NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

NecessaryEvil · Post #381 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:12 pm

Doncic is going to be really good, if not great in the league

He comes from the Harden/Manu tribe of athletes

KevinPandawong · Post #382 » by **KevinPandawong** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:12 pm

blicka wrote:You guys really think a team that sold a 2nd round pick during a rebuild will trade up and take on 50 million to acquire a higher 1st round pick?

Not only that but move up to draft the most non athletic slowest player in the top 5 after the doug mcdermott debacle?

You really hope this will happen? lol

You seem really amped up against a very unlikely draft outcome. Why discourage discussion?

tiffac · Post #383 » by **tiffac** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:14 pm

Lauri_Bird wrote:If we somehow end up with Luka, I just hope he brings his mom with him to the USA...Shes gorgeous!!

https://www.instagram.com/mirjampoterbin

Trade up NOW!

Betta Bulleavit · Post #384 » by **Betta Bulleavit** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:14 pm

jump wrote:
blicka wrote:
JohnnyTapwater wrote:Pretty good article on former NBA/ current Euroleague players opinions on Doncic

https://uproxx.com/dimemag/luka-doncic-2018-nba-draft-scouting-report-euroleague-strengths-weaknesses/

Apparently No one on this forum cares what actual euroleague players think about doncic

Message board posters with 40k posts and no connection to pro basketball at all opinions matter more.

I don't know if you realize it yet, but all of your posts are confrontational, with an undertone that nobody but you really knows what's going on. That being said, I believe that reasonable posters here take it all into account when assessing Luka's potential -- the many many videos of Luka playing at high levels in real game situations, the videos were he just has an average performance, the reviews by real Euro players as in the above link. To me, he still has a kid's body but he has man-sized experience. When he goes on an NBA strengthening regimen, he's going to be a beast.

Yes, he will need to improve his quickness and his shot. But those seem relatively easy for him, given his age and the ability he's already shown. I still believe that if he were coming out of the NCAA with the same performance, posters here would be drooling over him.

Admittedly I haven't seen as much of Doncic as others have so I don't necessarily crave him as much as some do. My biggest question with him is how he will be able to adjust to the way that the NBA is going to inevitably adjust to him. Some of the things that I've seen him do look amazing in real time. But I also know that there are defenses that are going to be good enough to stop a lot of it. Will he be able to make the adjustment to the adjustments in my only thing. If he can, he will be fabulous. If not though...he can fade.

kodo · Post #385 » by **kodo** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:15 pm

Truebiscuit wrote:

Read on Twitter

Nice bit of info.

It's also worth noting that
- Donovan Mitchell is #120
- Brandon Ingram is #151
- Jayson Tatum is #153
- Jontay Porter is #18.

Lauri_Legend · Post #386 » by **Lauri_Legend** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:15 pm

mschmidt64 wrote:My dream scenario would be turning Portis, 22, and contract absorbtion into the 4th overall pick, and then walking away with Doncic at 4 and Bamba at 7.

Dunn
LaVine
Doncic
Markkanen
Bamba

Sick.

I highly doubt Memphis would get rid of the #4 without receiving a high draft pick unless we give up Lavine AND take back Parsons. Just for the sake of argument, let's see somehow we do have the #4 and #7...I think a more realistic selection will be Bamba at 4 and Young at 7 or MPJ at 4 and WCJ at 7. Doncic won't go past the Hawks

Don7 · Post #387 » by **Don7** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:15 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:Doncic is going to be really good, if not great in the league

He comes from the Harden/Manu tribe of athletes

Read on Twitter

PrimzyBulls81 · Post #388 » by **PrimzyBulls81** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:18 pm

mschmidt64 wrote:My dream scenario would be turning Portis, 22, and contract absorbtion into the 4th overall pick, and then walking away with Doncic at 4 and Bamba at 7.

Dunn
LaVine
Doncic
Markkanen
Bamba

Sick.

that would be my dream scenario too :nod:

mschmidt64 · Post #389 » by **mschmidt64** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:19 pm

Lauri_Legend wrote:
mschmidt64 wrote:My dream scenario would be turning Portis, 22, and contract absorbtion into the 4th overall pick, and then walking away with Doncic at 4 and Bamba at 7.

Dunn
LaVine
Doncic
Markkanen
Bamba

Sick.

I highly doubt Memphis would get rid of the #4 without receiving a high draft pick unless we give up Lavine AND take back Parsons. Just for the sake of argument, let's see somehow we do have the #4 and #7...I think a more realistic selection will be Bamba at 4 and Young at 7 or MPJ at 4 and WCJ at 7. Doncic won't go past the Hawks

Yeah, I know. Just saying, dream scenario.

thewraith · Post #390 » by **thewraith** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:20 pm

ATRAIN53 wrote:
thewraith wrote:
ATRAIN53 wrote:ATL has a tough choice.

This is their first lottery pick since Horford, 11 seasons ago.

They really have to pick between Trey and Luka, they need a name to kick start that franchise.
Either of these guys could have it. Anyone else they pick will just be a guy they develop. But these 2 are guys that come in to run the show. They need that. The fans want that.

Trey the fans know and would be a good choice to sell tix, but he's gonna need a yr or 2 to develop and build an NBA body.

Luka could be the franchise guy they need but the fans don't know him - and regardless of who picks Luka, they kid is not going to play next year very much. He's worn out from Euro league and every GM that watched Ben Simmons red shirt his freshman year in Philly will think the same for Luka. They will rest him and work on his transition to the NBA OFF the court.

