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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#381 » by Susan » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:31 am

HAHA! Great job taking that ball away baby!
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#382 » by MeloRoseNoah » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:34 am

dougthonus wrote:
MeloRoseNoah wrote:I have went on extensive details on my previous posts about there isn't a single metrics that Trubisky beat on either Watson or Mahomes except that he's a clean cut white boy face for this franchise.


College stats simply don't project out QBs really well, so I don't think that is all that concerning really. I preferred the Bears take Watson but I don't follow college football enough to have a strong opinion and only wanted them to take Watson because I actually heard of him prior to draft day (which is also a stupid reason).

Lots and lots of people had Trubisky higher on their board than Watson/Mahomes.

But the entire scouting department is prejudiced against black QBs by assuming that both Mahomes and Watson are dumb QBs who can't read NFL defenses while Trubisky is this accurate high IQ QB who will can read NFL defenses and tear them apart. This is nothing but classic racism.


Is there any basis to this other than you just made it up? I mean if it sounds like just straight up baseless slander.


http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/patrick-mahomes?id=2558125
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/deshaun-watson?id=2558063
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/mitch-trubisky?id=2558008

I'm just going to list the white boy QB typical strengths for Trubisky:

STRENGTHS Adequate height with good muscular definition. Built to withstand physical challenges of the position. Calm field general. Very good pocket mobility. Can slide around circumference of the pocket without having to drop his eyes from their task. When he leaves the pocket, looks to challenge with his arm before defaulting to his feet. Always in ready-to-rip throwing posture. Delivery is crisp and efficient. Locates safeties and reads their intentions immediately after the snap. Quick through his progressions and will double back to targets if his protection allows him time. Pocket mechanics and throwing motion are solid. Tough and competitive. Shows courage and poise in the pocket. Throws passes from balanced platforms and rarely defaults to an off-balance throw unnecessarily. Has all the arm you need. NFL call sheets will be wide open with Trubisky at the helm. Can dial up deep field-side outs with accuracy. Ball comes humming out of his hand when he needs to spike his velocity. Arm talent to whip a catchable throw from difficult angles to targets outside the numbers. Makes the standard "pitch and catch" throws with consistent accuracy. Ball usually comes out on time. His 62.1 completion percentage on intermediate throws easily outpaces the top quarterbacks in this draft. Possesses get-away quickness to avoid sudden pressure from a-gap blitzers with the speed to damage the defensive cause once he leaves the pocket.

High summary. Trubisky strengths are the typical white boy captain intangibles:

1) Calm
2) Accurate
3) Attack defense with his arm instead of the dumb black athlete typical reliable on athletic feet
4) Can read defense

All of these strengths are lies. Feel free to peruse through the dumb black athlete typical scouting reports of Mahomes and Watson.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#383 » by Susan » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:38 am

MeloRoseNoah wrote:
dougthonus wrote:
MeloRoseNoah wrote:I have went on extensive details on my previous posts about there isn't a single metrics that Trubisky beat on either Watson or Mahomes except that he's a clean cut white boy face for this franchise.


College stats simply don't project out QBs really well, so I don't think that is all that concerning really. I preferred the Bears take Watson but I don't follow college football enough to have a strong opinion and only wanted them to take Watson because I actually heard of him prior to draft day (which is also a stupid reason).

Lots and lots of people had Trubisky higher on their board than Watson/Mahomes.

But the entire scouting department is prejudiced against black QBs by assuming that both Mahomes and Watson are dumb QBs who can't read NFL defenses while Trubisky is this accurate high IQ QB who will can read NFL defenses and tear them apart. This is nothing but classic racism.


Is there any basis to this other than you just made it up? I mean if it sounds like just straight up baseless slander.


http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/patrick-mahomes?id=2558125
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/deshaun-watson?id=2558063
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/mitch-trubisky?id=2558008

I'm just going to list the white boy QB typical strengths for Trubisky:

