Ben wrote:A person's academic/ intellectual bona fides are challenged, and the totality of the person's response is to cite Wikipedia. Priceless.
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cool...essentially 3 posts in a row from a "senior mod," no less, directly about me, personally. basically attacking my intelligence and education. Cool! Thanks bro. I see where this is is going. You clearly are not interested in the actual topic being discussed and went almost directly to personal attacks which of course are cheered on by the peanut gallery of 3. Which is why i didn't even want to get involved in this thread in the first place until it was 15 pages in...enen then i threw out some vague glittering gernalities but something said just stay away because no one wants to have a real conversation...no one wants to understand the other side...people just prefer the lines in the sand and to defend them basically until death...this was just about a guaranteed conclusion to any thread about foreign policy and the things that govern/influence it. And nation building and nation financing very much dictates the foreign policy of those nations. But whatever. I really didn't join this thread to change anyone's mind because i learned a long time ago what a waste of time that is. The information i put out there is for anyone who wants to follow that wormhole and if you dont so be. I accept and
respect your belief system as what works for you.
On an aside, let me state for the third time in this thread that I'm not interested in any conspiracies. Nor am I condemning the rothschilds nor Jews in any way shape or form. In my opinion
the rothshchild financial influence has been very responsible save maybe nathan rothchild who single handedly took over the bank of england during the napoleoinic wars under dubious manipulations. But, if some other family had that type of control and influence I doubt the world in general would be as peaceful or as harmonious as it is in many places on earth. The world still has some areas of conflict for sure...Silicon and diamonds in africa (which we dont hear much about these days) And Oil in the middle east. Those areas essentially still have an immense amount of consumable wealth in the land itself...predictably the areas are unstable. When it was discovered that there was gold abundant in the americas an immense amount of conflict ensued until the strong prevailed and the gold was gone. The oil in the middle east is no different than the gold of the americas, the silicon of africa...religion and religious identity was/is used all 3 times as a device to initial fight over then to control and subdue the masses once new powers took over and pillage the land of its natural recources. Religion remains a powerful tool to manipulate especially the less or barely uneducated...they will literally die for/over it...and defend their particular religion going to catastrphic lengths. This is also predictable. Wealthy and intelligent leaders have always and will continue to manipulate those that are moved by such.
Connecting the dots of all the foreign policy of all the monarchs, republics, and dictatorships around the globe over the past 200-300 years has directly led to basically all of the current state of affairs. And perhaps even going back to foreign policy of the previous 1000 years...Connecting all of these dots is nearly impossible to prove...all we can do is continuously attempt to connect the dots on who has benefitted?? Who has amassed these massive amounts of wealth? Who has benefitted the most from various wars, conflicts, gold rush's, oil grabs, silicon grabs.
Everyone needs financing. Everyone.
In 2007-2008 our banking system collapsed. Money was once again printed out of thin air to save it which made credit markets all but completely freeze up until 2013. In the link below you will see that Sir EL Rothschild sold his banking interrest in 2006...hmmm... a year before the banking markets began to take a slide and only a year prior to complete worldwide meltdown. Now you hadn't heard much from a Rothschild at all in nearly 20-30 years prior to the meltdown...but suddenly at the time of the collapse...there he was on his rothschild/rockefeller controlled media outlet NBC with this. Take note how he invested in Gold, oil and Government Bonds) in 2006 and 2007 leading up to the financial crisis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fw1RMKWypo Now you have to understand that when this man talks...when this man says something its a warning, its a promise, and its the truth so long as he wants it to be YOUR truth. If you paid attention to the financial markets at all...everything this man said, either happened or was going to happen(already happened) or needed to happen then did happen. When he says "he's not confident in the economy" and has "converted his wealth to Gold" that means his family's vast wealth is not available for you to borrow...not you...not home depot, not de beers, not your massive 401K pension fund (which many went under from 08-2011), and not even the government of the United States unless of course he's buying their bonds. Rothschild wealth is estimated at 200-500 trillion.
