


A late 1st should be cheap with BKN and OKC having so many.

If I had to choose, I'd try to keep Jones over a 2nd 1st. Our problem will be roster spots, if we have a way to rid ourselves of guys, I'd be ok. Buyout Carter and trade Ayo for a late 1st?
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#371 » by Chi town » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:41 am

https://youtu.be/7UR5h-KODjQ?si=wMpRZjj4goUQHWi0

Noa is my guy at 11.

He is Buz 2.0.

That length will play much like Buz.
He’s a better defender. Elite anticipation and IQ.
Plays hard and flies up and down the court.

Noa would be electric with Buz and Giddey running the show. Great lob threat like Buz and a very similar handle and euro step movements with change of pace. Exceptional cutter and passer.

I think we could have a really good defense with Noa and Buz together. Tons of blocks. Steals and shot clock violations. Lots of easy dunks.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#372 » by Chi town » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:49 am

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Post#373 » by Donkedave » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:57 am

Chi town wrote:https://youtu.be/7UR5h-KODjQ?si=wMpRZjj4goUQHWi0

Noa is my guy at 11.

He is Buz 2.0.

That length will play much like Buz.
He’s a better defender. Elite anticipation and IQ.
Plays hard and flies up and down the court.

Noa would be electric with Buz and Giddey running the show. Great lob threat like Buz and a very similar handle and euro step movements with change of pace. Exceptional cutter and passer.

I think we could have a really good defense with Noa and Buz together. Tons of blocks. Steals and shot clock violations. Lots of easy dunks.


Welcome to the club, I also think he’d be great at SF or PF switching.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#374 » by Muzbar » Sun Apr 20, 2025 3:45 am

Jcool0 wrote:
Muzbar wrote:With the Heat making the playoffs, they send their FRP to the Thunder, if the Bulls stay at 11/12 after the lottery, an option could be to trade back.

The Thunder have the 15th and 23rd/24th/25th (dependant on tie breakers) in the draft, or you could acquire the 15th and one of their many future picks.

These are options the Bulls should look into, IMO.


Why would the Bulls want a late 1st?

To acquire a 2nd prospect they may have interest in?

I also wrote that instead of the late FRP you could change that to a future FRP instead. But I guess you skimmed over that part.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#375 » by Donkedave » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:13 am

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Chi town wrote:
Muzbar wrote:With the Heat making the playoffs, they send their FRP to the Thunder, if the Bulls stay at 11/12 after the lottery, an option could be to trade back.

The Thunder have the 15th and 23rd/24th/25th (dependant on tie breakers) in the draft, or you could acquire the 15th and one of their many future picks.

These are options the Bulls should look into, IMO.


A late 1st should be cheap with BKN and OKC having so many.

If I had to choose, I'd try to keep Jones over a 2nd 1st. Our problem will be roster spots, if we have a way to rid ourselves of guys, I'd be ok. Buyout Carter and trade Ayo for a late 1st?


Can always try move 2 for 1 also. I’m sure there a few teams that would take Ayo/carter combo or if lucky a Vuch/carter combo.

Rather have another 18/19 yo with potential in a “rebuild” then the guys we have on the bench that have had a chance.(besides williams because he’s on a **** contract)
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#376 » by WesPeace » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:50 am

Chi town wrote:https://youtu.be/7UR5h-KODjQ?si=wMpRZjj4goUQHWi0

Noa is my guy at 11.

He is Buz 2.0.

That length will play much like Buz.
He’s a better defender. Elite anticipation and IQ.
Plays hard and flies up and down the court.

Noa would be electric with Buz and Giddey running the show. Great lob threat like Buz and a very similar handle and euro step movements with change of pace. Exceptional cutter and passer.

I think we could have a really good defense with Noa and Buz together. Tons of blocks. Steals and shot clock violations. Lots of easy dunks.


Yep, I agree.. two big switchable wings on SF/PF!
Noa is 6'9 I think at the moment (205-206cm)..

CMB, Essengue two my favourites in that 11-13# ranges.. for late 1st rounder (if Bulls make a trade) or 2nd rounder Beringer, C.Bryant and Penda my favourites.. all about size and Defense at this draft for me
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#377 » by TheSuzerain » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:12 pm

We'll have to see with measurements, but Essengue doesn't really grab me. Looks skinny in a bad way and can't play the 3.

Carter Bryant a better prospect I think.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#378 » by Rose2Boozer » Sun Apr 20, 2025 8:05 pm

Chi town wrote:https://youtu.be/7UR5h-KODjQ?si=wMpRZjj4goUQHWi0

Noa is my guy at 11.

He is Buz 2.0.

That length will play much like Buz.
He’s a better defender. Elite anticipation and IQ.
Plays hard and flies up and down the court.

Noa would be electric with Buz and Giddey running the show. Great lob threat like Buz and a very similar handle and euro step movements with change of pace. Exceptional cutter and passer.

I think we could have a really good defense with Noa and Buz together. Tons of blocks. Steals and shot clock violations. Lots of easy dunks.


When I watched Noa Essengue, I came away impressed with the passing and playmaking skills of Ben Saraf. I don't like Essengue, he's too similar to guys we have on the roster. Ideally, Buzelis would be paired with a forward that's a better version of Huerter.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#379 » by Chi town » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:15 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:We'll have to see with measurements, but Essengue doesn't really grab me. Looks skinny in a bad way and can't play the 3.

Carter Bryant a better prospect I think.


What makes you think he can’t play the 3?
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#380 » by Rose2Boozer » Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:25 am

2025 Lottery Mock

1. Jazz: Cooper Flagg
2. Wizards: Dylan Harper
3. Hornets: Tre Johnson
4. Pelicans: VJ Edgecombe
5. Sixers: Ace Bailey
6. Nets: Jeremiah Fears
7. Raptors: Khaman Maluach
8. Spurs: Derik Queen
9. Rockets: Kasparas Jakucionis
10. Blazers: Kon Knueppel
11. Mavericks: Egor Demin
12. Bulls: Ben Saraf
13. Hawks: Asa Newell
14. Spurs: Noa Essengue
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