STRENGTHS Adequate height with good muscular definition. Built to withstand physical challenges of the position. Calm field general. Very good pocket mobility. Can slide around circumference of the pocket without having to drop his eyes from their task. When he leaves the pocket, looks to challenge with his arm before defaulting to his feet. Always in ready-to-rip throwing posture. Delivery is crisp and efficient. Locates safeties and reads their intentions immediately after the snap. Quick through his progressions and will double back to targets if his protection allows him time. Pocket mechanics and throwing motion are solid. Tough and competitive. Shows courage and poise in the pocket. Throws passes from balanced platforms and rarely defaults to an off-balance throw unnecessarily. Has all the arm you need. NFL call sheets will be wide open with Trubisky at the helm. Can dial up deep field-side outs with accuracy. Ball comes humming out of his hand when he needs to spike his velocity. Arm talent to whip a catchable throw from difficult angles to targets outside the numbers. Makes the standard "pitch and catch" throws with consistent accuracy. Ball usually comes out on time. His 62.1 completion percentage on intermediate throws easily outpaces the top quarterbacks in this draft. Possesses get-away quickness to avoid sudden pressure from a-gap blitzers with the speed to damage the defensive cause once he leaves the pocket.

High summary. Trubisky strengths are the typical white boy captain intangibles:

1) Calm
2) Accurate
3) Attack defense with his arm instead of the dumb black athlete typical reliable on athletic feet
4) Can read defense

All of these strengths are lies. Feel free to peruse through the dumb black athlete typical scouting reports of Mahomes and Watson.


That's the NFL.com scouting report. It has nothing to do with actual teams actual scouting reports.

You're reaching hard IMO.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#384 » by MeloRoseNoah » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:41 am

Susan wrote:
That's the NFL.com scouting report. It has nothing to do with actual teams actual scouting reports.

You're reaching hard IMO.




Ryan Pace's scouting report of Trubusty, Mr. 3-and-out.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#385 » by Susan » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:42 am

Goff sucks and is getting paid SO MUCH.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#386 » by Susan » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:44 am

MeloRoseNoah wrote:
Susan wrote:
That's the NFL.com scouting report. It has nothing to do with actual teams actual scouting reports.

You're reaching hard IMO.




Ryan Pace's scouting report of Trubusty, Mr. 3-and-out.


I'm watching the game, I'm not going to watch that **** just to argue with you.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#387 » by dougthonus » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:55 am

MeloRoseNoah wrote:http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/patrick-mahomes?id=2558125
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/deshaun-watson?id=2558063
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/mitch-trubisky?id=2558008

I'm just going to list the white boy QB typical strengths for Trubisky:

STRENGTHS Adequate height with good muscular definition. Built to withstand physical challenges of the position. Calm field general. Very good pocket mobility. Can slide around circumference of the pocket without having to drop his eyes from their task. When he leaves the pocket, looks to challenge with his arm before defaulting to his feet. Always in ready-to-rip throwing posture. Delivery is crisp and efficient. Locates safeties and reads their intentions immediately after the snap. Quick through his progressions and will double back to targets if his protection allows him time. Pocket mechanics and throwing motion are solid. Tough and competitive. Shows courage and poise in the pocket. Throws passes from balanced platforms and rarely defaults to an off-balance throw unnecessarily. Has all the arm you need. NFL call sheets will be wide open with Trubisky at the helm. Can dial up deep field-side outs with accuracy. Ball comes humming out of his hand when he needs to spike his velocity. Arm talent to whip a catchable throw from difficult angles to targets outside the numbers. Makes the standard "pitch and catch" throws with consistent accuracy. Ball usually comes out on time. His 62.1 completion percentage on intermediate throws easily outpaces the top quarterbacks in this draft. Possesses get-away quickness to avoid sudden pressure from a-gap blitzers with the speed to damage the defensive cause once he leaves the pocket.

High summary. Trubisky strengths are the typical white boy captain intangibles:

1) Calm
2) Accurate
3) Attack defense with his arm instead of the dumb black athlete typical reliable on athletic feet
4) Can read defense

All of these strengths are lies. Feel free to peruse through the dumb black athlete typical scouting reports of Mahomes and Watson.


Literally has absolutely nothing to do with the Bears or their decision makers.

I guess it does show that Lance Zierlein also had Trubisky ahead of the other two on his board though.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#388 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:56 am

Trubisky has been the best part of the offense so far against the Rams. Gabriel dropped 2 passes, the idiot kicker missed 2 fg, and the offensive line is an embarrassment
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#389 » by dougthonus » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:06 am

Man Bears should be up big this game, and instead are down 3.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#390 » by MeloRoseNoah » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:11 am

LOL Matt Nagy is deliberately sabotaging this team. Declining a running to the kicker penalty.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#391 » by GetBuLLish » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:21 am

Trubisky started out decent. Offensive line and dropped passes were killing us.

