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Re: 2025 Free Agency News/Rumors 

Post#361 » by Salo23 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:13 am

nomorezorro wrote:mathurin for coby doesn't even make sense as an upside play. sure, mathurin is a couple of years younger, but that's offset by the fact that he's, yknow, worse. coby's post-deadline run might be a mirage, but it was fringe all star level. i'd take a 25 year old who did that over a 23 year old who's capable of putting together a great game every now and then.

it also doesn't work as a "spin a guy off for assets before his contract is up" move because mathurin also has to get paid after this year


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Post#362 » by Red Larrivee » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:15 am

nomorezorro wrote:mathurin for coby doesn't even make sense as an upside play. sure, mathurin is a couple of years younger, but that's offset by the fact that he's, yknow, worse. coby's post-deadline run might be a mirage, but it was fringe all star level. i'd take a 25 year old who did that over a 23 year old who's capable of putting together a great game every now and then.

it also doesn't work as a "spin a guy off for assets before his contract is up" move because mathurin also has to get paid after this year


I don't think it's a credible rumor, but I think this part is important simply because Mathurin would be restricted and Coby will be unrestricted. So, the Bulls would have a lot more control over what happens.

Other than that, the Bulls would be taking on a lot more risk and I can't see Indiana giving up notable draft capital for a rental. If Ayo is getting moved, it seems like a lock that Coby will be back.
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Post#363 » by Muzbar » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:16 am

nomorezorro wrote:mathurin for coby doesn't even make sense as an upside play. sure, mathurin is a couple of years younger, but that's offset by the fact that he's, yknow, worse. coby's post-deadline run might be a mirage, but it was fringe all star level. i'd take a 25 year old who did that over a 23 year old who's capable of putting together a great game every now and then.

it also doesn't work as a "spin a guy off for assets before his contract is up" move because mathurin also has to get paid after this year

The same could have been said about Coby a few years ago. Players grow (for the most part).

Either way. It was just me throwing speculation out there with the rumours they may look to offload BM and that they're potentially interested in Coby.

It'll never happen.
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Post#364 » by Dan Z » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:20 am

Kennard to the Hawks. One year $11 million.
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Post#365 » by Infinity2152 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:22 am

Pacers are the absolute last team in the league I would trade White to. Too much potential of him killing us in our division for years. The return would have to be massive, way more than they would give.
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Post#366 » by kulaz3000 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:37 am

Dan Z wrote:Kennard to the Hawks. One year $11 million.


The Hawks have clearly seen the landscape of the East are just going for it this year, and good for them!! Not sure it's going to work out for them, but I actually would like to see the East to have more stronger teams.
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Post#367 » by kulaz3000 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:39 am

Infinity2152 wrote:Pacers are the absolute last team in the league I would trade White to. Too much potential of him killing us in our division for years. The return would have to be massive, way more than they would give.


I wouldn't go as far as saying that the Pacers would be the last team to trade White to, but I definitely wouldn't trade him to the Pacers unless it was a clear overpay, I agree with you there. It's not like we are competing any time soon, so who cares if he is traded within the same conference, under condition that they provide a haul!
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Post#368 » by Infinity2152 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:45 am

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Infinity2152 wrote:Pacers are the absolute last team in the league I would trade White to. Too much potential of him killing us in our division for years. The return would have to be massive, way more than they would give.


I wouldn't go as far as saying that the Pacers would be the last team to trade White to, but I definitely wouldn't trade him to the Pacers unless it was a clear overpay, I agree with you there. It's not like we are competing any time soon, so who cares if he is traded within the same conference, under condition that they provide a haul!


I'm optimistic we'll be good by two years, which would still be in Coby's window. Indy's team is young. 28 other teams in the league, he has to go somewhere I don't see him 4 times a year and go against us in the playoffs the next 5 years.
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Post#369 » by ScrantonBulls » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:55 am

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Infinity2152 wrote:Pacers are the absolute last team in the league I would trade White to. Too much potential of him killing us in our division for years. The return would have to be massive, way more than they would give.


I wouldn't go as far as saying that the Pacers would be the last team to trade White to, but I definitely wouldn't trade him to the Pacers unless it was a clear overpay, I agree with you there. It's not like we are competing any time soon, so who cares if he is traded within the same conference, under condition that they provide a haul!


I'm optimistic we'll be good by two years, which would still be in Coby's window. Indy's team is young. 28 other teams in the league, he has to go somewhere I don't see him 4 times a year and go against us in the playoffs the next 5 years.

Coby won't be the reason any team is "killing" another fan. Trade him to whoever gives you the best deal. It's that simple.
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Post#370 » by Muzbar » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:07 am

GTJ back to the Bucks.

2/7.5m (PO)

Trendon Watford to the Sixers

2/5.3m.
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Post#371 » by jordanwilliams6 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:09 am

Muzbar wrote:GTJ back to the Bucks.