I still can't belive the Suns hired his former Euro league coach and are going to pass on him. I think they take him, and the Ayton thing has been a smoke screen to see what value the top pick really is. Turns out no one wants it and that sucks for a team that has never had it and would trade it for a bonnafide super star for it if they could!

I can't wait, this should be a fun draft with a lot of trades and drama!
The redshirt with Luka makes no sense to me compared to Simmons. Simmons broke his hand and Luka that I know of doesn't have an injury to keep him out so why would they be red shirting him exactly? That's what I don't get.

No other draft prospects are playing organized basketball like he is still.
SL will be the first game action for 98% of draft picks since Mar - Luka just played 29 min 5 days ago against Baskonia Vitoria Gaste!

Ok but the Frank guy the Knicks picked last year was doing the same and he didn't miss next year. You need a better rationale than that my man for why there is going to be some redshirt year IMO.

Red Larrivee · Post #391 » by **Red Larrivee** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:20 pm

If Sacramento is really mulling Porter at 2 and Atlanta passes at 3, that presents an interesting scenario. The most likely outcome is Memphis running over anyone in sight to give Adam Silver the card for Doncic. But, if that pick is available you'd have to throw the house at Memphis.

Still hard to tell who's bluffing here. Sacramento may be trying to force someone to trade up for Porter.

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Ugly Duckling · Post #392 » by **Ugly Duckling** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:20 pm

Don7 wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:Doncic is going to be really good, if not great in the league

He comes from the Harden/Manu tribe of athletes

Read on Twitter

Dude this guy is going to be an offensive juggernaut. He's going to single handily break down defenses off the dribble and either creatively use the glass in an artistic manner or dish it out to someone exactly where they want it

blicka · Post #393 » by **blicka** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:21 pm

KevinPandawong wrote:
blicka wrote:You guys really think a team that sold a 2nd round pick during a rebuild will trade up and take on 50 million to acquire a higher 1st round pick?

Not only that but move up to draft the most non athletic slowest player in the top 5 after the doug mcdermott debacle?

You really hope this will happen? lol

You seem really amped up against a very unlikely draft outcome. Why discourage discussion?

You're trying too hard man. There's literally nothing "amped up" about what I asked

It's a legitimate question, it's not discouraging discussion it's a pipe dream that a bunch of fans hoping it happens from a fo that never does things like that.

Lauri_Legend · Post #394 » by **Lauri_Legend** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:21 pm

ESPN did a very nice piece on Luka today. It's a must watch

Watch on YouTube

NewEra21 · Post #395 » by **NewEra21** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:22 pm

Don7 wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:Doncic is going to be really good, if not great in the league

He comes from the Harden/Manu tribe of athletes

Read on Twitter

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thewraith · Post #396 » by **thewraith** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:24 pm

Lauri_Bird wrote:If we somehow end up with Luka, I just hope he brings his mom with him to the USA...Shes gorgeous!!

https://www.instagram.com/mirjampoterbin

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder was never a truer statement. If he gets drafted just bring your game.

NewEra21 · Post #397 » by **NewEra21** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:25 pm

blicka wrote:
KevinPandawong wrote:
blicka wrote:You guys really think a team that sold a 2nd round pick during a rebuild will trade up and take on 50 million to acquire a higher 1st round pick?

Not only that but move up to draft the most non athletic slowest player in the top 5 after the doug mcdermott debacle?

You really hope this will happen? lol

You seem really amped up against a very unlikely draft outcome. Why discourage discussion?

You're trying too hard man. There's literally nothing "amped up" about what I asked

It's a legitimate question, it's not discouraging discussion it's a pipe dream that a bunch of fans hoping it happens from a fo that never does things like that.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that they will, or has any inside info that they will. They're merely holding on to hope. As you said. Are people not allowed to express what they hope will happen?

kodo · Post #398 » by **kodo** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:26 pm

PrimzyBulls81 wrote:
mschmidt64 wrote:My dream scenario would be turning Portis, 22, and contract absorbtion into the 4th overall pick, and then walking away with Doncic at 4 and Bamba at 7.

Dunn
LaVine
Doncic
Markkanen
Bamba

Sick.

that would be my dream scenario too

Stein said the Grizzlies aren't trading #4 without getting a "high lottery" pick back.

The Grizz are said to be taking more calls than they're making, but staying in the high lottery is obviously crucial to Memphis

We can deal with them, but we're giving up #7 IMO.

TheHrvReport · Post #399 » by **TheHrvReport** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:26 pm

Chi town wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:
TheHrvReport wrote:Can't really base too much off of that. That list has a mix of both good and bad players in the NBA

Going to need you to point out the bad players?

Looks like a very good predictor to me.

Zeller and Noel???

Zeller, Noel, Russell - Just ok players= Smart, Lonz. Frankly, the fact that Zeller and Nerlens are top 7 is enough for me to disregard this list

NewEra21 · Post #400 » by **NewEra21** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:29 pm

kodo wrote:
PrimzyBulls81 wrote:
mschmidt64 wrote:My dream scenario would be turning Portis, 22, and contract absorbtion into the 4th overall pick, and then walking away with Doncic at 4 and Bamba at 7.

Dunn
LaVine
Doncic
Markkanen
Bamba

Sick.

that would be my dream scenario too

Stein said the Grizzlies aren't trading #4 without getting a "high lottery" pick back.

The Grizz are said to be taking more calls than they're making, but staying in the high lottery is obviously crucial to Memphis

We can deal with them, but we're giving up #7 IMO.

Yea i never saw a scenario where the Bulls end up with #4 and keep #7. But that quote makes it seem like the Bulls havent made a call because they have the best combination of a lottery pick and cap space to make it happen. And thats upsetting

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