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GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2

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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#381 » by dougthonus » Sun Mar 7, 2021 3:21 pm

DuckIII wrote:I’d also add that some of this “entitlement” may also stem from injuries to OPJ, Lauri and Hutch being AWOL. BD has limited options anyway. He may have made Willy “earn it” more or reduced his role had the roster been healthier.


Side note, every time you call him "Willy", I cringe.

I OPJ was healthy to start the season and Pat got the nod anyway. Obviously that didn't last long. If you were going to swap him out now, it would probably be Thad/Temple starting at the 3/4 given OPJ/Lauri's absences, but at the immediate moment, there's no reason to go against starting him and keeping some better balance off the bench.

To your point about starting but lesser touches vs bench but more touches, I agree. His current role has allowed him to defend the elite players in the league in virtually all of his minutes, so he is getting a lot of defensive exposure vs a lot of offensive exposure. I think that also clues you in to what type of player they think he will be (or at least initially) because if they viewed him as a really high upside offensive player (or at least someone ready to start making that leap right away) then they should be putting him position to get more exposure on offense.

The way they are developing him to me says they view him as a defense prospect first that isn't ready on offense but needs to grow defensively (more or less the opposite of White). Of course that doesn't mean anything necessarily about the long term view of him, but short term he's getting a lot more defensive education than offensive.
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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#382 » by DuckIII » Sun Mar 7, 2021 3:31 pm

Absolutely, Doug. And I call him Willy due to a lack of alternatives. I used to call him P Willy but Homosapien said he hated it. I must be permitted to shorten it to Willy. I’m not thumb-typing Williams every time and PAW is trash. :lol:
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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#383 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Sun Mar 7, 2021 3:50 pm

DuckIII wrote:Absolutely, Doug. And I call him Willy due to a lack of alternatives. I used to call him P Willy but Homosapien said he hated it. I must be permitted to shorten it to Willy. I’m not thumb-typing Williams every time and PAW is trash. :lol:


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Post#384 » by dougthonus » Sun Mar 7, 2021 4:03 pm

DuckIII wrote:Absolutely, Doug. And I call him Willy due to a lack of alternatives. I used to call him P Willy but Homosapien said he hated it. I must be permitted to shorten it to Willy. I’m not thumb-typing Williams every time and PAW is trash. :lol:


I mean you basically nicknamed him Penis, so I don't know what could be worse than that :p

I usually just go with Pat myself.
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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#385 » by coldfish » Sun Mar 7, 2021 4:08 pm

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coldfish wrote:Its funny that I had to go to page 3 to even find this thread.

Right now, Pat has a 10.3 PER. His scoring efficiency is actually down from the start of the year. Early on, his on/off type numbers weren't terrible but as the season has gone on they have actually got worse. He now has the worst net rating on the team. Out of 479 NBA players, he has the 460th best rpm.


The advanced stats from Basketball Reference disagree with you. There have only been two full months of play and he was better in Feb than Jan. He was -5.9 in January at 9.1/4.4/0.9 with a .544 TS% and +0.5 in February at 10.6/6.1/1.5 with a .551 TS%.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willipa01/splits/2021


His December (5 games) had a TS of 61.4%. Since that time, its steadily been going down from when I have checked it.

His Net Rating in March (2 games) is -33.2 which is why I saw his total going down.

Overall, my points are accurate except for one.
- As of this minute, he does have a 10.3 PER
- His scoring efficiency is actually down from the start of the year
- He does have the worst net rating on the team.
- Out of 479 NBA players, he does have the 460th best rpm.

My comment about his on/off numbers not being terrible to start the season is not accurate. They were pretty bad to start the year. I stand corrected on that.
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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#386 » by DuckIII » Sun Mar 7, 2021 5:28 pm

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DuckIII wrote:Absolutely, Doug. And I call him Willy due to a lack of alternatives. I used to call him P Willy but Homosapien said he hated it. I must be permitted to shorten it to Willy. I’m not thumb-typing Williams every time and PAW is trash. :lol:


I mean you basically nicknamed him Penis, so I don't know what could be worse than that :p

I usually just go with Pat myself.