2/7.5m (PO)

Trendon Watford to the Sixers

2/5.3m.

Watford is a steal for the Sixers. I really like his game.
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Post#372 » by boozapalooza » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:09 am

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Sidery’s sources are whack at times but I believe this. Coby avged 27ppg over the final 20 games, hes only 25, great contract for the next season. Hes our best player and may be the best guard available on the trade market. Any deal for him requires a haul. No 1 for 1 BS, Kuminga S&T, etc.

If the offers dont come in, I’d be fine playing it out and letting him earn his 40M everyone throws around. Hand him the keys post Zach and if we win games and if he can keep up his March/April play averaging 25ppg, he can have it.
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Post#373 » by Infinity2152 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:09 am

ScrantonBulls wrote:
Infinity2152 wrote:
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I wouldn't go as far as saying that the Pacers would be the last team to trade White to, but I definitely wouldn't trade him to the Pacers unless it was a clear overpay, I agree with you there. It's not like we are competing any time soon, so who cares if he is traded within the same conference, under condition that they provide a haul!


I'm optimistic we'll be good by two years, which would still be in Coby's window. Indy's team is young. 28 other teams in the league, he has to go somewhere I don't see him 4 times a year and go against us in the playoffs the next 5 years.

Coby won't be the reason any team is "killing" another fan. Trade him to whoever gives you the best deal. It's that simple.


Hey you do you. Again, there are 28 other teams in the league. If Indy is willing to give me good value for Coby, the odds are good someone else will too. If Coby's putting up 24-26 pts a night against us and 40's on occasion including the playoffs for the next 4-8 years, that's killing us enough for me to not want it. Hell, I still hate it when Butler, Gafford and Lauri kill us. Just like I'm sure Bucks fans were sick seeing Holiday on the Celtics. Pacers were just in the Finals, Coby might help them win a championship.

I think he's up to 22-24 pts/gm next season without the added incentive of going against the team that traded him instead of paying him.
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Post#374 » by MGB8 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:13 am

Where do folks think Ayo s going? Ayo for Landale works financially, but Jock I 29, which isn’t the direction AKME has been tracking.
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Post#375 » by ScrantonBulls » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:14 am

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I'm optimistic we'll be good by two years, which would still be in Coby's window. Indy's team is young. 28 other teams in the league, he has to go somewhere I don't see him 4 times a year and go against us in the playoffs the next 5 years.

Coby won't be the reason any team is "killing" another fan. Trade him to whoever gives you the best deal. It's that simple.


Hey you do you. Again, there are 28 other teams in the league. If Indy is willing to give me good value for Coby, the odds are good someone else will too. If Coby's putting up 24-26 pts a night against us and 40's on occasion including the playoffs for the next 4-8 years, that's killing us enough for me to not want it.

I think he's up to 22-24 pts/gm next season without the added incentive of going against the team that traded him instead of paying him.

Coby averaged 20.4 ppg this season with a 104 TS%+. Maybe he can become a 24-26 ppg scorer? I don't see it without sacrificing that above average efficiency though. That's a big leap.

The Bulls just need to get better. I don't think Coby is the type of player you have to worry about killing your team. Whoever gives you the best package, go for it. IMO.
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Post#376 » by Infinity2152 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:24 am

Coby averaged 20.4 pts/gm with Zach Lavine on the team half the season in the starting SG role. His usage was 24, I expect that to go up as the lead scorer. I see him as a 22-24 pt scorer as lead scorer, but former Bulls seems to ball out against the Bulls, at least it seems that way to me. Pushes that 22-24 average up a couple of points at least.

Why would Indy, a team that just made the Finals with their current team and down their starting PG for probably the whole season, be the best offer we could find? I'm not saying if they offer Haliburton don't do it, but any relatively equal offer from a West Coast team, or East Coast team not in my division, I'm taking first. I wouldn't be the first person who doesn't think it's a great idea to send talented 25 year olds to a better team in the same division, I don't think.
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Post#377 » by WesPeace » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:40 am

Suns signed 1yr deal with 30yrs old small forward Nigel Hayes-Davis who was finals MVP of Euroleague champions Fenerbahce. Also was MVP of Turkish cup. Interesting low money signing..
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Post#378 » by GuardianEnzo » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:52 am

I like Mathurin as a concept, and getting him would mean Coby is probably gonezo. But not as a straight-up swap - that would be foolish. If that's the trade there has to be more coming from Indy, but I was thinking of two separate deals.

The bottom line is you have to decide now if you think Coby is a top 3 piece on a title contender. If not it makes sense to deal him now, because if he has a repeat season he's getting something close to a max deal.
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Post#379 » by Muzbar » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:55 am

I fully expect Giddey’s deal to be the last transaction of the offseason for the Bulls.
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Post#380 » by Chi town » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:01 am

You onlybtrade Coby if you get a haul. Significant overpay.

If he earns his money you pay him.

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