In other words...rothschilds essentially predicted and somewhat created this global meltdown as they took their own massive wealth out of the credit markets and turned it into the more stable Gold, oil, and bonds because they new and somewhat created the instability of what would follow in 2007-2008. It wasn't the first time...the Rothschild controlled banks shut down the credit markets in 1929 as well. So it should be interesting that the price of Gold was about $400 per ounce in 2006 and $1800 an ounce in 2013. Rothschild quintupled their money in this 4 year period where the entire world went into a huge financial depresson. It should be interesting that rothschilds invested their massive wealth out of the financial markets and to gold in 2006 ahead of the financial meltdown. It should be further interesting that the credit markets essentially opened back up in somewhat initially in 2012-2013 and now wide open in 2014 and 2015...because Rothschild money had become abundant again in the credit markets as they likely liquidated their gold holdings and gold began to slide back down to the $1000 per ounce it is today.
And the rothschild have layers and layers and layers upon more and more layers of cloak around them...you only mostly know about them what they want you to know. Corporate holdings on top of corporate holding on top of trusts, on top of corporate holding so you actually cant follow the money. That's by design. You cant find out who has controlling interest in any one bank any more and in the last 10-20 years most banks have gone so corporate that a board of directors now lies in in power and the rothschild still sat on top of these boards for many years up until the last 10-20 years. And its not about them anyway...
it about money. Money is always at the end of all these trails...all conflict...all wars...they are all financed by private banks...and those banks decide who gets financed and how much often determines the victor. The same bank often financing both sides of a conflict or war.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-owns-the-federal-reserve/10489there were "about 12," now about 3-4
private big wall street banks which "own
100% of the stock of the federal reserve." So private banks own the federal reserve...i'm sure all the "financial people" on this website know that but most people do not. The federal reserve is the bank of the united states. It is believed that the rothschild, along with JP Morgan, Rockefller, and mellon owned 100% of the original Federal Reserve with Rothschils owning the lions share. Rothschild were the only ones around who even had that kind of money back then so this is obvious. Noways, its almost impossible to directly trace because they dont list these things on the internet. Which is why i laugh and didn't respond to Tim's challenge. You cant find who owns what anymore...decades and decades of transfers and takeovers with all of the mellons, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, and Morgans all trying to hide their wealth as they were rothschilds agents. Only new money shows up on forbes list of billionaires...never old money. For example...we can trace BoA beause it wasn't rothschild money early on. If you search "who owns a bank" you will find a board of directors now sitting a top of each of these private banks, and private equity funds owning the largest parts. And all of these bank have split up so much its impossible to know where it all is going and where it all came from. Bank of NY(mellon) For example. The Mellon bank and family was consumed by citigroup in the past decade. Mellon bank, among other things, owned newsweek, and gulf oil which consumed standard oil(exxon) which is Chevron today, which once merged with Texaco is the third largest oil company in the entire world and the 16th largest of any company. It all started out as Rockefeller owned standard oil which was financed and majority owned via Rosthchild(financing) at its inception.
And again this is not a condemnation of the rothschilds (or jews at all as i have stated now for the 4th time). In fact I quite marvel at the work they've done with other financial institutions over the past 200 years. Ive tried to understand their motivations. Its amazing how efficient they were/are at influencing monarchs and republics via funding.
In the end, these are painstaking dots to connect and I'm not going to waste anymore time bantering back and forth about these things with 2 guys who genuinely are not interested in the topic on the internet that make a single click and think they solved the world's answers to all its problem with a single quote from a single page on the internet.
Anyway I'm just about done here on this sidetrack of the history of banking and modern banking and how it affects foreign policy of those it finances. i've put enough out there for those that are interested can click around for weeks on end...this was a personal research topic of mine for a book i'm writing and another book I helped edit which was by the way...was written by none other than a rothschild and should be published in the next year or so. So there's that.