Now it’s time for Trubisky to start making bad throws.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#392 » by dice » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:33 am

MeloRoseNoah wrote:
Jeffster81 wrote:
MeloRoseNoah wrote:The African American bros, Patric Mahomes and Lamar Jackson, are revolutionizing the QB position while our GM Ryan Pace is still looking for a clean cut soldier white boy to be our face of the franchise.

It's time for Ryan Pace and the rest of the NFL to admit the closet racist culture among football owners and management.


Not sure if serious.

There has been many "black QB's" that have sucked as QBs. Akili Smith, Jamarcus Russell, Robert Griffin III, etc. IMO, this is not a race problem, it's a scouting problem (and a offensive system problem).


I have went on extensive details on my previous posts about there isn't a single metrics that Trubisky beat on either Watson or Mahomes except that he's a clean cut white boy face for this franchise.

and i pointed out right after you made that ignorant comment that it was not true. trubisky had a better combine score than either mahomes or watson. and his QB rating was about the same as both. he was rated highest almost across the board on pre-draft big boards. it sure as hell wasn't a ryan pace thing

i would never deny that there might be some lingering racism with regard to the QB position. but there has been no shortage of opportunity for black QBs in recent years, many of whom were drafted very highly and failed miserably

as for revolutionizing the QB position, what is lamar jackson doing that michael vick and steve young didn't do?

meanwhile, daniel jones, another "clean cut white boy," who was projected to go behind the far more accomplished dwayne haskins but was for some reason taken ahead of him, has done pretty well while haskins has looked like hot garbage

the best QB of all-time, tom brady, was obviously not highly sought after coming into the league. neither was drew brees. nor joe montana. nor aaron rodgers. nor brett favre. somehow they all over-achieved and became all-time greats despite their crippling whiteness
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#393 » by dice » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:38 am

dougthonus wrote:Man Bears should be up big this game, and instead are down 3.

or you could say that the rams have been trying real hard to keep the bears in it with bad penalties and a horrific interception
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#394 » by dice » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:40 am

MeloRoseNoah wrote:LOL Matt Nagy is deliberately sabotaging this team. Declining a running to the kicker penalty.

for the love of...

it wouldn't have been enough for the first down and they liked the result of the punt (48 yards, no return)

unless not going for it on 4th and short from your own 35 is "deliberate sabotage", your critique makes no sense
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#395 » by Red Larrivee » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:42 am

It's miserable watching this team.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#396 » by johnnyvann840 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:49 am

Red Larrivee wrote:It's miserable watching this team.


I don't know what's worse watching the Bears or the Bulls right now. This is just horrible. No joy in this at all. It's just one WTF? after another.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#397 » by Susan » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:50 am

Defense needs a stand here. The offense has done a decent job of moving the ball/keeping them off of the field.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#398 » by johnnyvann840 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:54 am

Susan wrote:Defense needs a stand here. The offense has done a decent job of moving the ball/keeping them off of the field.


The offense has been horrid though. With the gifts they were given in that 1st half, they should at least have a couple of FG's. I know Pineiro missed twice, but we can't run the ball at all against this Rams D. The Bears are getting dominated at the LOS on both sides of the ball. So frustrating. We need a few big plays from the O. We need an early TD in this 2nd half or this game is over. Some kind of spark.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#399 » by johnnyvann840 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:55 am

I think Nagy has been awful in this game. We are so predictable.
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Re: OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond 

Post#400 » by Susan » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:58 am

johnnyvann840 wrote:
Susan wrote:Defense needs a stand here. The offense has done a decent job of moving the ball/keeping them off of the field.


The offense has been horrid though. With the gifts they were given in that 1st half, they should at least have a couple of FG's. I know Pineiro missed twice, but we can't run the ball at all against this Rams D. The Bears are getting dominated at the LOS on both sides of the ball. So frustrating. We need a few big plays from the O. We need an early TD in this 2nd half or this game is over. Some kind of spark.


Outside of that big pass to Cupp, the Rams haven't really moved the ball.

3 & out right there. Good start.

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