Hmm. You may have a point. “Willy” is not part of my male genitalia vocabulary. But Pat reminds me of that SNL character. So I’m not sure what to do now. This is a real conundrum.
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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#387 » by CobyWhite0 » Sun Mar 7, 2021 5:44 pm

DuckIII wrote:
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DuckIII wrote:Absolutely, Doug. And I call him Willy due to a lack of alternatives. I used to call him P Willy but Homosapien said he hated it. I must be permitted to shorten it to Willy. I’m not thumb-typing Williams every time and PAW is trash. :lol:


I mean you basically nicknamed him Penis, so I don't know what could be worse than that :p

I usually just go with Pat myself.


Hmm. You may have a point. “Willy” is not part of my male genitalia vocabulary. But Pat reminds me of that SNL character. So I’m not sure what to do now. This is a real conundrum.


Yeah, it's not like Dick Motta or James Johnson or Kerry Wood - Willy just makes me think of Willy the wimp. And his Cadillac coffin.
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Post#388 » by dougthonus » Sun Mar 7, 2021 5:49 pm

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dougthonus wrote:
I mean you basically nicknamed him Penis, so I don't know what could be worse than that :p

I usually just go with Pat myself.


Hmm. You may have a point. “Willy” is not part of my male genitalia vocabulary. But Pat reminds me of that SNL character. So I’m not sure what to do now. This is a real conundrum.


Yeah, it's not like Dick Motta or James Johnson or Kerry Wood - Willy just makes me think of Willy the wimp. And his Cadillac coffin.


I think Willy is actually worse in terms or referring to a Penis than anyone's name, because you've changed his name to turn it into a penis joke.
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Post#389 » by HouseOfLight » Sun Mar 7, 2021 6:51 pm

It isn’t ‘paw’, it’s THE PAW, and that’s honestly the best nickname that King has ever coined. Fits the dude absolutely perfectly, his paws are ginormous

Willy? Seriously ?
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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#390 » by Mk0 » Sun Mar 7, 2021 9:05 pm

I go with PatWill most of the time

*People still use the term willy? I honestly hadn't heard that in like 30 years.
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Post#391 » by DuckIII » Sun Mar 7, 2021 10:30 pm

Okay, okay, I relent.
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Post#392 » by HomoSapien » Sun Mar 7, 2021 10:51 pm

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Post#393 » by bad knees » Sun Mar 7, 2021 11:02 pm

PWill is my go to at this point.
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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#394 » by Brybeck01 » Sun Mar 7, 2021 11:09 pm

PWill for me too.

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Post#395 » by fleet » Sun Mar 7, 2021 11:23 pm

HomoSapien wrote:CANCEL DUCK.

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Post#396 » by donaldtrump_00 » Sun Mar 7, 2021 11:27 pm

I like his game enough to wait for progress down the road.but the thing I'm looking at is aggressiveness and mistake prone behavior. It's alarming. Both can be groomed with hard work and a good teacher. I feel like in 3 years those problems can be corrected. And confidence to put the ball on the floor knowing it's a strength. Some bulls fans are to excited to early. I like to wait till I see it first. Lauri is in year 4 and everyone thought he was the franchise player so don't get to high to early. But he's definitely a nice player we have.
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Post#397 » by dougthonus » Sun Mar 7, 2021 11:31 pm

Mk0 wrote:I go with PatWill most of the time

*People still use the term willy? I honestly hadn't heard that in like 30 years.


I think that's what makes it worse for me, it's like a grandpa penis joke.
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Post#398 » by Shill » Sun Mar 7, 2021 11:35 pm

bad knees wrote:PWill is my go to at this point.



PW9, anyone?

Not really feelin' it, but I'm going with it for now.
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Post#399 » by FriedRise » Sun Mar 7, 2021 11:43 pm

P-Nice ain’t gonna stick, huh?
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Re: GO CRAZY PAT! - Patrick Williams thread p2 

Post#400 » by CobyWhite0 » Sun Mar 7, 2021 11:57 pm

dougthonus wrote:
CobyWhite0 wrote:
DuckIII wrote:
Hmm. You may have a point. “Willy” is not part of my male genitalia vocabulary. But Pat reminds me of that SNL character. So I’m not sure what to do now. This is a real conundrum.


Yeah, it's not like Dick Motta or James Johnson or Kerry Wood - Willy just makes me think of Willy the wimp. And his Cadillac coffin.


I think Willy is actually worse in terms or referring to a Penis than anyone's name, because you've changed his name to turn it into a penis joke.


No, I meant that like Duck, I've never heard of it referred to as a willy. DM and JJ and KW, obvious jokes in the making. But not willy for me, either.

Of course it's too late now, you guys already cancelled Duck so he'll probably never be back

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